Outlook express

[Jeff T]

Does Windows 7 have Outlook Express?

 

[Nil]

No. You can download Thunderbird, SeaMonkey or Windows Live Mail.

Or any of the many other mail and newsgroup clients out there.

Avoid Windows Live Mail. It is severely broken, especially it's
newsgroups features. Microsoft shows no signs of fixing it.

 

[Ed Cryer]

Does Windows 7 have Outlook Express?

No. I know someone who loves OE so much that he runs XP in a virtual
machine just so he can keep on with it.

Ed

 

[XS11E]

Does Windows 7 have Outlook Express?

No, thank goodness! There are many email clients and news readers,
many of the best ones are free and even the worst are better than OE...

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

No, thank goodness! There are many email clients and news readers,
many of the best ones are free and even the worst are better than OE...

From what I've seen, Windows Live Mail 15 is worse than most!I think OE - 6 or later - is nowhere near as bad as many people make
out. No, I don't use it, but I've seen plenty who do. (Once you've
installed, that is.)

 

[Ken Blake]

Does Windows 7 have Outlook Express?

No. XP was the last version of Windows to have it.

Vista came with Windows Mail, which in a sense is a newer version of
Outlook Express with a different name.

Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many
people object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction,
since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he
likes best. There are many choices available, both from Microsoft and
from third-parties. Some are free and some are for sale. Microsoft has
Windows Live Mail (which is essentially also a newer version of
Outlook Express/Windows Mail, with still another new name) available
for download for free and Outlook (a different program from outlook
express) available for sale, either alone or as part of Microsoft
Office.

If your computer came with Windows 7 preinstalled, it may have also
come with Windows Live Mail. If so, that's not because Windows 7 came
with it, it's because your computer's manufacturer bundled it with
what he sold you.

Some people will tell you to use Windows Live Mail; others will tell
you to use Thunderbird; still others may have other recommendations.
My advice is to ignore all such recommendations. I personally use
Microsoft Outlook for e-mail and FortÊ Agent for newsgroups, but you
should try several and choose what *you* like best, rather than make
your decision based on what I, or anyone else, likes best (or even
what Microsoft suggests).

 

[Bob I]

No, see notes here

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194179

 

[Boscoe]

Does Windows 7 have Outlook Express?

You can use Windows Mail which is like OE.

 

[Stubbo of Oz]

No, see notes here

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194179

--> Page not found error

 

[Stubbo of Oz]

You can use Windows Mail which is like OE.

But a lot worse.

IMHO it is hopeless at handling multiple email accounts :-(

 

[Ken Blake]

From what I've seen, Windows Live Mail 15 is worse than most!
I think OE - 6 or later - is nowhere near as bad as many people make
out. No, I don't use it, but I've seen plenty who do. (Once you've
installed, that is.)

I agree with you. In my view, Outlook Express was better than Windows
Live Mail is.

 

[Thip]

But a lot worse.

IMHO it is hopeless at handling multiple email accounts :-(

It handles my 3 accounts just fine.

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Boscoe.

"Boscoe" wrote in message

Does Windows 7 have Outlook Express?

You can use Windows Mail which is like OE.

_______

NO.

Windows Mail will not run in Win7 - or in anything else but Vista.

(Some users have hacked WM into Win7, but that is not supported by
Microsoft.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

--> Page not found error

Try again - it works for me at this time.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

(Some users have hacked WM into Win7, but that is not supported by
Microsoft.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1

Was it ever supported in Vista? <VBG>

 

[Stubbo of Oz]

Try again - it works for me at this time.

Thanks - it works now - strange!

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

From what I've seen, Windows Live Mail 15 is worse than most!
I think OE - 6 or later - is nowhere near as bad as many people make
out. No, I don't use it, but I've seen plenty who do. (Once you've
installed, that is.)

Oops, don't know what happened there - I meant to say "Once you've
installed OE-quotefix".

 

[Bob Henson]

I agree with you. In my view, Outlook Express was better than Windows
Live Mail is.

That's like saying catching cholera is better than catching plague..

 

[Andy Burns]

I personally use [...] FortÊ Agent for newsgroups

^^^
Did you mean to post using a Russian character set?

 

[VanguardLH]

Does Windows 7 have Outlook Express?

Depends on WHICH edition of Windows 7 that you never mentioned.

When it was supported, Outlook Express (OE) came bundled with Internet
Explorer (IE). OE has long been unsupported (which does not equate to
unusable). You cannot get OE separately from IE. They came bundled
together. As of IE7 and later, OE is no longer bundled with IE. IE6
was the last version that bundled OE with it. Microsoft isn't going to
bundle unsupported products with supported products.

Windows XP comes with IE6 as its baseline version hence why OE is
available with that operating system. Vista comes with IE7 and Windows
7 comes with IE8 as their baseline versions of that web browser. You
cannot install earlier versions of IE on those Windows platforms.

You could run VirtualPC, VMWare Server, VirtualBox, or other virtual
machine managers (VMMs) on Vista/7 and then install a pre-Vista version
of Windows in a virtual machine (VM) to have OE running inside that
virtual machine. That requires installing the VMM, installing pre-Vista
Windows in a virtual machine (VM), and then load that VM when you want
to run OE. According to Microsoft's EULAs, you will need another
license of Windows to run it inside a VM. That is a lot of work and
nuisance along with the expense of 2 licenses for Windows (host and
guest) to run a long-dead e-mail client.

_Using Outlook Express under Windows 7_
Windows 7 doesn't include a bundled e-mail or newsreader client.
You'll have to choose one and install it. For the Professional,
Ultimate, and Enterprise editions of Windows 7, a license of Windows
XP SP-3 is included called XP Mode. If you install XP Mode and then
Windows VirtualPC (WVPC), you will have Windows XP available as a
guest OS running inside a virtual machine. Windows XP comes with IE6
so OE6 will be available.
See: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Win7xpmode-IE6OE6

Windows Mail (WM) is the e-mail client included in Windows Vista.
Windows *Live* Mail (WLM) is the Microsoft's free replacement for both
OE and WM which were also free. Windows 7 does not come with an e-mail
and/or newsreader client pre-installed so you will have to install one.

WLM download: http://download.live.com

After installing just WLM, go into Add/Remove Programs and uninstall the
unwanted extra foistware that Microsoft shoves onto your host, like the
SignOn Assistant. While WLM is reminiscent of OE, it has some
functional differences. For help, the WLM newsgroup is at:

microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

NOTE: As of version 15 for WLM, Microsoft blundered by removing
support for quoting of original content in a plain-text reply, as
required by RFC 2646/3676, section 4.5. That is, Microsoft chose to
become non-compliant to an over decade old RFC. Indentation using
the quoting character ">" was available in prior versions of WLM
(and also in OE) for plain-text replies. It is gone as of v15 for
WLM which results in lack of differentiation between new content in
a reply to the content cited from the message to which you are
replying (i.e., it's all flat now). Microsoft has screwed up WLM as
of v15 so it is recommended to use a different (i.e., non-Microsoft)
e-mail & news client solution.

There are plenty of other e-mail and newsreader clients available. Many
e-mail clients are free: Thunderbird (and derivatives; e.g., Sunbird),
Pegasus Mail, Opera & Seamonkey (web/email/news client), Eudora
(crippleware), and PIM programs that include e-mail functions, like
EssentialPIM, and "cloud" desktops with e-mail, like Zimbra Desktop.
Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients. For
a webmail provider (Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, your ISP's web
interface), you only need a web browser and no local e-mail client. For
newsreaders, there are many free choices: Forte Agent (don't bother with
the ancient and crippled free version), Xnews, 40tude Dialog, XanaNews,
MesNews, and Gravity. Clients like NewsBin, GrabIt, and Newsrover are
designed for culling attachments from [multiple] posts in binary groups
and are bad choices for conversational newsreaders. Also see
http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Clients/Usenet/ and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Usenet_newsreaders. You can
also ask in the alt.software.newsreaders for more help specifically with
newsreaders.