32 GB memory stick

[Mack A. Damia]

Eat plenty of oily fish like herring, mackerel, anchovies etc. Not only
cheap but also very tasty and damn your gout! Me got gout too. Me royal
too! So, I got gout, as Zorba would have said. When the boss aske him:
Are you married? Zorba says: Am I not a man? And is not a man stupid? Of
course I married. Wife, children, house... the full catastrophe! And
then he does the Zorba dance!

Read the book in translation after seeing the film but that was in the
mid 60s. The book is superb actually. And one can learn a lot about life
reading that book.

I am good cook too and I actually enjoy cooking as well as -- but wait
for it --- I love doing the washing up as well. The sound of water
soothes my soul. Psychologically the sound of water has the greatest
calming effect on me. The sound of water flowing in a stream... Nothing
can beat it. My father had a pool with water jetting up and cascading
into the pool with goldfish in it which he had built under the pergola
behind the house.

Actually the back of the house was also the front, if you see what I
mean because it was built on top of a couple of shops and a small
village bakery on a sloping hillside with access from the road going up
the hill so there was no front access but an access from the side with
the front of the house actually at the back!

Sitting or dining under the grapevine and listening to the sound of the
water cascading into the pool was next best thing to being in heaven.
-- choro

I used to tell an old girlfriend that there was something embryonic
about doing the dishes.

I, too, enjoy cooking, although I find it difficult to cook for just
one - myself. I live alone, which I prefer. I am the master of my
domain, and I don't want anybody telling me what to do. I usually buy
quick meals to prepare. I'm up at 3:30 am most days, feed the cat and
myself, watch a little early morning news and go back to bed for a
couple of hours. Seems to work for me.

 

[choro]

[]
Lard is still the favorite choice of cooking oil/fat in Mexico; yet,
Mexicans have one of the longest lifespans among all the peoples of
the world.

Go figure.

Southern Europeans use a lot more oil in cooking than we do (and yet
live longer). Some nation (I forget which) smokes a lot more than we do,
and yet live longer. Etcetera, etcetera - I forget the other examples.

The conclusion is that it's speaking English (of the rightpondian or
leftpondian variety) that dooms us (-:!

It's the lifestyle and the pressures of life. Had a serious heart
operation years ago, and was chatting with one of the doctors and he
said that heart problems are hardly known in the Far East, yet when Far
Easterners come to the UK they become susceptible to heart problems.

You and me both. I'm 64 and last year in March and April I guess I
had a couple of heart attacks. Walked into the hospital on May 30
and had a triple bypass open heart procedure done on June 3.

Did your operation give you a different perspective on life?

Different perspective on life? I guess it must have done though as I
told you I had just been through the greatest upheaval in my life just
before I had the heart attack so I can't really tell.

But I can tell you that from what I heard from someone who also had a
heart operation with our group who had been referred to another hospital
in London, nearly all had been through a depression. So I wouldn't be
surprised if you also have just been or are even now going through a
depression. It is normal, I believe to suffer depression after open
heart surgery.

But do try not be be a couch potato if you can help it. They say that
some exercise is good for you as well as for your heart. But nothing too
strenuous.

You say you have got a cat. That is good. A cat is good company. A dog
would be better still and it would take you walkies. ;-) I am more of a
dog person but as I live on my own I decided not to have a dog. Dogs are
very social animals and they don't like to be left on their own. Dogs
are OK in big households when there is always somebody at home.
Otherwise they become nervous wrecks. You just cannot leave dogs alone
for hours on end. They don't take kindly to it. As for having a cat, the
idea that it can be run over or be involved in an accident just puts me
off.

In recent weeks I have been going out almost every day meeting some
friends but it got too much in the end as I had projects and things to
do piling up. So I have decided not to go out every day now which gives
me plenty of time to get things done.

As for girl friends, I haven't had one for three four years now ever
since I broke off with my previous girl friend. She tried to get back
but I just could not go back to where we had left off. I've met one or
two other women since but I just can't seem to make the effort to go
into a relationship yet again. For a while I went out with a very young
girl and was the envy of everyone who saw us together but she has gone
back to her country and that was the end of that. I was old enough to be
her grandfather and she was incredibly beautiful too. Nice girl though.
But I fell for her and the parting was extremely painful. I wouldn't
like to go through another episode like that but I seem to go for
younger women and they seem to find me interesting. Why on earth, I
don't know.

If you think I write too long, you are of course right. I did a lot of
writing in my time. Some 8 to 10 thousand words per day for long years
in the sort of job that I did. When I am in the mood, I can churn out
quite a lot of rubbish! But I don't get paid for it now. :-(
-- choro

 

[Mack A. Damia]

On 20/11/2011 14:05, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[]
Lard is still the favorite choice of cooking oil/fat in Mexico; yet,
Mexicans have one of the longest lifespans among all the peoples of
the world.

Go figure.

Southern Europeans use a lot more oil in cooking than we do (and yet
live longer). Some nation (I forget which) smokes a lot more than we do,
and yet live longer. Etcetera, etcetera - I forget the other examples.

The conclusion is that it's speaking English (of the rightpondian or
leftpondian variety) that dooms us (-:!

It's the lifestyle and the pressures of life. Had a serious heart
operation years ago, and was chatting with one of the doctors and he
said that heart problems are hardly known in the Far East, yet when Far
Easterners come to the UK they become susceptible to heart problems.

You and me both. I'm 64 and last year in March and April I guess I
had a couple of heart attacks. Walked into the hospital on May 30
and had a triple bypass open heart procedure done on June 3.

Did your operation give you a different perspective on life?

Different perspective on life? I guess it must have done though as I
told you I had just been through the greatest upheaval in my life just
before I had the heart attack so I can't really tell.

I came face-to-face with my mortality. I realized how fleeting life
is - something I had not thought about previously.

But I can tell you that from what I heard from someone who also had a
heart operation with our group who had been referred to another hospital
in London, nearly all had been through a depression. So I wouldn't be
surprised if you also have just been or are even now going through a
depression. It is normal, I believe to suffer depression after open
heart surgery.

I'm a Vietnam veteran and served in Saigon in 1968. I received a
serious head injury as a result, and I have suffered from dysthemia
(chronic depression) for all of my adult life. I get all my medical
care through the Veterans' Health Care Service in San Diego.

But do try not be be a couch potato if you can help it. They say that
some exercise is good for you as well as for your heart. But nothing too
strenuous.

I realize I have to get out there and start walking. Maybe I'm at a
point in my life where I just don't give a damn.

You say you have got a cat. That is good. A cat is good company. A dog
would be better still and it would take you walkies. ;-) I am more of a
dog person but as I live on my own I decided not to have a dog. Dogs are
very social animals and they don't like to be left on their own. Dogs
are OK in big households when there is always somebody at home.
Otherwise they become nervous wrecks. You just cannot leave dogs alone
for hours on end. They don't take kindly to it. As for having a cat, the
idea that it can be run over or be involved in an accident just puts me
off.

Dogs need too much care; cats fend for themselves. We had a dog while
I was growing up, but I've always had cats - usually abandoned
long-hairs - all of my adult life. I had a Silver Persian that I
found abandoned about thirty years ago. Since I'm David, he became
"David's Lloyd George". Found an abandoned Himmilayan in the early
1990s who turned out to have a pedigree. Sir Percy Cat - original
name, "Berryhill's Dewey Morn" Used for breeding. Entered him in a
cat show, and he won first prize. This latest one adopted me this
past January 5. It was a kitten that just appeared on my porch -
can't figure out how she got their. Named her "Pookie".

In recent weeks I have been going out almost every day meeting some
friends but it got too much in the end as I had projects and things to
do piling up. So I have decided not to go out every day now which gives
me plenty of time to get things done.

I live in a deserted community - don't have many friends at all. I'm
on the beach and own a gorgeous home overlooking the Pacific Ocean.
Hate to give it up, but there's nothing going on down here. Trouble
is, I could move somewhere and experience the same thing. I'm not
much of a social animal, and that's what is good about the Internet
and Usenet.

As for girl friends, I haven't had one for three four years now ever
since I broke off with my previous girl friend. She tried to get back
but I just could not go back to where we had left off. I've met one or
two other women since but I just can't seem to make the effort to go
into a relationship yet again. For a while I went out with a very young
girl and was the envy of everyone who saw us together but she has gone
back to her country and that was the end of that. I was old enough to be
her grandfather and she was incredibly beautiful too. Nice girl though.
But I fell for her and the parting was extremely painful. I wouldn't
like to go through another episode like that but I seem to go for
younger women and they seem to find me interesting. Why on earth, I
don't know.

I was married twice. Once in my 20s but we were too young - lasted
eight years without children. Split was uneventful. Married an
American gal down here in 2002. She turned out to be an alcoholic
with a serious bi-polar disorder. Much trouble including the cops. I
left her and filed for separation. While I was visiting my family in
Pennsylvania in November, 2002, I got an email from neighbors telling
me that she had been killed in an automobile accident while driving
drunk. So that was that. Haven't ventured back into the dating scene
again, but I go out woth my housekeeper several times a week for a
nice meal. I've had a pretty interesting and eventful life. Hope
there's more to come.

If you think I write too long, you are of course right. I did a lot of
writing in my time. Some 8 to 10 thousand words per day for long years
in the sort of job that I did. When I am in the mood, I can churn out
quite a lot of rubbish! But I don't get paid for it now. :-(

If I get on topic I know about, I can write a lot, too. I am
published in several academic journals and wrote a doctoral
disseration. Topic was the analysis of school-based community service
programs as an example of political participation. Closest I could
get to advocating violent revolution.

 

[Ed Cryer]

It is Dvo, then r with a haÄek (hachek), followed by an a with an accent
(which in Czech is a long mark), and then a k.

Given the variability of character set support here, I'll have to give
up on using the correct characters

A few American dictionaries have an entry for hacek, with or without the
eponymous hacek The a in hacek is long also, háÄek in Czech. The
word looked OK as I typed it, sorry about the variable character sets...

You're playing the very devil with character-encoding, Gene.
You started with Central European (ISO-8859-2) but this latest is in
Baltic (ISO-8859-4). And, of course, the usual mix-ups have ensued in
the dilemma of those who reply using sender's format, and those who don't.

Ed

 

[Chris S.]

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...C6E724AF471231278BC7EA13&first=91&FORM=IDFRIR

I used to dig for these at Puget Sound...

Chris

 

[Mack A. Damia]

Thanks! Yes, that's it!

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...C6E724AF471231278BC7EA13&first=91&FORM=IDFRIR

I used to dig for these at Puget Sound...

Chris

[]
But still, I am what I am and cannot go back.

Ah, that song about the giant vegetable, of which I think Shirley Bassey
gives the best performance.

(snip)

Speaking of vegetables, my housekeeper and I went to a Chinese
restaurant in Ensenada for lunch last week.

After we left she was laughing and blushing at the same time, and she
asked me if I' had seen the (%$&^*) clams in the tank. The word she
used was unintelligible and sounded something like "Giant". I hadn't
noticed the tank.

A few days later we went back, and I had a good look. There was a
huge tank in the corner with very large ordinary looking clams - maybe
a couple of dozen. But coming out of each clam was a large white
cylindrical object about 12 inches to 24 inches long. I must tell you
that it closely resembled a penis.

According to my housekeeper, they are difficult to find, and the
Chinese prize them. The flesh of the clam sticking out of the shell
is cut up and used in various dishes. But I tell you in all honesty,
with the large shell and this long white thing sticking out, it just
looked like a testicle with a giant penis.

The Mexicans make a joke about them resembling the male anatomy.

I've looked for a photo under "clam" and "giant clam" but can't find
anything remotely similar. Anybody know about this seafood creature?

 

[Peter Jason]

On 20/11/2011 20:21, Robin Bignall wrote:

On 19/11/2011 18:59, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[]
But still, I am what I am and cannot go back.

Ah, that song about the giant vegetable, of which I think Shirley Bassey
gives the best performance.

I like(d) Shirley Bassey especially when she was younger and used to
appear in that low cut dress at the back; cut down to her you know what!
But can't recollect the song that is on your mind.

"Hey, Big Spender" was one of the songs where she wore such a dress.

Hey, of course I remember that one! Who doesn't?
You could see her "cheeks" in that dress! And what "cheeks"!
-- choro


These days I love listening to Edith Piaf. Incredible chanteuse of
French chanson! But if you like singing you should also listen to
Cantaloupe, Songs of the Auvergne, sung by Vittorio de Los Angeles. I've
got two other versions on CD but her version is best.

Also Google for...

Schubert lieder Peter Schreier Hermann Prey Gerald Moore

Dietrich Fischer Diskau will also show up, of course. And Gerald Moore
is a superb accompanist of the highest calibre.
-- choro


However, there is one thing I can say and that is that being engaged
in this exchange of views on these two unlikely newsgroups has given
me a lot of pleasure.

Me too. Though I can't help wondering what the other denizens are
thinking, especially of the Windows one!
[]

Many of the classic performers are on uTube.....

This is of course a classic. Need to say any more?

Ian Bostridge sings superbly but I have got just one niggle! His voice
lacks gravitas. But the pianist, the pianist!!! Who is that pianist? He
is superb! Incredible.

& look at this... (wait for the fugue.)

Sorry. No. Not my cup of tea. Second rate piano. Too much sustain.
Second rate recording. You can't beat Glen Gould for this type of music...

I know I am a hard taskmaster. But then that's me. But listen to Glen
Gould and how the notes come out nice and crisp and the melody sings
even when the melody line is in spaced out chords. You can discern the
melody in the chords whereas with a lesser pianist those chords would
lose their melodic line.

Surely Glenn Gould plays like a robot!

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Geez, I had forgotten about that!

I read it too, maybe a half century ago, and no, I don't remember the
title or author (or the magazine) either :-(

Ah, I think I read it in a book. And I don't _think_ it was Manly Wade
Wellman, as I don't recognise that name at all - though if it was a
collection of assorted authors, I could have easily forgotten it; it was
decades ago in my case too.

But it's more likely to have been one of Asimov, Clarke, Niven, Aldiss,
Harrison, in descending order of probability (with a few others). My
tastes were - and still are, though I'm afraid I don't read books any
more - for the "hard" SF rather than the soft. (Meaning reasonably good
science, with any invented technology treated consistently.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Knowledge isnt elitist - that's rubbish! Why are we embarrassed by the idea
that people know things? It's not a conspiracy against the ignorant. Knowing
things is good!" - Jeremy Paxman, RT 14-20 August 2010

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

For the correct spelling of Dvorak, with those funny characters, see
http://www.procantare.org/images/march04_prog_notes.pdf

This I copied from Stumbling Block's posting and it shows up properly
on MY screen...
"BTW, it's Dvo0 >
If you can't see it properly you must set your News Reader to use the
Western-ISO-8859-1 for your Default Character Encoding. At least that's
what I have got mine set to.

You'll find it under...
Tools>Account Settings>Server Settings -- at least in Thunderbird.
-- choro

I fear this ancient Turnpike doesn't (AFAIK) have the ability to select
which set it is using. (But it might and I don't know about it.)
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Knowledge isnt elitist - that's rubbish! Why are we embarrassed by the idea
that people know things? It's not a conspiracy against the ignorant. Knowing
things is good!" - Jeremy Paxman, RT 14-20 August 2010

 

[Char Jackson]

I put in an r with a haèek (hachek) using Character Map - which I got to
by typing ch in the search box (it was time to pull a chain about using
the Start Menu!).

Acknowledged. Chain pulled in this otherwise wacky thread.

 

[choro]

On 20/11/2011 20:21, Robin Bignall wrote:

On 19/11/2011 18:59, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[]
But still, I am what I am and cannot go back.

Ah, that song about the giant vegetable, of which I think Shirley Bassey
gives the best performance.

I like(d) Shirley Bassey especially when she was younger and used to
appear in that low cut dress at the back; cut down to her you know what!
But can't recollect the song that is on your mind.

"Hey, Big Spender" was one of the songs where she wore such a dress.

Hey, of course I remember that one! Who doesn't?
You could see her "cheeks" in that dress! And what "cheeks"!
-- choro


These days I love listening to Edith Piaf. Incredible chanteuse of
French chanson! But if you like singing you should also listen to
Cantaloupe, Songs of the Auvergne, sung by Vittorio de Los Angeles. I've
got two other versions on CD but her version is best.

Also Google for...

Schubert lieder Peter Schreier Hermann Prey Gerald Moore

Dietrich Fischer Diskau will also show up, of course. And Gerald Moore
is a superb accompanist of the highest calibre.
-- choro


However, there is one thing I can say and that is that being engaged
in this exchange of views on these two unlikely newsgroups has given
me a lot of pleasure.

Me too. Though I can't help wondering what the other denizens are
thinking, especially of the Windows one!
[]

Many of the classic performers are on uTube.....

This is of course a classic. Need to say any more?

Ian Bostridge sings superbly but I have got just one niggle! His voice
lacks gravitas. But the pianist, the pianist!!! Who is that pianist? He
is superb! Incredible.

& look at this... (wait for the fugue.)

Sorry. No. Not my cup of tea. Second rate piano. Too much sustain.
Second rate recording. You can't beat Glen Gould for this type of music...

I know I am a hard taskmaster. But then that's me. But listen to Glen
Gould and how the notes come out nice and crisp and the melody sings
even when the melody line is in spaced out chords. You can discern the
melody in the chords whereas with a lesser pianist those chords would
lose their melodic line.

Surely Glenn Gould plays like a robot!

If robots have feelings and emotions and if they can bring them out in
the music, then YES!!!

If you don't play music, and I mean play it at an advanced level, then
please do not poke your nose into subjects you know nothing about! For
then this becomes sort of like a blind man talking about pictures or a
human being born without a dick or a clit talking about orgasmic pleasures!

Sorry but I can be rude at times!

-- choro

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I get it. No K. But the B is a V. No??!
-- choro

Huh?

Don't know if this answers your question, but Bloch is in Romaji.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

[]
BTW, it's Dvoøák.

In my newsreader, both in the original post and as I see it above as I'm
typing this followup, I see Dvo, then a lower case o with a slash
through it, then a acute, then k. In a followup from one of the other
conspirators, the a acute remains, but the o slash is replaced by a
question mark. (I know it's really Dvo r-inverted-circumflex ak, at
least I don't know if there is an accent on the a. Dvo?ak in other words
- though as I pasted that in, it changed to a question mark in this
software, so I don't know if it's going or not.)

It is Dvo, then r with a haèek (hachek), followed by an a with an accent
(which in Czech is a long mark), and then a k.

Given the variability of character set support here, I'll have to give
up on using the correct characters

A few American dictionaries have an entry for hacek, with or without the
eponymous hacek The a in hacek is long also, háèek in Czech. The
word looked OK as I typed it, sorry about the variable character sets...

You're playing the very devil with character-encoding, Gene.
You started with Central European (ISO-8859-2) but this latest is in
Baltic (ISO-8859-4). And, of course, the usual mix-ups have ensued in
the dilemma of those who reply using sender's format, and those who don't.

Ed

I just post in my newsreader's default character set, and I get my
characters from Character Map (in the Arial font).

Well, I'm not sure. I just started looking at what's happening...

If I create a new post, the composition pane indicates Charset =
us-ascii, but this one shows iso-8859-4, and I can't find a place to
change it. Your post that I'm replying to shows UTF-8.

I have never even paid attention to this, assuming it would just work,
but suddenly it looks like I better learn something about how this
newsreader works with fonts (well, maybe I have one idea: badly!).

One more oddity: I post something on anther group that is a weekly
schedule. I usually create a new post, which as above shows us-ascii,
than copy and paste the previous week's text into the body. Just the
text, I thought, but when I do that the charset changes to big5
(whatever that is) - sometimes.

My Default Character Set for posting is weird. I just found its settings
window, and it lists maybe 40 fonts under the rubric "choose the best
matching charset" from that list, and it also gives me a list of
forbidden fonts, along with a way to move fonts from one box to the
other. But what do they mean by best matching?

Btw, big5 is allowed

If I can't figure this one out, I might go back to MesNews :-(

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

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On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:44:48 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[]
BTW, it's Dvoøák.

In my newsreader, both in the original post and as I see it above as I'm
typing this followup, I see Dvo, then a lower case o with a slash
through it, then a acute, then k. In a followup from one of the other
conspirators, the a acute remains, but the o slash is replaced by a
question mark. (I know it's really Dvo r-inverted-circumflex ak, at
least I don't know if there is an accent on the a. Dvo?ak in other words
- though as I pasted that in, it changed to a question mark in this
software, so I don't know if it's going or not.)

It is Dvo, then r with a haèek (hachek), followed by an a with an accent
(which in Czech is a long mark), and then a k.

Given the variability of character set support here, I'll have to give
up on using the correct characters

A few American dictionaries have an entry for hacek, with or without the
eponymous hacek The a in hacek is long also, háèek in Czech. The
word looked OK as I typed it, sorry about the variable character sets...

You're playing the very devil with character-encoding, Gene.
You started with Central European (ISO-8859-2) but this latest is in
Baltic (ISO-8859-4). And, of course, the usual mix-ups have ensued in
the dilemma of those who reply using sender's format, and those who don't.

Ed

I just post in my newsreader's default character set, and I get my
characters from Character Map (in the Arial font).

Well, I'm not sure. I just started looking at what's happening...

If I create a new post, the composition pane indicates Charset =
us-ascii, but this one shows iso-8859-4, and I can't find a place to
change it. Your post that I'm replying to shows UTF-8.

I have never even paid attention to this, assuming it would just work,
but suddenly it looks like I better learn something about how this
newsreader works with fonts (well, maybe I have one idea: badly!).

One more oddity: I post something on anther group that is a weekly
schedule. I usually create a new post, which as above shows us-ascii,
than copy and paste the previous week's text into the body. Just the
text, I thought, but when I do that the charset changes to big5
(whatever that is) - sometimes.

My Default Character Set for posting is weird. I just found its settings
window, and it lists maybe 40 fonts under the rubric "choose the best
matching charset" from that list, and it also gives me a list of
forbidden fonts, along with a way to move fonts from one box to the
other. But what do they mean by best matching?

Btw, big5 is allowed

If I can't figure this one out, I might go back to MesNews :-(

I just took a quick look at a fair sampling of my posts in this thread.
A whole bunch were in us-ascii, then suddenly, they started being in
different charsets, e.g iso-8859-4, but they weren't necessarily the
same as the post I was replying to, in those cases where I compared
them.

Oy weh.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Ah, I think I read it in a book. And I don't _think_ it was Manly Wade
Wellman, as I don't recognise that name at all - though if it was a
collection of assorted authors, I could have easily forgotten it; it was
decades ago in my case too.

I looked at the Manly Wade Wellman book on line. It wasn't that one,
judging by what I read. And AFAICT from the summary I saw, it wasn't
Heinlein's "The Door into Summer". Nothing else resonated with what I
recall.

I do remember the name Manly Wade Wellman, but I recall nothing about
him any more

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Oy weh.

And a second Oy Weh for leaving the headers in my reply.

I turned on headers as part of my investigation (pretentious word, no?),
not knowing they'd be incorporated in the reply.

 

[Peter Jason]

On 21/11/2011 00:32, Peter Jason wrote:

On 20/11/2011 20:21, Robin Bignall wrote:

On 19/11/2011 18:59, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[]
But still, I am what I am and cannot go back.

Ah, that song about the giant vegetable, of which I think Shirley Bassey
gives the best performance.

I like(d) Shirley Bassey especially when she was younger and used to
appear in that low cut dress at the back; cut down to her you know what!
But can't recollect the song that is on your mind.

"Hey, Big Spender" was one of the songs where she wore such a dress.

Hey, of course I remember that one! Who doesn't?
You could see her "cheeks" in that dress! And what "cheeks"!
-- choro


These days I love listening to Edith Piaf. Incredible chanteuse of
French chanson! But if you like singing you should also listen to
Cantaloupe, Songs of the Auvergne, sung by Vittorio de Los Angeles. I've
got two other versions on CD but her version is best.

Also Google for...

Schubert lieder Peter Schreier Hermann Prey Gerald Moore

Dietrich Fischer Diskau will also show up, of course. And Gerald Moore
is a superb accompanist of the highest calibre.
-- choro


However, there is one thing I can say and that is that being engaged
in this exchange of views on these two unlikely newsgroups has given
me a lot of pleasure.

Me too. Though I can't help wondering what the other denizens are
thinking, especially of the Windows one!
[]

Many of the classic performers are on uTube.....

This is of course a classic. Need to say any more?

Ian Bostridge sings superbly but I have got just one niggle! His voice
lacks gravitas. But the pianist, the pianist!!! Who is that pianist? He
is superb! Incredible.

& look at this... (wait for the fugue.)

Sorry. No. Not my cup of tea. Second rate piano. Too much sustain.
Second rate recording. You can't beat Glen Gould for this type of music...

I know I am a hard taskmaster. But then that's me. But listen to Glen
Gould and how the notes come out nice and crisp and the melody sings
even when the melody line is in spaced out chords. You can discern the
melody in the chords whereas with a lesser pianist those chords would
lose their melodic line.

Surely Glenn Gould plays like a robot!

If robots have feelings and emotions and if they can bring them out in
the music, then YES!!!

If you don't play music, and I mean play it at an advanced level, then
please do not poke your nose into subjects you know nothing about! For
then this becomes sort of like a blind man talking about pictures or a
human being born without a dick or a clit talking about orgasmic pleasures!

Sorry but I can be rude at times!

Tsk...! I studied piano long ago, and Glenn Gould plays like a piano
roll; perfect, mechanical and dull. And too fast too. If you want
to hear good keyboard Bach, try Edwin Fischer. For Beethoven, Wilhelm
Kempff, Claudio Arrau, Backhaus, and maybe Barenboim. Now you know.

 

[choro]

Huh?

Don't know if this answers your question, but Bloch is in Romaji.

That's interesting. I was listening to my Watch List on YouTube while
trying to go through my NewsGroups and guess what was playing as I came
across your response... Csardas by Monti which in my younger days I used
to play as a bird puller! It never failed in attracting birds!
-- choro

 

[choro]

For the correct spelling of Dvorak, with those funny characters, see
http://www.procantare.org/images/march04_prog_notes.pdf

This I copied from Stumbling Block's posting and it shows up properly
on MY screen...
"BTW, it's Dvo0 >
If you can't see it properly you must set your News Reader to use the
Western-ISO-8859-1 for your Default Character Encoding. At least
that's what I have got mine set to.

You'll find it under...
Tools>Account Settings>Server Settings -- at least in Thunderbird.
-- choro

I fear this ancient Turnpike doesn't (AFAIK) have the ability to select
which set it is using. (But it might and I don't know about it.)
[]

The second option is the more likely one. But in this day and age I
can't understand why they can't write programs that will automatically
select the character encoding used and automatically display the correct
characters. But I guess we are not far off that target.
-- choro

 

[choro]

On 21/11/2011 00:32, Peter Jason wrote:

On 20/11/2011 20:21, Robin Bignall wrote:

On 19/11/2011 18:59, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: []

Surely Glenn Gould plays like a robot!

If robots have feelings and emotions and if they can bring them out in
the music, then YES!!!

If you don't play music, and I mean play it at an advanced level, then
please do not poke your nose into subjects you know nothing about! For
then this becomes sort of like a blind man talking about pictures or a
human being born without a dick or a clit talking about orgasmic pleasures!

Sorry but I can be rude at times!

Tsk...! I studied piano long ago, and Glenn Gould plays like a piano
roll; perfect, mechanical and dull. And too fast too. If you want
to hear good keyboard Bach, try Edwin Fischer. For Beethoven, Wilhelm
Kempff, Claudio Arrau, Backhaus, and maybe Barenboim. Now you know.

I realize that there are other pianists of the highest caliber but
please to not classify Glen Gould as a piano roll player! His Bach
recordings are among some of the finest.
-- choro