How many of you are ready to run out and upgrade to Windows 8?

[choro]

No. You're making the same mistake many people made back in those
days. You are thinking of Windows for Workgroups 3.11, not Windows
3.11.

You mean there was not only a Windows 3.11 but also a Windows for
Workgroups 3.11?

You mean there were 2 versions of 3.11 then? This is what I can infer
from what you wrote. You've got me totally confused now.

I've double checked. Well, I'll be damned! ;-(

Yes, of course you are right as the following web page proves...
http://toastytech.com/guis/win311.html

 

[John]

3 and 3.11 which as I remember weren't too bad for their day, ah the
joys of a 42 meg HDD, 2 meg of RAM and programs which would fit on one
floppy disc.

[]
Even 3.0 wasn't _bad_, given the hardware available, though it was
slow if
your hardware was!

My 386 SX 16 ran it well, I borrowed, cough, 3.11 from work.

I think my first PC was an American Megatrands bought from an import
company on the Tottenham Court Road in London, it cost £898 in about
1992,not an inconsiderable sum back then, at least it stopped me
smoking, the hook I promised to pay for it.

Mike

OH!!! I had a DX400 (??) something or other (can't remember the exact
designation), running Windows for work groups on a *PAIR* of 400MB (MB
*not* GB) hard drives with streaming tape backup ... that was the life
... Course it cost an arm, leg, first born or whatever elsed you
where willing to sacrifice at the time!

Good stuff back in the day, DOS6.22 that it ran on proved equally
useful, maybe even more so to me at least.

Good times,
John

 

[Ken Blake]

You mean there was not only a Windows 3.11 but also a Windows for
Workgroups 3.11?

Yes.



You mean there were 2 versions of 3.11 then?

Well, I wouldn't put it that way. I'd rather say that both Windows and
Windows for Workgroups had 3.11 versions.

 

[...winston]

South Africa
Windows 7 Full Versions
http://www.kalahari.com/electronics/software/5717.aspx

Microsoft Store
Windows 7 Full and Upgrade
35 languages
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/cat/categoryID.44066700




--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Steve Hayes" wrote in message

I would, but first I'd have to buy a Fisher-Price computer.

Seriously, Microsoft seems to alternate really horrible unusable
(RHU) versions of Windows with merely annoying (MA) ones.

RHU - Windows 8
MA - Windows 7
RHU - Windows Vista
MA - Windows XP
RHU - Windows ME
MA - Windows 98
RHU - Microsoft Bob
MA - Windows 95

Have I forgotten any?

My wife has a laptop that came with Vista installed. She would like to upgrade
it to Windows 7, but the upgrades no longer seem to be available.

 

[Steve Hayes]

As others have explained, you can update and keep your files - I did it
here OK on my old desktop. However, I would seriously think about
copying all needed data (.doc files, photos, etc) to another drive and
doing a complete fresh install, then adding back the data files.

The one thing I want to avoid above all things is doing a complete reinstall.
It is enormously time-consiming, and life's too short for that.

I know it was possible to upgrade without reinstalling, because I saw the
upgrades in the shops two years ago, but they all seem to be sold out now.

But when I needed to replace my desktop computer, I bought a new one without
an operating system and restored my Acronis backups. It took me a few hours to
update drivers, etc, but not the months (if not years) that a fresh instal
would require.

 

[Steve Hayes]

South Africa
Windows 7 Full Versions
http://www.kalahari.com/electronics/software/5717.aspx

I can get a full version anywhere. It's the upgrade from Vista that is hard to
find.

Microsoft Store
Windows 7 Full and Upgrade
35 languages
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/cat/categoryID.44066700

But it does not make it clear whether the prices are for the full or upgrade
version.

 

[Bob Henson]

I must admit I'd rather go for the idea of a fresh install, after saving
my user files to an external HD of course. Though with laptops I think
it is always a good idea to see if the manufacturer can supply the
upgrade W7 OS disc as it would also contain the right drivers for the
mobo, the graphics card etc etc. Of course it all depends on the cost
whether an older laptop is worth upgrading to a newer OS.

No idea what the prices are in the UK these days, but when I built my
desktop just over a year ago I had to pay £110 (US$180.00) for W7Pro.
And that was the OEM version. Heaven knows how much the full retail
version would have been. It just doesn't make sense when one can buy a
brand new laptop with W7 preinstalled for £250.--
choro
*****
PS. I know life's not fair but this is ridiculous!

This place Has Windows 7 for $60 (£37.19 UK)

https://completesoftwarecenter.com/windows7.php

It says Home Premium, but when I came to download, it was Windows 7 Pro
- as shown in the little gold disk on the page. It came without SP1, and
needed to download more updates (several years worth) than you can shake
a stick at - but it was cheap, and legal.


--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK


Can you be a closet claustrophobic?

 

[choro]

This place Has Windows 7 for $60 (£37.19 UK)

https://completesoftwarecenter.com/windows7.php

It says Home Premium, but when I came to download, it was Windows 7 Pro
- as shown in the little gold disk on the page. It came without SP1, and
needed to download more updates (several years worth) than you can shake
a stick at - but it was cheap, and legal.

Thanks a million. At these prices I can start thinking seriously about
updating my Vista laptop to Windows 7. Never liked that damned Vista.

 

[choro]

I can get a full version anywhere. It's the upgrade from Vista that is hard to
find.

Tried accessing web page but got this...

"We're sorry. The site you are attempting to access is restricted in
your region."

Sh*t!

 

[Bob Henson]

Thanks a million. At these prices I can start thinking seriously about
updating my Vista laptop to Windows 7. Never liked that damned Vista.

I used to run Linux on the laptop, but I was in hospital for a while
early in the year, and my son brought me a dongle so I could stay in
touch - of course, the software would only run under Windows! I did get
it to work under Linux later, but it took forever to set up. Anyway, to
get it working in hospital, we put the preview version of Windows 8 on
the laptop as a dual boot - the only one we could get a) free and b)
quickly. It was so bad that I wanted to get rid a.s.a.p., and it ran out
of date next year anyway - which is why I did a bit of searching round,
and found this company. There may be others even cheaper, but I'd be a
tad suspicious if they were. I did get fed up waiting (it's an old, slow
laptop) for all the updates to download, but at that price it would be
churlish to complain too much At my age, Windows 7 will probably be
my last version, unless Windows 8 is such a disaster that Microsoft have
to bring out a Windows 9 quickly - even then, I'm unlikely to change,
Windows 7 is by far the best version yet.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK


Forced to choose between two evils - pick the one you haven't tried before!

 

[Gordonbp]

Win 3.11 was the network capable version, wasn't it?--
choro
*****

Windows for Workgroups IIRC.....

 

[Gordonbp]

but not the months (if not years) that a fresh instal
would require.

Eh? You're not SERIOUS are you? The last time (about a month ago) I did
a fresh install of Window 7 it took all of about four hours - INCLUDING
all updates and re-instatement of all data and MS Office 2010.
If it really does take you that long then you're doing something really
wrong...

 

[...winston]

Choose the version, click 'Shop this edition'
- the prices and option for full or upgrade (if available in your area)
should show up.

Note: You'll have to test it (since I'm in the US) and find out if
geographical limits are involved.
Also not sure if payment methods are restricted to credit cards for a given
geographical area.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Steve Hayes" wrote in message

South Africa
Windows 7 Full Versions
http://www.kalahari.com/electronics/software/5717.aspx

I can get a full version anywhere. It's the upgrade from Vista that is hard
to
find.

Microsoft Store
Windows 7 Full and Upgrade
35 languages
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/cat/categoryID.44066700

But it does not make it clear whether the prices are for the full or upgrade
version.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

Eh? You're not SERIOUS are you? The last time (about a month ago) I
did a fresh install of Window 7 it took all of about four hours -
INCLUDING all updates and re-instatement of all data and MS Office
2010. If it really does take you that long then you're doing
something really wrong...

It only takes a few hours to install Windows and major applications, but
it takes months or years to add all the little things and do all the
little tweaks that make it comfortable and familiar. It's like breaking
in a new pair of shoes.

 

[Steve Hayes]

Eh? You're not SERIOUS are you? The last time (about a month ago) I did
a fresh install of Window 7 it took all of about four hours - INCLUDING
all updates and re-instatement of all data and MS Office 2010.
If it really does take you that long then you're doing something really
wrong...

Well if MS Office is the only software you use, I suppose it would be that
easy. Only one program to reinstal.

By Winsows 7 puts stuff in differen places from XP, and possibly from Vista
for all I know, So I'm not sure how you reinstate all data, when the Windows 7
documentation is practically non-existent, and finding out where it puts stuff
is not at all easy.

 

[Ken Blake]

But when I needed to replace my desktop computer, I bought a new one without
an operating system and restored my Acronis backups. It took me a few hours to
update drivers, etc, but not the months (if not years) that a fresh instal
would require.

If that's the case, you've been extremely lucky. A backup from one
computer will normally not run on a different one, and a clean
installation is required.

 

[Ken Blake]

Eh? You're not SERIOUS are you? The last time (about a month ago) I did
a fresh install of Window 7 it took all of about four hours - INCLUDING
all updates and re-instatement of all data and MS Office 2010.
If it really does take you that long then you're doing something really
wrong...

Well, "months (if not years)" has to be an overstatement as far as I'm
concerned, but for me, it's much longer than four hours. I've done
clean reinstallation of Windows only once, and it took me two days. I
had a lot more software to install than just Microsoft Office, and I
had many programs with custom configurations to set, etc.

 

[Ken Blake]

Windows for Workgroups IIRC.....

That's not correct. See my earlier messages in this thread. There was
a Windows for Workgroups 3.11 *and* a Windows 3.11.

 

[Char Jackson]

But when I needed to replace my desktop computer, I bought a new one without
an operating system and restored my Acronis backups. It took me a few hours to
update drivers, etc, but not the months (if not years) that a fresh instal
would require.

As others have said, if a fresh install (OS, apps, tweaks) takes more
than about 4-6 hours, you're probably jumping into it unprepared.
Likewise, if installing or updating drivers takes a few hours by
itself, something is definitely out of whack.

Having said that, it's also true that some people just work slower
than others. But still, a MONTH? Clearly an exaggeration.

 

[Char Jackson]

Tried accessing web page but got this...

"We're sorry. The site you are attempting to access is restricted in
your region."

Sh*t!

Use a proxy based in the country of your choice.