Outlook express

[Stewart]

Or any of the many other mail and newsgroup clients out there.

Avoid Windows Live Mail. It is severely broken, especially it's
newsgroups features. Microsoft shows no signs of fixing it.

I concur. Terrible.

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Bruce.

Good question! ;^{

Seems to me it was actually supported only by you and a few other MVPs - in
newsgroups, which MS abandoned. ;>(

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message

(Some users have hacked WM into Win7, but that is not supported by
Microsoft.)

RC

Was it ever supported in Vista? <VBG>

 

[Boscoe]

Hi, Boscoe.

in message


You can use Windows Mail which is like OE.

_______

NO.

Windows Mail will not run in Win7 - or in anything else but Vista.

(Some users have hacked WM into Win7, but that is not supported by
Microsoft.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1

Erm... Windows Mail works fine in windows 7 and if I'd have known it was
so easy to copy over from a Vista machine, I wouldn't be using
Thunderbird, now.

 

[Nil]

Erm... Windows Mail works fine in windows 7 and if I'd have known
it was so easy to copy over from a Vista machine, I wouldn't be
using Thunderbird, now.

It can be made to work, but I've been told that it can be easily broken
by various MS updates. Unless you're prepared to constantly babysit it,
I wouldn't bother with it on Windows 7. And it's a pretty lousy program
in the first place. Better to go with one of the many alternatives.

 

[Ken Blake]

I personally use [...] FortÊ Agent for newsgroups

^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?

No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.

 

[Ken Blake]

Hi, Boscoe.

"Boscoe" wrote in message


You can use Windows Mail which is like OE.

_______

NO.

Windows Mail will not run in Win7 - or in anything else but Vista.

(Some users have hacked WM into Win7, but that is not supported by
Microsoft.)

"Hacked" is too strong a word, RC. You can simply copy it from a Vista
machine.

I've never done this myself, but everyone I know who has done it has
said it was easy and works very well.

 

[Ed Cryer]

I personally use [...] FortÊ Agent for newsgroups

^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?

No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.

But I do, and I know why. You used Cyrillic character encoding.

Ed

 

[Ken Blake]

Ken Blake wrote:

I personally use [...] FortÊ Agent for newsgroups
^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?

No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.

But I do, and I know why. You used Cyrillic character encoding.

Perhaps I did by accident. I didn't know I did it.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Thanks - it works now - strange!

You just forgot to cross your fingers the first time you clicked on the
link.

Sometimes things seem to get confused for a few seconds/minutes/hours.
It's probably just a natural consequence of the size and complexity of
the Internet. But I agree: strange!

 

[Ed Cryer]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:26:21 +0100, Andy Burns

Ken Blake wrote:

I personally use [...] FortÊ Agent for newsgroups
^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?


No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.

But I do, and I know why. You used Cyrillic character encoding.

Perhaps I did by accident. I didn't know I did it.

Hi Ken.

Something has gone wrong with your Forte newsmail settings. Not only
have you got character encoding set to Cyrillic, but the text size has
gone really small.
Most people have their mail programs set to reply using settings of post
being replied to, and that's what's happened here.
But it started with your post about 5 above in direct reply to Jeff T,
whose was in Unicode. All following from you (including this one too)
have simply picked up on the settings you introduced.

Ed

 

[Chet]

I concur. Terrible.

I agree and would actually be surprised if they did fix it.

Microsoft did away with their newsgroups (moving to forums) so
therefore, "their" users do not need a newsreader. They've even made
changes to their forums so an NNTP bridge can't be used any longer.
It would not surprise me if future versions of WLM's newsreader gets
worse (is it possible?) or completely disappears.

Oh well, I like my Thunderbird, it does what I want

 

[Bruce Hagen]

On 10/10/2011 18:13, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:26:21 +0100, Andy Burns

Ken Blake wrote:

I personally use [...] Fort� Agent for newsgroups
^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?


No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.


But I do, and I know why. You used Cyrillic character encoding.

Perhaps I did by accident. I didn't know I did it.

Hi Ken.

Something has gone wrong with your Forte newsmail settings. Not only
have you got character encoding set to Cyrillic, but the text size has
gone really small.
Most people have their mail programs set to reply using settings of post
being replied to, and that's what's happened here.
But it started with your post about 5 above in direct reply to Jeff T,
whose was in Unicode. All following from you (including this one too)
have simply picked up on the settings you introduced.

Ed

Ken's posts look normal here. Reading in Unicode (UTF-8)

 

[Carroll Robbins]

On 10/10/2011 18:13, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:26:21 +0100, Andy Burns

Ken Blake wrote:

I personally use [...] Fort? Agent for newsgroups
^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?


No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.


But I do, and I know why. You used Cyrillic character encoding.

Perhaps I did by accident. I didn't know I did it.

Hi Ken.

Something has gone wrong with your Forte newsmail settings. Not only
have you got character encoding set to Cyrillic, but the text size has
gone really small.
Most people have their mail programs set to reply using settings of post
being replied to, and that's what's happened here.
But it started with your post about 5 above in direct reply to Jeff T,
whose was in Unicode. All following from you (including this one too)
have simply picked up on the settings you introduced.

Ken's language settings for this group are inappropriate for this group. He
needs to adjust the settings for posting in English groups.

Ken is posting in plain text as others in this group are doing. They are
not controlling the size of the displayed text, your newsreader is. If the
characters are too small you need to adjust the settings in your
newsreader. They are not small in my newsreader.

 

[Ed Cryer]

On 10/10/2011 18:13, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:26:21 +0100, Andy Burns

Ken Blake wrote:

I personally use [...] Fort� Agent for newsgroups
^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?


No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.


But I do, and I know why. You used Cyrillic character encoding.


Perhaps I did by accident. I didn't know I did it.

Hi Ken.

Something has gone wrong with your Forte newsmail settings. Not only
have you got character encoding set to Cyrillic, but the text size has
gone really small.
Most people have their mail programs set to reply using settings of
post being replied to, and that's what's happened here.
But it started with your post about 5 above in direct reply to Jeff T,
whose was in Unicode. All following from you (including this one too)
have simply picked up on the settings you introduced.

Ed

Ken's posts look normal here. Reading in Unicode (UTF-8)

Yes, but you have Unicode set rather than the poster's format.

Ed

 

[Ed Cryer]

On 10/10/2011 18:13, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:26:21 +0100, Andy Burns

Ken Blake wrote:

I personally use [...] Fort? Agent for newsgroups
^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?


No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.


But I do, and I know why. You used Cyrillic character encoding.


Perhaps I did by accident. I didn't know I did it.

Hi Ken.

Something has gone wrong with your Forte newsmail settings. Not only
have you got character encoding set to Cyrillic, but the text size has
gone really small.
Most people have their mail programs set to reply using settings of post
being replied to, and that's what's happened here.
But it started with your post about 5 above in direct reply to Jeff T,
whose was in Unicode. All following from you (including this one too)
have simply picked up on the settings you introduced.

Ken's language settings for this group are inappropriate for this group. He
needs to adjust the settings for posting in English groups.

Ken is posting in plain text as others in this group are doing. They are
not controlling the size of the displayed text, your newsreader is. If the
characters are too small you need to adjust the settings in your
newsreader. They are not small in my newsreader.

You've replied in Western-ISO, so you won't see the smaller script. If,
on the other hand, you were set to reply in same format, then you would.

Ed

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer

You've replied in Western-ISO, so you won't see the smaller script. If,
on the other hand, you were set to reply in same format, then you
would.

Ed

Surely font - or character set - are a different thing to font _size_?

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <[email protected]>, VanguardLH <[email protected]>
writes:
[]

There are plenty of other e-mail and newsreader clients available. Many
e-mail clients are free: Thunderbird (and derivatives; e.g., Sunbird),
Pegasus Mail, Opera & Seamonkey (web/email/news client), Eudora
(crippleware), and PIM programs that include e-mail functions, like
EssentialPIM, and "cloud" desktops with e-mail, like Zimbra Desktop.

[]
(Wow, is Pegasus still going? Under 7?)

Eudora OSE is a fully-working version that works under 7. (It's actually
a disguised version of Thunderbird, but tweaked to look - and behave
somewhat, I think possibly including some keyboard shortcuts - like
Eudora "classic".)

 

[Ken Blake]

I agree and would actually be surprised if they did fix it.

Microsoft did away with their newsgroups (moving to forums) so
therefore, "their" users do not need a newsreader. They've even made
changes to their forums so an NNTP bridge can't be used any longer.

One of the *worst* things they did.

It would not surprise me if future versions of WLM's newsreader gets
worse (is it possible?) or completely disappears.

To tell the truth, I'm surprised that they left the newsreader in, but
made it worse. It makes no sense to me.

 

[Ken Blake]

On 10/10/2011 18:13, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:26:21 +0100, Andy Burns

Ken Blake wrote:

I personally use [...] Fort? Agent for newsgroups
^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?


No. Did I? I don't see it in the quote above.


But I do, and I know why. You used Cyrillic character encoding.


Perhaps I did by accident. I didn't know I did it.

Hi Ken.

Something has gone wrong with your Forte newsmail settings. Not only
have you got character encoding set to Cyrillic, but the text size has
gone really small.
Most people have their mail programs set to reply using settings of post
being replied to, and that's what's happened here.
But it started with your post about 5 above in direct reply to Jeff T,
whose was in Unicode. All following from you (including this one too)
have simply picked up on the settings you introduced.

Ken's language settings for this group are inappropriate for this group. He
needs to adjust the settings for posting in English groups.

I think what happened is that I replied to a message using Cyrillic
and picked up those settings in this thread. Do you see any other
threads in which I'm posting in Cyrillic?

Ken is posting in plain text as others in this group are doing. They are
not controlling the size of the displayed text, your newsreader is. If the
characters are too small you need to adjust the settings in your
newsreader. They are not small in my newsreader.

Right.

 

[Nil]

To tell the truth, I'm surprised that they left the newsreader in,
but made it worse. It makes no sense to me.

It's almost like they did it on purpose...

I'm not much one for conspiracy theories, but sometimes ya just gotta
wonder...