Windows Mail

[Stewart]

Windows Mail sure seems like a kludge of a program. Outlook Express
seemed to be much better/faster/more configurable. I know there are
plenty of other 3rd party mail programs available, but has anyone been
able to install OE in W7?

 

[Gordon]

Windows Mail sure seems like a kludge of a program. Outlook Express
seemed to be much better/faster/more configurable. I know there are
plenty of other 3rd party mail programs available, but has anyone been
able to install OE in W7?

No. Neither can you install Windows Mail either.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Windows Mail sure seems like a kludge of a program. Outlook Express
seemed to be much better/faster/more configurable. I know there are
plenty of other 3rd party mail programs available, but has anyone been
able to install OE in W7?

Outlook Express was a part of Internet Explorer 6 and that program is not
compatible with Win7.

 

[Thip]

Windows Mail sure seems like a kludge of a program. Outlook Express
seemed to be much better/faster/more configurable. I know there are
plenty of other 3rd party mail programs available, but has anyone been
able to install OE in W7?

You need to read the thread "Windows 7 email client." OE won't work in 7
but Windows Live Mail (not Windows Mail) is a viable alternative.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

No. Neither can you install Windows Mail either.

I'm on a Win7 machine. Look at my message headers. <w>

 

[Gordon]

I'm on a Win7 machine. Look at my message headers. <w>

Who would want to? Yes I have seen some kludgy work-arounds to enable WM but
WLM is superior IMHO....

 

[Chris Sidener]

I'm on a Win7 machine. Look at my message headers. <w>

And mine as well...

Chris

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Who would want to? Yes I have seen some kludgy work-arounds to enable WM
but WLM is superior IMHO....

I am using it for news only. Like OE, it can check for new messages and
download them without having to Sync manually. Nice to be able to just
glance over and see if there are new messages. Can't do that with WLMail.
I don't understand why they did away with that.

Also, I don't care for the tiny little triangle to expand threads as
opposed to the larger + box.

 

[FiOS-Dave]

Sure.
Just run Windows XP in a Virtual Machine...
Dave

 

[Roland Schweiger]

"Gordon"

No. Neither can you install Windows Mail either.

YES you can install WINDOWS MAIL in Windows7.

You need to copy the files

winmail.exe
msoe.dll

from a Windows Vista machine.

(be careful there are 32bin and 64bit versions)

Then paste to appropriate directory on Win7.

But first you must grant yourself full access to the directories
and delete the old files on win7.

It works, i have it running myself.

greetings

Roland Schweiger

 

[WSZsr]

AMEN!!

Who would want to? Yes I have seen some kludgy work-arounds to enable WM
but WLM is superior IMHO....

 

[Mark F.]

Yes I am running it right now..

 

[Stewart]

I am using it for news only. Like OE, it can check for new messages
and download them without having to Sync manually. Nice to be able
to just glance over and see if there are new messages. Can't do that
with WLMail. I don't understand why they did away with that.

Also, I don't care for the tiny little triangle to expand threads as
opposed to the larger + box.

Was there a DL for WM to install in W7? I really don't care for the
WLM handling of newsgroups either (don't much care for the mail
interface either)...

 

[Bert Coules]

YES you can install WINDOWS MAIL in Windows7.

I for one would appreciate a more detailed guide as to exactly how to do
this; I'm not getting on well with Live Mail at all.

Bert

 

[Bruce Hagen]

I for one would appreciate a more detailed guide as to exactly how to do
this; I'm not getting on well with Live Mail at all.

Bert

First, you need access to a Vista machine.

On the W7 machine, find the "Windows Mail" folder in Program Files. Rename
it to "OldWindows Mail" as a precaution.

Using a Flash or CD, copy the "Windows Mail" folder in its entirety from
the Vista machine.

Go back to the Win7 machine and copy the "Windows Mail" from the Flash or
CD to a location in Program Files.

Open it and right click on the WinMail.exe file and send a shortcut to the
Desktop. Done.

A few caveats: EML and NWS files will not open in WinMail, but rather
another e-mail client that you will need to have. WinMail also cannot be
made the default mail or news client.

See this as well:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html

 

[Bert Coules]

Bruce,

Many thanks for the detailed and speedy reply.

WinMail also cannot be made the default mail or news client.

Oh, that's something of a pity; I was hoping that it could.

I still might try it, but what I really hope is that someone comes up wth a
third-part email and newsreader for Win7 that emulates the look and feel of
Outlook Express.

Bert

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Bruce,

Many thanks for the detailed and speedy reply.


Oh, that's something of a pity; I was hoping that it could.

I still might try it, but what I really hope is that someone comes up
wth a third-part email and newsreader for Win7 that emulates the look
and feel of Outlook Express.

Bert

Have you tried Thunderbird? It's pretty darn close to OE. You can run it
alongside of WLMail to test it if you want to.

Set both programs to Leave a copy of messages on the server. Set one only
to Delete messages after X days.

Sent messages will only show in the e-mail program sent from, but both
will receive all messages.

Thunderbird:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

 

[Roland Schweiger]

"Bruce Hagen"

A few caveats: EML and NWS files will not open in WinMail, but rather
another e-mail client that you will need to have. WinMail also cannot be
made the default mail or news client.

There are .reg files that will import part of Windows Vista's registry into
Win7
so that you can make WinMail the default program and so that it will also
open
..eml files and behave as standard eMail client (i.e. it will open a
mailto:[email protected] link on a website).
These don't however behave correctly on every setup,
i managed it on a win7 x86 and win7 x64 machine (both ultimate).

Also if you use a different language than English
(in my case it is German),
you must copy the language files too, when exporting from the original
vista directory, in my case the subdirectory was
DE-de

Generally i also join the opinion that OutlookExpress was a better piece of
software than many people said,
and that WinMail is easier to use than WLM.

However, we will not be able to use these tweeks forever.
The Spam filter no longer works, also the orthography check will not work.
There are no more updates and so on.

WLM is getting better but for the moment i do prefer WinMail.

By the way - the Windows Calendar from Windows Vista can also be exported
and run easily in Win7.

greetings from Dresden.

Roland Schweiger

 

[Ann]

Bruce,

Many thanks for the detailed and speedy reply.

WinMail also cannot be made the default mail or news client.

Oh, that's something of a pity; I was hoping that it could.

I still might try it, but what I really hope is that someone comes up wth a
third-part email and newsreader for Win7 that emulates the look and feel of
Outlook Express.

Bert


Hi Bert .....

Check here for 2 files you can download and apply, which should make winmail
your default email client ...

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5.html

Ann

 

[Isaak]

Your headers indicate you're using Windows Mail, not Outlook Express.


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