OT: Question about Office 2013

[Sjouke Burry]

I see that Office 2013 is licensed for installation on one computer
only. Given that Office is updated every three to four years, what
happens if the computer packs in before then? Will there be mechanism
to transfer or to deauthorise one computer and substitute another or
to buy another licence without having to buy the whole package again?

Has anyone here tried Office 2013?

Yes. It works nicely. Its name is Libre Office.(no smiley).

 

[Scott]

I see that Office 2013 is licensed for installation on one computer
only. Given that Office is updated every three to four years, what
happens if the computer packs in before then? Will there be mechanism
to transfer or to deauthorise one computer and substitute another or
to buy another licence without having to buy the whole package again?

Has anyone here tried Office 2013?

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

I see that Office 2013 is licensed for installation on one computer
only. Given that Office is updated every three to four years, what
happens if the computer packs in before then? Will there be mechanism
to transfer or to deauthorise one computer and substitute another or
to buy another licence without having to buy the whole package again?

Has anyone here tried Office 2013?

Other than compatibility with Office 2013, what advantages does it
offer? I have yet to find any that 2010 (which I use at work) offers
over 2003, and little that that offers over 97 Burgundy (which is the
1998 version of 97).
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[Peter Taylor]

I see that Office 2013 is licensed for installation on one computer
only. Given that Office is updated every three to four years, what
happens if the computer packs in before then? Will there be mechanism
to transfer or to deauthorise one computer and substitute another or
to buy another licence without having to buy the whole package again?

You lose the license and it's time to buy another one.

Has anyone here tried Office 2013?

MS wants you to rent Office 365 and pay for a subscription. Every month.
Check out Libre Office. It's free and can be installed as many times and
on as many machines as you like.

 

[Stan Brown]

I see that Office 2013 is licensed for installation on one computer
only. Given that Office is updated every three to four years, what
happens if the computer packs in before then? Will there be mechanism
to transfer or to deauthorise one computer and substitute another or
to buy another licence without having to buy the whole package again?

Has anyone here tried Office 2013?

If you like Windows 8, you'll like it. Otherwise, stay far away.
It offers no functional improvements over Office 2010 as far as I'm
aware, and the single document interface (vintage Windows 3.0) will
take some getting used to.

Oh yes, if you have any third-party add-ins, it will probably be a
while till they work with Office 2013, if they ever do. And the
companies that sell those add-ins may charge you for Office-2013-
compatible versions.

 

[Krypto]

You lose the license and it's time to buy another one.


MS wants you to rent Office 365 and pay for a subscription. Every month.
Check out Libre Office. It's free and can be installed as many times and
on as many machines as you like.

Libre Office +1

 

[Asger Joergensen]

Hi Krypto

Libre Office +1

Is it Libre better then Open Office ??

 

[Bob Henson]

Other than compatibility with Office 2013, what advantages does it
offer? I have yet to find any that 2010 (which I use at work) offers
over 2003, and little that that offers over 97 Burgundy (which is the
1998 version of 97).

Heartily agreed! I too was given versions up to 2007 - so I had to use
them, but could see little or no advantage (in fact a couple of useful
things disappeared). The older ones were much easier to use (the ribbon
idea is hopeless). I suppose if you use some of the really sophisticated
(read that as "unnecessarily complicated") features, you might find an
advantage but, like you, I have yet to see anything better than Office 97.

 

[Peter Taylor]

Hi Krypto


Is it Libre better then Open Office ??

In my opinion, yes.

 

[Peter Taylor]

I have yet to see anything better than Office 97.

The junk filter in Outlook was an improvement.

 

[Bob Henson]

The junk filter in Outlook was an improvement.

Yes, that's true, but I always had a separate external filter so it
didn't help me.

 

[Asger Joergensen]

Hi Peter

In my opinion, yes.

Do you have any words on what the difference are ?

 

[Peter Taylor]

Hi Peter



Do you have any words on what the difference are ?

When Oracle bought Open Office, most of the good programmers left and
founded Libre Office. They did it because Oracle made it clear that they
were not going to make any real improvements.

 

[Asger Joergensen]

Hi Peter

When Oracle bought Open Office, most of the good programmers left
and founded Libre Office. They did it because Oracle made it
clear that they were not going to make any real improvements.

Thanks for the info.
Then I better check it out.

 

[dweebken]

I see that Office 2013 is licensed for installation on one computer
only. Given that Office is updated every three to four years, what
happens if the computer packs in before then? Will there be mechanism
to transfer or to deauthorise one computer and substitute another or
to buy another licence without having to buy the whole package again?

Has anyone here tried Office 2013?

I'm using it, as I got a free upgrade from Office 2010 to Office 2013
since I got 2010 Pro with a new computer I got last week. I'm only a
week into using it but I'm happy with it so far as it has better
integration into Windows 8 for touchscreen use than the Office 2010 that
I used for quite a while before. Colours/skins are more in keeping with
Win 8 theme too.

The license restricting it to the one hardware, never to transfer to
another machine, is a bit of a bummer though, because this is expensive
shit to buy, but I wanted to try the full product, and the Office 360
didn't offer a commercial-use license, which I needed, and I don't want
my business files ever in the cloud.

If you don't need Access and Publisher, and don't need a commercial
license then the 360 might be a viable option.

A couple of people have suggested you could consider Libre Office
instead. If your needs are very basic that might be another (and free)
way to go, but in my experience it doesn't render some of my Office
documents with any great accuracy, so I can't use it. But it costs you
nothing to download and is probably the better of the free alternatives.

 

[ray carter]

I see that Office 2013 is licensed for installation on one computer
only. Given that Office is updated every three to four years, what
happens if the computer packs in before then? Will there be mechanism
to transfer or to deauthorise one computer and substitute another or to
buy another licence without having to buy the whole package again?

Has anyone here tried Office 2013?

Before you buy it, I'd suggest you at least try LibreOffice - for free.
It will probably meet your needs - if not it hasn't cost you anything and
you can proceed with MSOffice.

 

[Ken Blake]

I see that Office 2013 is licensed for installation on one computer
only.
Given that Office is updated every three to four years, what
happens if the computer packs in before then? Will there be mechanism
to transfer or to deauthorise one computer and substitute another or
to buy another licence without having to buy the whole package again?

Assuming that you are talking about buying a retail version, not an
OEM version, the license is for one computer *at a time*. There's no
need to buy another license or to buy anything else. Simply uninstall
it from the old computer (if possible; if the computer died, and you
can't, that's OK) and install it on the new one.

Has anyone here tried Office 2013?

Yes. It's fine, as far as I'm concerned, but, except for the way it
looks, it isn't terribly different from Office 2010. Since you should
be able to buy a copy of Office 2010 for less money (or Office 2007
for even less than 2010), you might want to do that.

Or, as others here have suggested, you might want to get the free
LibreOffice or OpenOffice instead.

I have Microsoft Office 2013 installed here, but except for Outlook
and Excel, I rarely run any of its component programs. For a word
processor, I greatly prefer WordPerfect X6, and that's what I use.

 

[Peter Taylor]

Assuming that you are talking about buying a retail version, not an
OEM version, the license is for one computer*at a time*. There's no
need to buy another license or to buy anything else. Simply uninstall
it from the old computer (if possible; if the computer died, and you
can't, that's OK) and install it on the new one.

Not true anymore:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028...an-licensing-policy-really-means-for-you.html

From the article:

"First, a little background. Purchasing Office 2013 only provides a
license for a single PC (as opposed to up to five PCs with Office 365).
The Office 2013 license goes one step further into the draconian abyss,
though, by specifying that the software is literally tied to the device
it’s installed on. This means you can’t re-install Office 2013 if you
get a new PC.

Let’s state that again: You can never install Office 2013 on a new
PC—even if you own the new PC, and even if you have removed Office 2013
from the original PC. So, if you buy Office 2013 today and install it on
your PC, and then tomorrow your PC is turned into a molten pool of
plastic in a house fire, Microsoft will expect you to purchase a new
copy of Office 2013 for your replacement PC. Seriously."

 

[philo]

Not true anymore:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028...an-licensing-policy-really-means-for-you.html


From the article:

"First, a little background. Purchasing Office 2013 only provides a
license for a single PC (as opposed to up to five PCs with Office 365).
The Office 2013 license goes one step further into the draconian abyss,
though, by specifying that the software is literally tied to the device
it’s installed on. This means you can’t re-install Office 2013 if you
get a new PC.

Let’s state that again: You can never install Office 2013 on a new
PC—even if you own the new PC, and even if you have removed Office 2013
from the original PC. So, if you buy Office 2013 today and install it on
your PC, and then tomorrow your PC is turned into a molten pool of
plastic in a house fire, Microsoft will expect you to purchase a new
copy of Office 2013 for your replacement PC. Seriously."

But if you read the entire article, there appears to be another
interpretation.

 

[James]

Not true anymore:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028...an-licensing-policy-really-means-for-you.html

From the article:

"First, a little background. Purchasing Office 2013 only provides a
license for a single PC (as opposed to up to five PCs with Office 365).
The Office 2013 license goes one step further into the draconian abyss,
though, by specifying that the software is literally tied to the device
it’s installed on. This means you can’t re-install Office 2013 if you
get a new PC.

Let’s state that again: You can never install Office 2013 on a new
PC—even if you own the new PC, and even if you have removed Office 2013
from the original PC. So, if you buy Office 2013 today and install it on
your PC, and then tomorrow your PC is turned into a molten pool of
plastic in a house fire, Microsoft will expect you to purchase a new
copy of Office 2013 for your replacement PC. Seriously."

Also from that same article, the official response from Microsoft also
makes the claim that the Office 2013 licensing is nothing new: “Office
2013 has the same licensing provisions around transferability as the
equivalent Office 2010 package, which was the package purchased by
most Office 2010 customers.” The terms for OEM and Product Key Card
copies include this language:

One Copy per Device. The software license is permanently assigned to
the device on which the software is initially activated. That device
is the “licensed device.”

The article goes on, what's new in Office 2013 is the elimination of
the Product Key Card terms and the removal in the Retail License Terms
of the ability to reassign the license rights for retail copies.

Additional information is on the ZDNet website.

http://www.zdnet.com/big-changes-in...-test-microsoft-customers-loyalty-7000011389/

FWIW, I'm sticking with Office 2007 since I've had computer crashes
which require reinstalls too many times. I can't work in the cloud
since I travel a lot and do't want to risk paying Microsoft for every
crash that is caused by Windows.

This brings up another two questions. Can you use a backup image with
Office 2013? And when (not if) will Microsoft have a one-machine
"locked" license for Windows?