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GreyCloud
How do you know that?
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GreyCloud
Actually, I've been in the same situation you have been in.
Only in the Navy dept. and the US Army. After working the Army side, I
applied for a paid for engineering program with the Navy as a civilian.
I aced out 4500 degreed people and got the program. For those that
don't know, this program pays you to learn... and you better be damned
good at it... or else out the door you go. I made it thru the program
in 4 years. It was the only way for me to get a degree as I couldn't
afford it. I busted my butt for it.
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
If filenames are sorted by name, using two-digit years at the startChar Jackson said:
results in then coming out in the order (for example)
00
01
....
12
13
88
....
98
99
which is not chronological order. I'm surprised you ... (-:
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>, Char Jackson
from digital cameras, IrfanView (and probably other such utilities) can,
if you wish, add the date and time extracted from the EXIF data to the
filename.
I don't think I do manual such adding; however, in the case of images
from digital cameras, IrfanView (and probably other such utilities) can,
if you wish, add the date and time extracted from the EXIF data to the
filename.
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Stan Brown
I hate to say it, but we've found an instance when BillW50 was right.
I guess if you fire enough buckshot you're bound to hit something
eventually. Of course, his "could have went" loses whatever points he
might have gained.
Compare these two pairs of file names:
1999-10-01-afile
2002-04-01-bfile
and
02-04-01-bfile
99-10-01-afile
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Wolf K
Well, actually, as Stan stated, year-month-day is one of the two ISO
standards. The other is day-month-year. Both are far more common than
month-day-year, considering there are only 330M Americans and 7B other
humans.
Year-month-day is easy, it's like the numerical left to right, high to
low, pattern.
The mm-dd-yyyy format is exclusively Anglo-Saxon, based on the old
written format of "January 6th, 2010". That's a quirk of English only.
In German for example it would be "1er Januar 2010", in French "1er
Janvier 2010", in Spanish "1o enero 2010", etc.
AFAIK, the US is the only place where it's still considered normal to
write mm-dd-yyyy. Here in Canada, confusion reigns, but "official" dates
are in dd-mm-yy format. Eg, that's the format on the bank's deposit slip
(and the boxes have shaded letters in them to remind you how to do it).
within file names are sorted by character, so the dd/mm/yy and mm-dd-yy
ambiguity will still appear, esp. on an international forum like this one.
Bloody mess, if you ask me. ;-)
standards. The other is day-month-year. Both are far more common than
month-day-year, considering there are only 330M Americans and 7B other
humans.
Year-month-day is easy, it's like the numerical left to right, high to
low, pattern.
The mm-dd-yyyy format is exclusively Anglo-Saxon, based on the old
written format of "January 6th, 2010". That's a quirk of English only.
In German for example it would be "1er Januar 2010", in French "1er
Janvier 2010", in Spanish "1o enero 2010", etc.
AFAIK, the US is the only place where it's still considered normal to
write mm-dd-yyyy. Here in Canada, confusion reigns, but "official" dates
are in dd-mm-yy format. Eg, that's the format on the bank's deposit slip
(and the boxes have shaded letters in them to remind you how to do it).
I've found that this works reliably only with yyyy-mm-dd format. Dates
within file names are sorted by character, so the dd/mm/yy and mm-dd-yy
ambiguity will still appear, esp. on an international forum like this one.
Bloody mess, if you ask me. ;-)
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Wolf K
Bill got excellent training in trouble-shooting and maintaining
electronic gear. The military told him that made him an electrical
engineer. In fact, it made him a top-notch technician. A
technician-plus, according to my reading about the nature and civilian
demand for military tech training. (You may wonder why I read about
things like that. You may continue to wonder.)
How much engineering Bill got from his training depends on how much
theory and design he learned (quite a bit), and on personal qualities
such as curiosity and imagination. But the training does not amount to a
professional engineering degree. There's no problem here, except wounded
amour propre on both sides.
Kwitchyerbitchin!
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Wolf K
On 2/24/2013 1:46 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
[snip the stoopid sniping]
bother getting the grads accredited as PEs. Maybe they should, then this
silly snapping at each other wouldn't happen.
Well, I can dream, can't I?
[snip the stoopid sniping]
Thanks for this clarification. FFFR. Seems that the Army/Navy don't
bother getting the grads accredited as PEs. Maybe they should, then this
silly snapping at each other wouldn't happen.
Well, I can dream, can't I?
G
GreyCloud
Of course, but they are accredited with a degree. It will depend on how
well and fast you can learn. For some it took 8 years to get their
BSEE. Got mine from the University of Washington.
I could've reenlisted and got a degree that way, but I didn't like the
one clause of being an officer and in case of war you have to come in
until age 55.
C
Char Jackson
A Y2K problem isn't (just) a sorting problem, it's an ambiguity problem.
There's no ambiguity in the example above.
C
Char Jackson
Please continue the explanation...
C
Char Jackson
I think you're assuming facts not in evidence, other than Bill's wild
claims. Seriously, with everything you know about Bill, do you believe for a
second anything he says? I certainly don't. The military programs that I've
been through would have weeded him out very early in the screening process.
Remember the saying, "Every village has one"? Well, Bill is ours.
C
Char Jackson
You misunderstood, or I wasn't clear. I was referring to what's common in myWell, actually, as Stan stated, year-month-day is one of the two ISO
standards. The other is day-month-year. Both are far more common than
month-day-year, considering there are only 330M Americans and 7B other
humans.
everyday life, and not ISO standards.
Thank you. So it appears that we're in agreement after all.
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GreyCloud
I don't know Bill.
But this gov web site does explain it a bit:
http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-over.../all-professional-engineering-positions-0800/
Back in 1965 they used to have Engineering Trainee positions. You got
paid to go to college during the regular college season, and you worked
for the government during the summer. The pay wasn't much, but it
worked really well if you were dirt poor but also excelled in their
tests. The only hitch is that you are required to work for the
government for 15 years after the degree. (Or if you get fired).
I don't know if they even have this program any more as I sure can't
find it.
K
Ken Blake
I don't at all think he's an idiot. He's a malicious troll, which is
another thing entirely.
Ken
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Chris S.
He is now reduced to calling me names. I'm through with him.Char Jackson said:
Chris
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Stan Brown
Citation, please?
YYYY-MM-DD is ISO 8601.
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Stan Brown
I should have thought it was obvious. Two-digit years don't sort in
actual chronological order. In your reply to John Gilliver you also
pretended to see that. You're not stupid, so I don't know why you're
being disingenuous.
C
choro
Honestly, if you have to explain such a simple thing to anybody, you
might just as well not bother. --
choro
*****
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Char Jackson
Thanks for the follow-up. I think I see where we parted ways. You seem to be
saying that Y2K was a sorting problem, while in my opinion that was the
least of it.