Gaining control in w-7

R

RH Breener

Jeff Layman said:
Not sure that I'd want to stop it completely, even though it is a pain at
times. If you need to change a file or do something to it that Win7 won't
allow you to, then there is always the option to boot with a Linux live CD
and use its file manager do what you want to with that file.
Are you telling me Linux will allow me to switch a .dll in WindowsMail on
W7.
May even be possible to make registry changes with it as, AFAIU, much of
the registry is just a text file (I believe that the security settings are
encoded, so you can't change those in any meaningful way). I've never
tried it, so others who post here may know if it's [possible or not.

Just remember that if you do make changes, you might render your PC
unbootable.
I'm not looking to edit the registry, just switch a .dll. I don't think
Linux would help and I know nothing about Linux.
 
C

Char Jackson

In WindowsExplorer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fairness to Bob, you should have mentioned that you use a different
keyboard for each application.

Me, I just use one keyboard for everything. That way, my Delete key is
always right where it should be.
 
B

Bob Hatch

In WindowsExplorer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, highlight the file and press the delete key. This is not rocket
science.


--
I do not carry a gun hoping that
I'll be able to shoot someone, anymore than
I carry a jack hoping I'll have a flat
tire.
Me.
 
B

Bob Hatch

In fairness to Bob, you should have mentioned that you use a different
keyboard for each application.

Me, I just use one keyboard for everything. That way, my Delete key is
always right where it should be.
Now that's funny. :)


--
I do not carry a gun hoping that
I'll be able to shoot someone, anymore than
I carry a jack hoping I'll have a flat
tire.
Me.
 
J

John Williamson

Yes, highlight the file and press the delete key. This is not rocket
science.
Or, there's the complicated version, highlight the file(s) by
(Optionally ctrl or shift) left clicking on it or them, then right click
on it or them and use the "delete" option, just as I've been doing since
Windows 95. It also works in most versions of Linux.

Highlighting a file name with the mouse and pressing the delete key also
works exactly the same way in DOSSHELL. It was a bit harder in DOS 4 and
earlier, you needed to use Norton Commander or something similar, as
DOSSHELL won't work unless you've got DOS 5 or later.
 
R

RH Breener

Paul said:
The future of computing is totally locked down systems.
(Akin to "Terminal - Mainframe" computing, using small
display devices and the Cloud.)

In Windows 8, there'll be two streams. Win RT for ARM based tablets.
And Windows 8 for Intel processor desktops etc.

Win RT machines, will not be allowed to boot an alternate OS.
There will be an "app store", just like the competition uses,
and developer products will go through that "gate" to get
to customers. I don't think you're even allowed to use
an alternate web browser in Win RT.

If you don't like what you've currently got, there's always
something new coming along to make you appreciate the past.
I happen to like the freedom to trash my machines with the
silly things I do, but it doesn't look like that's the future.

*******

In the future, all the cool cats, will be using $35 open source computers.
The next generation of users know where it's at - wires all over the
table, circuit boards laying open to the air...

http://www.raspberrypi.org/


http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/emilyage5-e1340190910746-225x300.jpg

That cat's got a pretty kick-ass game of Pong going there :)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/01/raspberry-pi-impressions-the-35-linux-computer-and-tinker-toy/

Paul
Unfortunately my software wont work on Linux. I don't think it'll ever
outsell Windows.
 
K

Ken Springer

I am so f*&^%$# mad, I'm still not getting anywhere with removing the
msoe.dll file in WindowsMail on W7 to replace it with the one I need to
replace it with.
Have you considered using one of the various Linux Live CD's out there,
and using Linux to replace the DLL file?

--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 13.0.1
Thunderbird 13.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.2.2
 
R

RH Breener

Paul said:
Are you following the tutorial ?

It makes mention of a Take Ownership thing I think.

You can add Take Ownership to your right-click context menu, for
bludgeoning stuff that gets in the way.
Oh, sorry. I already installed that but it never showed up on the
right-click menu as a choice. I can try downloading it again but have
little hope it'll show up there the second time.
 
C

Char Jackson

Have you considered using one of the various Linux Live CD's out there,
and using Linux to replace the DLL file?
Considering his admitted knowledge level, I believe that would be a
very bad idea.
 
A

Asger Joergensen

Hi RH

RH said:
Are you telling me Linux will allow me to switch a .dll in WindowsMail on W7.
Yes you can replace a file in windows using Linux, just boot using a Linux
dvd and replace the file in the same way as you would do in a windows with
no security, but do save the old one, in case it doesn't work.


Best regards
Asger-P
http://Asger-P.dk/software
QLaunch, INI-Edit and Color Pick Pro.
 
R

RH Breener

Paul said:
Are you following the tutorial ?

It makes mention of a Take Ownership thing I think.

You can add Take Ownership to your right-click context menu, for
bludgeoning stuff that gets in the way.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html

Isn't bludgeoning fun ? :)

Paul

When I right click on those files there is no Merge to choose. I see they're
registry files but there's no Merge on the right-click menu. I got stuck at
that point. I can't understand the Default Program and extension part. It's
like Chinese, some foreign language and flies right over my head. Too much
tech-speak from that point on.

I don't understand which file extension I'm supposed to change. It lost
me............................
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Considering his admitted knowledge level, I believe that would be a
very bad idea.
+1

Hope he has the recovery DVD handy. It is entertaining though, I think
I'll make popcorn...

--
Zaphod

Adventurer, ex-hippie, good-timer (crook? quite possibly),
manic self-publicist, terrible bad at personal relationships,
often thought to be completely out to lunch.
 
K

Ken Springer

Considering his admitted knowledge level, I believe that would be a
very bad idea.
I wouldn't think it would be that hard to figure out how to copy a
single file. :) He seems to imply he knows how to do to the actual
replacement, just that Win7 won't let him.

--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 13.0.1
Thunderbird 13.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.2.2
 
V

VanguardLH

RH said:
How do I do away with all the irritating and aggravating "permissions"
in W-7? I can't take control of anything and I'm the Administrator.
Are you asking about UAC (User Account Control)?

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-disable-and-turn-off-uac-in-windows-7/
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Turn-User-Account-Control-on-or-off

Found by Google searching on: "windows 7" uac turn off disable

Or are you asking about file permissions? Just because you're an
admin-level user doesn't mean you automatically have permissions to
files owned by other accounts. The owner of the file can add grant you
privileges by either adding your account or the user group to which your
account belongs. Or you, as an admin, can take ownership of the files.
 
P

Paul

RH said:
Oh, sorry. I already installed that but it never showed up on the
right-click menu as a choice. I can try downloading it again but have
little hope it'll show up there the second time.
http://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...37-take-ownership-shortcut-take_ownership.zip

I open things like that with 7ZIP for a look. Or use whatever
archive tool you like to do the same thing.

Add_Take_Ownership.reg
Remove_Take_Ownership.reg

These are registry files.

When I extract the first one, and right click it (in the WinXP
of my current machine), it does list "Merge" as the top item.
I'm not going to Merge it though, because I'm not prepared...

The tutorial says, if no merge option is offered, or clicking
on a .reg file yields no result, try:

"NOTE: If you do not see a Merge option when you right click
on the REG file, then you will need to check in Default Programs
to set the reg file extension to have it's Current Default
program set as Registry Editor (C:\Windows\regedit.exe).
Afterwards, try merging the REG file again."

There is a tutorial for Default Programs, here. You can check
out your .reg association.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/9154-default-programs-associate-file-type-protocol.html

(It might even be possible to open Regedit, and suck in a file
like that. Just a guess.)

Paul
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Um...Gene, my apologies for disagreeing with you, but a given account is
either an administrator or not an administrator. The built-in local
administrator account gains its privileges the same way that other,
non-built-in accounts do: it's a member of the local Administrators group.
....

Having been unable to accomplish things with an administrator account
that I *could* accomplish when I logged on as The Administrator, I must
respectfully disagree with you.
 
B

Bob Hatch

Or, there's the complicated version, highlight the file(s) by
(Optionally ctrl or shift) left clicking on it or them, then right click
on it or them and use the "delete" option, just as I've been doing since
Windows 95. It also works in most versions of Linux.
There's always that, or you can do the highlight stuff with ctrl or
shift, and then press the delete key. :)
Highlighting a file name with the mouse and pressing the delete key also
works exactly the same way in DOSSHELL. It was a bit harder in DOS 4 and
earlier, you needed to use Norton Commander or something similar, as
DOSSHELL won't work unless you've got DOS 5 or later.

--
I do not carry a gun hoping that
I'll be able to shoot someone, anymore than
I carry a jack hoping I'll have a flat
tire.
Me.
 

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