A
Allen Drake
Wahahahaha...I meant to say THIS can be done but thanks for the Funday
Sunnies.
Wahahahaha...I meant to say THIS can be done but thanks for the Funday
Sunnies.
M
Mack A. Damia
.......and lead us not into Penn Station?
G
Gene E. Bloch
I realized that I forgot to say explicitly that I am in the USA, so:
I am in the USA.
C
Char Jackson
Deliver us from weevils.
M
Mack A. Damia
Lead on, O Kinky Turtle!
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Hallo be thy name.on Sun said:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"Everyone has always regarded any usage but his own as either barbarous or
pedantic." - Evelyn Waugh, quoted by Lynne Truss in "Eats, shoots & Leaves"
2003
J
John M Ward
[huge snip]
)
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country of
origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard to say
which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
Well, no-one's perfect
)As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country of
origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard to say
which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
J
John M Ward
We have Torchwood to do that...
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
I'm in England too, but we shouldn't be smug: just because it came fromJohn M Ward said:Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country of
origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard to say
which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
here, no reason to assume pronunciation - or grammar, or anything else -
has remained unchanged here but changed in USA, rather than vice versa!
(Compare "gotten".)
[I tend to think our "root" pronunciation is correct as it matches the
French which I think is the origin. BICBW.]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"Everyone has always regarded any usage but his own as either barbarous or
pedantic." - Evelyn Waugh, quoted by Lynne Truss in "Eats, shoots & Leaves"
2003
J
John M Ward
Not smug, simply a reminder.
Some change is good, wherever it happens, if it aids clarity and removes
or reduces ambiguity. Other change can be bad if it does the opposite.
Thus here in the UK I could check a bill before handing over my cheque,
but in the USA they'd check the check and hand over a check. That's
what I call ambiguous!
Similarly, although switching a light on and off alternates its state,
in another situation with more than two possibilities those states would
become alternatives in the UK, but still alternates in Leftpondia.
Of course, there are a number of such examples on both sides of the
Atlantic, and my aim over time would be to eliminate these through
evolution of the language rather than acceptance. That'd be in
pronunciation as well as spelling.
Theft of existing words and pretending they now have another meaning is
making the situation worse, not better. Such words as gay (already well
embedded within literature with its clear traditional meaning) and, more
recently, progressive (in politics) are examples of that, and are
attempts to corrupt the language and mislead the people (it's one aspect
of Cultural Marxism).
Yes, I have tended to think so too.
P
Peter Duncanson
The pronunciation of "route" is discussed from time to time inI'm in England too, but we shouldn't be smug: just because it came fromJohn M Ward said:Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country of
origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard to say
which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
here, no reason to assume pronunciation - or grammar, or anything else -
has remained unchanged here but changed in USA, rather than vice versa!
(Compare "gotten".)
[I tend to think our "root" pronunciation is correct as it matches the
French which I think is the origin. BICBW.]
alt.usage.english. Both the "oo" and "ow" pronunciations are used for
"route" in the US.
I think it was the last time we discussed it there that I had just
watched an American movie on TV and had noticed in a scene in which two
characters were discussing how to get somewhere that one used the "ow"
sound and the other the "oo".
The (American) Merriam-Webster online dictionary has audio clips of the
two different AmE pronunciations:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/route
J
John M Ward
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:43:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
I'm in England too, but we shouldn't be smug: just because it cameJohn M Ward said:I am in the USA.
Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country
of origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard
to say which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
from here, no reason to assume pronunciation - or grammar, or
anything else - has remained unchanged here but changed in USA,
rather than vice versa! (Compare "gotten".)
[I tend to think our "root" pronunciation is correct as it matches
the French which I think is the origin. BICBW.]
Yes, I've noticed that, and with the letter zed (or zee).
I've spotted this too, including in Stargate Atlantis where UK-born
actor David Hewlett plays a Canadian: apparently the Canadians have
pronunciations more like ours than the USians so this was a kind of
get-out for Dr McKay's "Zep Pee Em" (Zero Point Module).
E
Ed Cryer
Carrie, the lad that was born to be king, over the sea on Skye.
Ed
C
choro
Since you two have gone way off the subject, how about changing it yetOn Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:43:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
In message<[email protected]>, John M Ward
[]
I am in the USA.
Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country
of origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard
to say which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
I'm in England too, but we shouldn't be smug: just because it came
from here, no reason to assume pronunciation - or grammar, or
anything else - has remained unchanged here but changed in USA,
rather than vice versa! (Compare "gotten".)
[I tend to think our "root" pronunciation is correct as it matches
the French which I think is the origin. BICBW.]Yes, I've noticed that, and with the letter zed (or zee).
I've spotted this too, including in Stargate Atlantis where UK-born
actor David Hewlett plays a Canadian: apparently the Canadians have
pronunciations more like ours than the USians so this was a kind of
get-out for Dr McKay's "Zep Pee Em" (Zero Point Module).
again and going into the definition of the words "eroticism" and
"pornography" and the merits and/or demerits of both.
Is or rather was Anais Nin a writer of erotography or pornography?
Forget about "route" vs "rout" and "Zet" versus "Zee"!
And what do I see? This conversation is also being carried on in the
group "alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe"!
My God, what is the world coming to? I learned English as a foreign
language in my teens and I never thought that I'd see a Usenet group
dedicated to "Its" vs "It's". Don't they teach you that the apostrophe
is there to indicate a contraction of the full expression? They didn't
teach me either but I just added two and two together to arrive at the
following logical conclusion.
Let's see... "It's" is the shortened version of "It is" or "It has" or
some such other expression and "didn't" is a shortened version of "did
not", while in, for example, "The boy's thingie" is a contraction for
"The thingie of the boy"... ;-)
But bear all this in mind with the *caveat* that "its" has *no*
apostrophe if it can simply be replaced by any of the words in the set
*my/your/his/her/its/our/your/their*. An example would be: "Its size
is..." where "Its" can be replaced with "His/Her size is...". Get it?!
Though I never saw this subject explained so succinctly and so clearly
in any textbook, I am afraid! But talking to an English language teacher
who was himself English, the foremost authority on the English language
is a Dutchman! There we have it in a nutshell! No, unfortunately I am
not that Dutchman. Not even Dutch!
Oh, I never told you that in my younger days I was a teacher of English
as a foreign language to teenagers for a couple of years until I gave up
teaching over poor pay. That was over half a century ago, but what is it
they say. "Once a teacher, always a teacher"!
And once the boys and girls I used to teach got this concept of the
apostrophe being there to stand for an abbreviation, they didn't make
any such stupid mistakes any more.
-- choro
PS. Please direct your responses to the
"alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe" group and let's (abbreviated in
lieu of "let us"!) leave the "alt.windows7.general" group to discussions
more relevant to Windows 7 issues.
E
Ed Cryer
If only it were that simple and straight-forward!! But it isn't.Since you two have gone way off the subject, how about changing it yetIn message<[email protected]>, John M Ward
[]
I am in the USA.
Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country
of origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard
to say which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
I'm in England too, but we shouldn't be smug: just because it came
from here, no reason to assume pronunciation - or grammar, or
anything else - has remained unchanged here but changed in USA,
rather than vice versa! (Compare "gotten".)
[I tend to think our "root" pronunciation is correct as it matches
the French which I think is the origin. BICBW.]Yes, I've noticed that, and with the letter zed (or zee).
I've spotted this too, including in Stargate Atlantis where UK-born
actor David Hewlett plays a Canadian: apparently the Canadians have
pronunciations more like ours than the USians so this was a kind of
get-out for Dr McKay's "Zep Pee Em" (Zero Point Module).
again and going into the definition of the words "eroticism" and
"pornography" and the merits and/or demerits of both.
Is or rather was Anais Nin a writer of erotography or pornography?
Forget about "route" vs "rout" and "Zet" versus "Zee"!
And what do I see? This conversation is also being carried on in the
group "alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe"!
My God, what is the world coming to? I learned English as a foreign
language in my teens and I never thought that I'd see a Usenet group
dedicated to "Its" vs "It's". Don't they teach you that the apostrophe
is there to indicate a contraction of the full expression? They didn't
teach me either but I just added two and two together to arrive at the
following logical conclusion.
Let's see... "It's" is the shortened version of "It is" or "It has" or
some such other expression and "didn't" is a shortened version of "did
not", while in, for example, "The boy's thingie" is a contraction for
"The thingie of the boy"... ;-)
But bear all this in mind with the *caveat* that "its" has *no*
apostrophe if it can simply be replaced by any of the words in the set
*my/your/his/her/its/our/your/their*. An example would be: "Its size
is..." where "Its" can be replaced with "His/Her size is...". Get it?!
Though I never saw this subject explained so succinctly and so clearly
in any textbook, I am afraid! But talking to an English language teacher
who was himself English, the foremost authority on the English language
is a Dutchman! There we have it in a nutshell! No, unfortunately I am
not that Dutchman. Not even Dutch!
Oh, I never told you that in my younger days I was a teacher of English
as a foreign language to teenagers for a couple of years until I gave up
teaching over poor pay. That was over half a century ago, but what is it
they say. "Once a teacher, always a teacher"!
And once the boys and girls I used to teach got this concept of the
apostrophe being there to stand for an abbreviation, they didn't make
any such stupid mistakes any more.
-- choro
Look at the apostrophies in these two sentences;
It's the boy's book.
It isn't the boys' book.
You'll see where an apostrophy doesn't signify a contraction but a
possessive genitive derived from Germanic genitive case.
Ed's very own contribution to "its" and "it's".
C
choro
You are right, you b****rd! ;-)If only it were that simple and straight-forward!! But it isn't.Since you two have gone way off the subject, how about changing it yetOn Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:43:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
In message<[email protected]>, John M Ward
[]
I am in the USA.
Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country
of origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard
to say which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
I'm in England too, but we shouldn't be smug: just because it came
from here, no reason to assume pronunciation - or grammar, or
anything else - has remained unchanged here but changed in USA,
rather than vice versa! (Compare "gotten".)
[I tend to think our "root" pronunciation is correct as it matches
the French which I think is the origin. BICBW.]
The pronunciation of "route" is discussed from time to time in
alt.usage.english. Both the "oo" and "ow" pronunciations are used for
"route" in the US.
Yes, I've noticed that, and with the letter zed (or zee).
I think it was the last time we discussed it there that I had just
watched an American movie on TV and had noticed in a scene in which
two characters were discussing how to get somewhere that one used the
"ow" sound and the other the "oo".
I've spotted this too, including in Stargate Atlantis where UK-born
actor David Hewlett plays a Canadian: apparently the Canadians have
pronunciations more like ours than the USians so this was a kind of
get-out for Dr McKay's "Zep Pee Em" (Zero Point Module).
again and going into the definition of the words "eroticism" and
"pornography" and the merits and/or demerits of both.
Is or rather was Anais Nin a writer of erotography or pornography?
Forget about "route" vs "rout" and "Zet" versus "Zee"!
And what do I see? This conversation is also being carried on in the
group "alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe"!
My God, what is the world coming to? I learned English as a foreign
language in my teens and I never thought that I'd see a Usenet group
dedicated to "Its" vs "It's". Don't they teach you that the apostrophe
is there to indicate a contraction of the full expression? They didn't
teach me either but I just added two and two together to arrive at the
following logical conclusion.
Let's see... "It's" is the shortened version of "It is" or "It has" or
some such other expression and "didn't" is a shortened version of "did
not", while in, for example, "The boy's thingie" is a contraction for
"The thingie of the boy"... ;-)
But bear all this in mind with the *caveat* that "its" has *no*
apostrophe if it can simply be replaced by any of the words in the set
*my/your/his/her/its/our/your/their*. An example would be: "Its size
is..." where "Its" can be replaced with "His/Her size is...". Get it?!
Though I never saw this subject explained so succinctly and so clearly
in any textbook, I am afraid! But talking to an English language teacher
who was himself English, the foremost authority on the English language
is a Dutchman! There we have it in a nutshell! No, unfortunately I am
not that Dutchman. Not even Dutch!
Oh, I never told you that in my younger days I was a teacher of English
as a foreign language to teenagers for a couple of years until I gave up
teaching over poor pay. That was over half a century ago, but what is it
they say. "Once a teacher, always a teacher"!
And once the boys and girls I used to teach got this concept of the
apostrophe being there to stand for an abbreviation, they didn't make
any such stupid mistakes any more.
-- choro
Look at the apostrophies in these two sentences;
It's the boy's book.
It isn't the boys' book.
You'll see where an apostrophy doesn't signify a contraction but a
possessive genitive derived from Germanic genitive case.
Ed's very own contribution to "its" and "it's".
I knew I had boo-booed somewhere! But still what did I say?...
"But bear all this in mind with the *caveat* that "its" has *no*
apostrophe if it can simply be replaced by any of the words in the set
*my/your/his/her/its/our/your/their*. An example would be: "Its size
is..." where "Its" can be replaced with "His/Her size is...". Get it?!"
I am talking only about "Its" here and in your example the word "boy/s"
(not Its or Their) in "The boy's thingie..." and "The boys' thingie..."
fall outside this *"Its Caveat"*!
And besides using such terms as "possessive genitive" only confuses the
average person or student. Keep it simple, as says my old classmate who
has made a billion! Why complicate things?
Do you have to understand the laws of chemistry to fry an egg or indeed
to boil one?
Ah, but boiling an egg is an art in itself!!! Or do you want to approach
the problem through understanding exactly what happens when you boil an
egg? Just boil the bloody thing!
I remember my ex jumping into the garden when she tried frying an egg
for the very first time for me! Apparently she used to get the oil so
hot that the egg spluttered wildly when she broke it into the frying
pan! Stupid bitch!
-- choro
E
Ed Cryer
No no, you shouldn't investigate things too deeply. It drives some nutsYou are right, you b****rd! ;-)If only it were that simple and straight-forward!! But it isn't.On 14/11/2011 09:28, John M Ward wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:43:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
In message<[email protected]>, John M Ward
[]
I am in the USA.
Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country
of origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard
to say which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
I'm in England too, but we shouldn't be smug: just because it came
from here, no reason to assume pronunciation - or grammar, or
anything else - has remained unchanged here but changed in USA,
rather than vice versa! (Compare "gotten".)
[I tend to think our "root" pronunciation is correct as it matches
the French which I think is the origin. BICBW.]
The pronunciation of "route" is discussed from time to time in
alt.usage.english. Both the "oo" and "ow" pronunciations are used for
"route" in the US.
Yes, I've noticed that, and with the letter zed (or zee).
I think it was the last time we discussed it there that I had just
watched an American movie on TV and had noticed in a scene in which
two characters were discussing how to get somewhere that one used the
"ow" sound and the other the "oo".
I've spotted this too, including in Stargate Atlantis where UK-born
actor David Hewlett plays a Canadian: apparently the Canadians have
pronunciations more like ours than the USians so this was a kind of
get-out for Dr McKay's "Zep Pee Em" (Zero Point Module).
Since you two have gone way off the subject, how about changing it yet
again and going into the definition of the words "eroticism" and
"pornography" and the merits and/or demerits of both.
Is or rather was Anais Nin a writer of erotography or pornography?
Forget about "route" vs "rout" and "Zet" versus "Zee"!
And what do I see? This conversation is also being carried on in the
group "alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe"!
My God, what is the world coming to? I learned English as a foreign
language in my teens and I never thought that I'd see a Usenet group
dedicated to "Its" vs "It's". Don't they teach you that the apostrophe
is there to indicate a contraction of the full expression? They didn't
teach me either but I just added two and two together to arrive at the
following logical conclusion.
Let's see... "It's" is the shortened version of "It is" or "It has" or
some such other expression and "didn't" is a shortened version of "did
not", while in, for example, "The boy's thingie" is a contraction for
"The thingie of the boy"... ;-)
But bear all this in mind with the *caveat* that "its" has *no*
apostrophe if it can simply be replaced by any of the words in the set
*my/your/his/her/its/our/your/their*. An example would be: "Its size
is..." where "Its" can be replaced with "His/Her size is...". Get it?!
Though I never saw this subject explained so succinctly and so clearly
in any textbook, I am afraid! But talking to an English language teacher
who was himself English, the foremost authority on the English language
is a Dutchman! There we have it in a nutshell! No, unfortunately I am
not that Dutchman. Not even Dutch!
Oh, I never told you that in my younger days I was a teacher of English
as a foreign language to teenagers for a couple of years until I gave up
teaching over poor pay. That was over half a century ago, but what is it
they say. "Once a teacher, always a teacher"!
And once the boys and girls I used to teach got this concept of the
apostrophe being there to stand for an abbreviation, they didn't make
any such stupid mistakes any more.
-- choro
Look at the apostrophies in these two sentences;
It's the boy's book.
It isn't the boys' book.
You'll see where an apostrophy doesn't signify a contraction but a
possessive genitive derived from Germanic genitive case.
Ed's very own contribution to "its" and "it's".
I knew I had boo-booed somewhere! But still what did I say?...
"But bear all this in mind with the *caveat* that "its" has *no*
apostrophe if it can simply be replaced by any of the words in the set
*my/your/his/her/its/our/your/their*. An example would be: "Its size
is..." where "Its" can be replaced with "His/Her size is...". Get it?!"
I am talking only about "Its" here and in your example the word "boy/s"
(not Its or Their) in "The boy's thingie..." and "The boys' thingie..."
fall outside this *"Its Caveat"*!
And besides using such terms as "possessive genitive" only confuses the
average person or student. Keep it simple, as says my old classmate who
has made a billion! Why complicate things?
Do you have to understand the laws of chemistry to fry an egg or indeed
to boil one?
Ah, but boiling an egg is an art in itself!!! Or do you want to approach
the problem through understanding exactly what happens when you boil an
egg? Just boil the bloody thing!
I remember my ex jumping into the garden when she tried frying an egg
for the very first time for me! Apparently she used to get the oil so
hot that the egg spluttered wildly when she broke it into the frying
pan! Stupid bitch!
-- choro
and it brings little benefit to humanity. We should all go back to an
agrarian economy, believe in a flat earth and the geocentric map of the
solar system. We certainly shouldn't go running through the streets of a
city in the nude crying "Eureka" like Archimedes.
Let sleeping dogs lie. Draco dormiens non est titillandus.
Some nutters even discuss the plural of acronyms; whether they should
have an apostrophe or not.
Is it "CDs" or "CD's"?
I think these plagues of the earth should be hanged, drawn and
quartered, as was William Wallace for trying to liberate them there
Celtic Scots.
Ed the stepping-stone (Nemo me impune lacessit)
C
choro
Well said. But the plural of CD is surely CDs and not CD's. ;-)No no, you shouldn't investigate things too deeply. It drives some nutsYou are right, you b****rd! ;-)On 14/11/2011 11:56, choro wrote:
On 14/11/2011 09:28, John M Ward wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:43:39 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
In message<[email protected]>, John M Ward
[]
I am in the USA.
Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country
of origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard
to say which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
I'm in England too, but we shouldn't be smug: just because it came
from here, no reason to assume pronunciation - or grammar, or
anything else - has remained unchanged here but changed in USA,
rather than vice versa! (Compare "gotten".)
[I tend to think our "root" pronunciation is correct as it matches
the French which I think is the origin. BICBW.]
The pronunciation of "route" is discussed from time to time in
alt.usage.english. Both the "oo" and "ow" pronunciations are used for
"route" in the US.
Yes, I've noticed that, and with the letter zed (or zee).
I think it was the last time we discussed it there that I had just
watched an American movie on TV and had noticed in a scene in which
two characters were discussing how to get somewhere that one used the
"ow" sound and the other the "oo".
I've spotted this too, including in Stargate Atlantis where UK-born
actor David Hewlett plays a Canadian: apparently the Canadians have
pronunciations more like ours than the USians so this was a kind of
get-out for Dr McKay's "Zep Pee Em" (Zero Point Module).
Since you two have gone way off the subject, how about changing it yet
again and going into the definition of the words "eroticism" and
"pornography" and the merits and/or demerits of both.
Is or rather was Anais Nin a writer of erotography or pornography?
Forget about "route" vs "rout" and "Zet" versus "Zee"!
And what do I see? This conversation is also being carried on in the
group "alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe"!
My God, what is the world coming to? I learned English as a foreign
language in my teens and I never thought that I'd see a Usenet group
dedicated to "Its" vs "It's". Don't they teach you that the apostrophe
is there to indicate a contraction of the full expression? They didn't
teach me either but I just added two and two together to arrive at the
following logical conclusion.
Let's see... "It's" is the shortened version of "It is" or "It has" or
some such other expression and "didn't" is a shortened version of "did
not", while in, for example, "The boy's thingie" is a contraction for
"The thingie of the boy"... ;-)
But bear all this in mind with the *caveat* that "its" has *no*
apostrophe if it can simply be replaced by any of the words in the set
*my/your/his/her/its/our/your/their*. An example would be: "Its size
is..." where "Its" can be replaced with "His/Her size is...". Get it?!
Though I never saw this subject explained so succinctly and so clearly
in any textbook, I am afraid! But talking to an English language
teacher
who was himself English, the foremost authority on the English language
is a Dutchman! There we have it in a nutshell! No, unfortunately I am
not that Dutchman. Not even Dutch!
Oh, I never told you that in my younger days I was a teacher of English
as a foreign language to teenagers for a couple of years until I
gave up
teaching over poor pay. That was over half a century ago, but what
is it
they say. "Once a teacher, always a teacher"!
And once the boys and girls I used to teach got this concept of the
apostrophe being there to stand for an abbreviation, they didn't make
any such stupid mistakes any more.
-- choro
If only it were that simple and straight-forward!! But it isn't.
Look at the apostrophies in these two sentences;
It's the boy's book.
It isn't the boys' book.
You'll see where an apostrophy doesn't signify a contraction but a
possessive genitive derived from Germanic genitive case.
Ed's very own contribution to "its" and "it's".
I knew I had boo-booed somewhere! But still what did I say?...
"But bear all this in mind with the *caveat* that "its" has *no*
apostrophe if it can simply be replaced by any of the words in the set
*my/your/his/her/its/our/your/their*. An example would be: "Its size
is..." where "Its" can be replaced with "His/Her size is...". Get it?!"
I am talking only about "Its" here and in your example the word "boy/s"
(not Its or Their) in "The boy's thingie..." and "The boys' thingie..."
fall outside this *"Its Caveat"*!
And besides using such terms as "possessive genitive" only confuses the
average person or student. Keep it simple, as says my old classmate who
has made a billion! Why complicate things?
Do you have to understand the laws of chemistry to fry an egg or indeed
to boil one?
Ah, but boiling an egg is an art in itself!!! Or do you want to approach
the problem through understanding exactly what happens when you boil an
egg? Just boil the bloody thing!
I remember my ex jumping into the garden when she tried frying an egg
for the very first time for me! Apparently she used to get the oil so
hot that the egg spluttered wildly when she broke it into the frying
pan! Stupid bitch!
-- choro
and it brings little benefit to humanity. We should all go back to an
agrarian economy, believe in a flat earth and the geocentric map of the
solar system. We certainly shouldn't go running through the streets of a
city in the nude crying "Eureka" like Archimedes.
Let sleeping dogs lie. Draco dormiens non est titillandus.
Some nutters even discuss the plural of acronyms; whether they should
have an apostrophe or not.
Is it "CDs" or "CD's"?
I think these plagues of the earth should be hanged, drawn and
quartered, as was William Wallace for trying to liberate them there
Celtic Scots.
Ed the stepping-stone (Nemo me impune lacessit)
I try to stick to this rule wherever possible but one day I was dealing
with another acronym and felt that I had no option but to use the damned
apostrophe! I'll be damned if I can now recall which acronym it was.
Such is life! I am right at this moment listening to and partly watching
the New Year Day's Concert of 1989 with the VPO under Carlos Kleiber! An
unbeatable combination. Absolutely *bootiful*; all 1 hour and 42 minutes
of it, courtesy of some nutter who has got nothing better to do than to
make available the video of the full concert on YouTube! Bloody good
sound as well as fairly good cinematic definition, actually.
-- choro
G
Gene E. Bloch
In fact, it varies within the US. I say root because I lived for a long[huge snip]
Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country of
origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard to say
which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
time in parts of the eastern US that say it that way. Sometimes I say
rowt because now I live in a different dialect area
E
Ed Cryer
You should be thankful you don't live in the UK.In fact, it varies within the US. I say root because I lived for a long[huge snip]
Well, no-one's perfect
As for the pronunciation of "route", here in the language's country of
origin in rhymes with root rather than rout, though it is hard to say
which is better or whether one is right and the other wrong.
time in parts of the eastern US that say it that way. Sometimes I say
rowt because now I live in a different dialect area
I once called in a shop in Newcastle (Geordie-land) for a packet of
cigarettes, paid the bloke, got the change and was turning to go out
when he suddenly said to me "Ta bin reet doont dere lad".
I checked my change and cigarettes, looked him in the face, nothing
more, so I went out. And to this day I have no idea what he was trying
to tell me.
Ed