OT: Question about Office 2013

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Char Jackson

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BillW50

Yes. It works nicely. Its name is Libre Office.(no smiley).
What do you say to those who has tried it (I did about a week or two
ago) and it constantly crashes just typing plain text in?
 
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BillW50

Hi Peter



Thanks for the info.
Then I better check it out.
I did a week or two ago and it constantly crashed for me. I have about
30 plus machines here and I only tried it on one of them.
 
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John Williamson

BillW50 said:
What do you say to those who has tried it (I did about a week or two
ago) and it constantly crashes just typing plain text in?
Uninstall it and re-install the latest vesion. I've had no problems with
Libre Office even before it was out of Beta.
 
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John Williamson

BillW50 said:
I did a week or two ago and it constantly crashed for me. I have about
30 plus machines here and I only tried it on one of them.
You either got a corrupt download, the files got corrupted while you
were installing it, you have a really *strange* system or you have a RAM
problem on that machine. It works here perfectly on XP (1GHz, 512Meg
RAM, Homebrew random bits, SP3), Vista (1.6GHZ dual core Pentium, 3 Gig
RAM Toshiba laptop) and 7 (1.6GHZ Atom, 2 Gig RAM, Samsung NC10). I've
never had either Open Office or Libre Office crash on me yet since OO
was Star Office running on a Pentium 133MHz with 64 Meg of RAM under
Windows 98, and you had to register it with Sun before it would install.
 
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BillW50

I've tried it in the last couple of weeks, and it worked for me.

In fact, I can test it right now. No crash. Neat.

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6159/librea.jpg

Paul
Not really Paul (viewing your graphic URL). I have 30+ machines and I
only tried it on one and that is all. All 30+ machines are running
perfectly except for the Atom Z670 one running Windows 8. And that one
runs fine except for shutdown, standby, or hibernation (Windows 7 SP1
runs perfectly btw). Oh yeah, those Z670s only uses like 3 watts of
power and they are incredibly super slow too. SO unless you have other
non-computer tasks to do too at the same time, these are probably a bad
CPU to get. As they are about as exciting as watching paint dry or
something.

Yes I could try Libre Office on those other machines. Or I could try to
figure out why that one crashes. Yes I would do both and years ago, but
now that I am older and wiser, and ask why should I? As it is far easier
to use something else that works. When you are young it seems you have
all of the time in the world. But the older you get, time becomes more
and more precious. And wasting time with something you shouldn't be
playing around with anyway just isn't very productive anymore.
 
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philo 

I'd probably still be using an old [MS Office] version were it not for
me now getting docx all the time.

Libre Office does the job for me now.

What problem were you having with your older version of MS Office and docx
files?

It would not open them, of course I was using Office 2000
which I still have installed.
The free Compatibility Pack should take care of that.
<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3>

I never knew about that, thanks!
Downloading now.

Though Libre Office does work, as other mentioned... there is not 100%
compatibility with Microsoft .
 
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philo 

On 02/21/2013 01:07 PM, philo wrote:

I never knew about that, thanks!
Downloading now.

Though Libre Office does work, as other mentioned... there is not 100%
compatibility with Microsoft .
Tried it, works great...thank you...I will keep using Word 2000 !
 
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BillW50

Uninstall it and re-install the latest vesion. I've had no problems with
Libre Office even before it was out of Beta.
It was the latest version. Maybe I should have downloaded an older version.
 
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BillW50

You either got a corrupt download, the files got corrupted while you
were installing it, you have a really *strange* system or you have a RAM
problem on that machine. It works here perfectly on XP (1GHz, 512Meg
RAM, Homebrew random bits, SP3), Vista (1.6GHZ dual core Pentium, 3 Gig
RAM Toshiba laptop) and 7 (1.6GHZ Atom, 2 Gig RAM, Samsung NC10). I've
never had either Open Office or Libre Office crash on me yet since OO
was Star Office running on a Pentium 133MHz with 64 Meg of RAM under
Windows 98, and you had to register it with Sun before it would install.
Really? How much you want to bet? I love people who believe I am wrong
and willing to bet. But nobody in decades want to. Why is that?
 
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Paul

BillW50 said:
Really? How much you want to bet? I love people who believe I am wrong
and willing to bet. But nobody in decades want to. Why is that?
Seeing as this is "not the real world" at all, what's it worth to us ?

Nothing.

So your world view is a bit skewed. Not a problem.

I prefer to see value in everything I use. A little bit here
and a little bit there. If some thing I'm using, isn't the best
for the job, I skip over and find something else to take its place.
No sense moaning about it, as whether you're using freeware or
commercial software, nobody gives a rats ass if it doesn't work
for you.

*******

Since you're so well equipped in your computing facility,
you could:

1) Start with a blank disk.
2) Install Windows, using nothing more than Service Packs and
Windows Update.
3) Install LibreOffice.
4) Open a text window.
5) Type into it.
6) It doesn't crash.

Step 2 need not be as onerous as it seems, if you kept a
backup of your last install, and just restored it for the
experiment. I keep at least one OS image for that very
purpose ("clean"-type experiments). This avoids the complexity
of having 101 screensavers, codecs, and assorted garbage on the
box, to tip it the experiment. And give unexplained results.

Since a crashing app leaves logs, you could even use
things like dumpchk or bluescreenviewer. That is, if you
were at all curious.

Paul
 
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BillW50

Seeing as this is "not the real world" at all, what's it worth to us ?

Nothing.
Really? I think it is important to those to care.
So your world view is a bit skewed. Not a problem.
Well I am not everybody, but go on.
I prefer to see value in everything I use. A little bit here
and a little bit there. If some thing I'm using, isn't the best
for the job, I skip over and find something else to take its place.
No sense moaning about it, as whether you're using freeware or
commercial software, nobody gives a rats ass if it doesn't work
for you.

*******
Nor do I care. If it works great, if it doesn't it gets trashed.
Since you're so well equipped in your computing facility,
you could:

1) Start with a blank disk.
2) Install Windows, using nothing more than Service Packs and
Windows Update.
3) Install LibreOffice.
4) Open a text window.
5) Type into it.
6) It doesn't crash.

Step 2 need not be as onerous as it seems, if you kept a
backup of your last install, and just restored it for the
experiment. I keep at least one OS image for that very
purpose ("clean"-type experiments). This avoids the complexity
of having 101 screensavers, codecs, and assorted garbage on the
box, to tip it the experiment. And give unexplained results.

Since a crashing app leaves logs, you could even use
things like dumpchk or bluescreenviewer. That is, if you
were at all curious.
I was the first ones to mention bluescreenviewer, don't you remember?
Been there is done that. What else do you have? I have probably been
there too. But go ahead and entertain me anyway.
 
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philo 

Oh yes, I totally understand. ;-)

I am a bit of a writer, and I was still using a typewriter until about
the year 2000.

A ribbon replacement once a year.
A few drops of oil every five years and that was it.

Word 2000 should be good for a few more years yet, but I never did put
my typewriter away.
 
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John Williamson

BillW50 said:
Really? How much you want to bet? I love people who believe I am wrong
and willing to bet. But nobody in decades want to. Why is that?
You've admitted that you've only ever tried it on a system that sounds
marginal even for the OS on its own, so an application crashing isn't
exactly unexpected.

Did the MD5 checksum on your download match the one on the website?

Does the system you're using match the minimum spec listed? There's an
assumption within the last few years that if it will run a modern OS,
then it will run any applications supported by that OS. It's possible
you've got a problem with your Java installation, too, as LO uses Java
for certain operations including the accessibility and database report
features.
 
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Stan Brown

But they produced a free docx viewer, and I think even a free (to people
who'd bought 2003) addon to let it open docxs.
Correct. Ditto for Excel 2003 to open .xlsx and other new file
types.
 
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Peter Taylor

Forevermore, why?
For work. No other email program does the job properly. My business
requires HTML emails and multiple signatures. No other email program
does it properly.
 

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