Library enhancements and/or replacement

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:16:25 -0800, Gene E. Bloch

I totally agree.

For you and Ken, I remember in the old days I used to do odd things
like edit a file in vi in a subshell while it was open in vi in a
higher level shell, save from one and then the other as I worked my way
up, then wonder later why my changes had gone away.

It took me a while to catch on to what I was (mis)doing

 

[Char Jackson]

For you and Ken, I remember in the old days I used to do odd things
like edit a file in vi in a subshell while it was open in vi in a
higher level shell, save from one and then the other as I worked my way
up, then wonder later why my changes had gone away.

It took me a while to catch on to what I was (mis)doing

You were an equal opportunity Stumbling Bloch by not exempting
yourself. ;-)

 

[Ken Springer]

On 11/9/12 11:56 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:

Stop using mystifying language and you'll find a very simple solution.
"Library" needs unpacking.
Draw a data dependency chart.
Think outside the box of your attack on the metaphysics of Windows
libraries.

It really is a beginner's job for any experienced programmer.

It finally dawns on me, how the discussion went off in the area of a
database. My use of the word library got interpreted to be the
libraries of, I presume, computer code used to make Windows function.

That was incorrect. I've been referring to the libraries you see
in the Navigation pane of a Windows Explorer window.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 16.0.1
Thunderbird 16.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2

 

[Char Jackson]

On 11/9/12 11:56 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:



It finally dawns on me, how the discussion went off in the area of a
database. My use of the word library got interpreted to be the
libraries of, I presume, computer code used to make Windows function.

That was incorrect. I've been referring to the libraries you see
in the Navigation pane of a Windows Explorer window.

I think that's what everyone assumed, and since that function doesn't
do what you need, the suggestions started flowing.

 

[Rodney Pont]

This has been today's installment of, "Interview With Myself", with
your host, Ed Cryer. ;-)

It did have me scratching my head at first but it's ended with a smile.
Thanks for starting my day with a smile Ed.

 

[Ed Cryer]

On 11/9/12 11:56 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:



It finally dawns on me, how the discussion went off in the area of a
database. My use of the word library got interpreted to be the
libraries of, I presume, computer code used to make Windows function.

That was incorrect. I've been referring to the libraries you see
in the Navigation pane of a Windows Explorer window.

Then you should be severely taken to task as incompetent.


Ed

 

[Ed Cryer]

Then you should be severely taken to task as incompetent.


Ed

The Supreme Council of M&S Inc. did duly hold Session on This Tenth Day
of The Month of November to consider Charges of Heresy levelled against
Snr Ken Springer. Which Charges did maintain that "He did maliciously
and de facto disseminate false Truths anont The Holy Teachings of Our
Most Sanctified & Blessed-by-Eternity Corporation".
The aforementioned Denizen of This Lower Natural World has been found
guilty as charged, and Letters of Enchargement have been passed unto the
Inquisitorial Branch of Mother C that They do immediately place under
House Arrest that Denizen; and do, furthermore, enact from the said
Denizen a full Recantment of his despicable & most unholy Teachings."

Signed by Supremissimus Occupator Sedis M&Sensis,

X

 

[Ken Springer]

Then you should be severely taken to task as incompetent.

H E Double Hockey sticks, I've been incompetent for years! LOL

So many years ago, I thought about being a programmer, but after a
couple quarters of Basic at the local community college, decided that
wasn't for me. These days, I rarely think of computer programming.
Just let me use the thing, and do the things, I want.

"You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were;
and I say, 'Why not?"
George Bernard Shaw


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 16.0.1
Thunderbird 16.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2

 

[Ken Springer]

The Supreme Council of M&S Inc. did duly hold Session on This Tenth Day
of The Month of November to consider Charges of Heresy levelled against
Snr Ken Springer. Which Charges did maintain that "He did maliciously
and de facto disseminate false Truths anont The Holy Teachings of Our
Most Sanctified & Blessed-by-Eternity Corporation".
The aforementioned Denizen of This Lower Natural World has been found
guilty as charged, and Letters of Enchargement have been passed unto the
Inquisitorial Branch of Mother C that They do immediately place under
House Arrest that Denizen; and do, furthermore, enact from the said
Denizen a full Recantment of his despicable & most unholy Teachings."

Signed by Supremissimus Occupator Sedis M&Sensis,

X

LMAO!!! You just made my day for humor, Ed. Thanks!


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 16.0.1
Thunderbird 16.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2

 

[Ed Cryer]

H E Double Hockey sticks, I've been incompetent for years! LOL

So many years ago, I thought about being a programmer, but after a
couple quarters of Basic at the local community college, decided that
wasn't for me. These days, I rarely think of computer programming.
Just let me use the thing, and do the things, I want.

"You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were;
and I say, 'Why not?"
George Bernard Shaw

I think I understand.

Me, on the other hand, I earned my living for almost 20 years as
everything from a systems analyst to applications programmer. I loved
it, and I became pretty good. And that was over a period of "the white
hot heat of the technological revolution". The daily learning-curve was big.

At university I studied Classics, Latin & Greek; but I always hung out
with Science Faculty students, and they used to belittle me as useless
and dusty old school. One of them even invented a game called "Educating
Ed".

When I got accepted by the Civil Service as a trainee programmer, I was
over the moon. And I really, really put everything into trying to
understand and master it all; no doubt (as a psychologist would say) in
a frantic attempt to wipe away the stigma that my old friends had laid
on me.

Ed

 

[Ken Springer]

I think I understand.

Me, on the other hand, I earned my living for almost 20 years as
everything from a systems analyst to applications programmer. I loved
it, and I became pretty good. And that was over a period of "the white
hot heat of the technological revolution". The daily learning-curve was big.

At university I studied Classics, Latin & Greek; but I always hung out
with Science Faculty students, and they used to belittle me as useless
and dusty old school. One of them even invented a game called "Educating
Ed".

When I got accepted by the Civil Service as a trainee programmer, I was
over the moon. And I really, really put everything into trying to
understand and master it all; no doubt (as a psychologist would say) in
a frantic attempt to wipe away the stigma that my old friends had laid
on me.

I became an aircraft mechanic. Then into building maintenance. Now, as
a retirement job, I operate a steam locomotive on a 2' narrow gauge
track. And that's my dream job.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 16.0.1
Thunderbird 16.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2

 

[Char Jackson]

I became an aircraft mechanic. Then into building maintenance. Now, as
a retirement job, I operate a steam locomotive on a 2' narrow gauge
track. And that's my dream job.

I'm glad we all like different things because your dream job would
drive me nuts.

 

[Ed Cryer]

I became an aircraft mechanic. Then into building maintenance. Now, as
a retirement job, I operate a steam locomotive on a 2' narrow gauge
track. And that's my dream job.

Here's a picture of me when I was about 12;
http://www.ecryer.fsnet.co.uk/scot.jpg
(Royal Scot class, LMS)

Ed

 

[Robin Bignall]

Here's a picture of me when I was about 12;
http://www.ecryer.fsnet.co.uk/scot.jpg
(Royal Scot class, LMS)

We didn't have room for a train in the garden so when I was 10 my father
got me a bicycle.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/docrobin/scout.htm

 

[Paul]

Here's a picture of me when I was about 12;
http://www.ecryer.fsnet.co.uk/scot.jpg
(Royal Scot class, LMS)

Ed

This is our idea of a "train". Single car, self-propelled.
Up to three of these cars would be bolted together,
for train travel from the center of the province to one
end. It meant you could take a "day trip" to some
hick town half way along the line, shop for two hours,
then catch the same "train" when it made the return
trip back to the station. Very nice. (Hick town = only
one major department store, so one store to shop in )

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2385/2134221068_a5174a30b5.jpg

The other cool thing, is there were a couple stops outside
the train station. (So you didn't have to drive
all the way to a conventional train station.) There was a
level crossing. No building of any sort. You could stand
there like a fool, at the appropriate hour and minute,
with ticket in hand, and flag down the thing,
and get picked up seemingly in the middle of nowhere.

(The train is still doing the "yard limit" at that point
in its trip, so it isn't stopping from top speed or anything.
Yard limit applies for another couple miles past that point,
then the driver opens the throttle.)

It was the closest thing to bus service, with its own fixed route.
As far as I know, gone with the Dodo bird. It it was
running today, they'd probably charge $200 for a ticket
for a day-return :-(

To go all the way across the country, we used a regular
train, with sleeper cars and the lot. But for short
jaunts, that thing was excellent. As far as I can remember,
it does 60 MPH in open country. No amenities, so pack
a picnic lunch. No "dining car".

Paul

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

[snip]

Most of the time, matters concern one item, but I had a case
where in a uni course where I needed permission to use copyrighted
church material in a presentation. Properly, that chain of E-mails
should have been in both my course mailbox and the my church mailbox.

I think I've figured out that you use a completely non-standard
definition of the word mailbox.

Eh? Mailboxes work that way in Eudora.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[Char Jackson]

[snip]

Most of the time, matters concern one item, but I had a case
where in a uni course where I needed permission to use copyrighted
church material in a presentation. Properly, that chain of E-mails
should have been in both my course mailbox and the my church mailbox.

I think I've figured out that you use a completely non-standard
definition of the word mailbox.

Eh? Mailboxes work that way in Eudora.

I haven't used Eudora so I'm happy to take your word for it. The
question, then, is whether you're able to translate from Eudora-speak
to regular-speak. I can't.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Your newsreader can be configured to treat the above as a signature,
which in turn would allow the rest of us to treat it as a signature.

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

[snip]

Eh? Mailboxes work that way in Eudora.

I haven't used Eudora so I'm happy to take your word for it. The
question, then, is whether you're able to translate from Eudora-speak
to regular-speak. I can't.

I have no idea what you are referring to by a regular-speak
definition for mailbox. What is your definition of "mailbox"?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[Char Jackson]

[snip]

I think I've figured out that you use a completely non-standard
definition of the word mailbox.

Eh? Mailboxes work that way in Eudora.

I haven't used Eudora so I'm happy to take your word for it. The
question, then, is whether you're able to translate from Eudora-speak
to regular-speak. I can't.

I have no idea what you are referring to by a regular-speak
definition for mailbox. What is your definition of "mailbox"?

A mailbox, in this context, resides with your email provider. Mail
addressed to you is delivered to your provider, and in turn they drop
it into your mailbox. At some point, you take action to retrieve that
email, typically by using an email client or a web browser, in some
cases.

Earlier in this thread, you were talking about email that had already
been downloaded and how you wanted it to be in multiple mailboxes.
Once it's downloaded, the mailboxes are no longer part of the picture
unless you're going to turn around and send it to another of your
email addresses or something similar. So perhaps you can see how it
might have been a bit confusing.

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

[snip]

I think I've figured out that you use a completely non-standard
definition of the word mailbox.

Eh? Mailboxes work that way in Eudora.

I haven't used Eudora so I'm happy to take your word for it. The
question, then, is whether you're able to translate from Eudora-speak
to regular-speak. I can't.

I have no idea what you are referring to by a regular-speak
definition for mailbox. What is your definition of "mailbox"?

A mailbox, in this context, resides with your email provider. Mail
addressed to you is delivered to your provider, and in turn they drop
it into your mailbox. At some point, you take action to retrieve that
email, typically by using an email client or a web browser, in some
cases.

They put it in my In mailbox on their server. They filter spam
as well, and that gets put in a spam mailbox. There are other
mailboxes defined as well.

Eudora also allows me to define mailboxes on my system. I have
dozens of them.

Earlier in this thread, you were talking about email that had already
been downloaded and how you wanted it to be in multiple mailboxes.
Once it's downloaded, the mailboxes are no longer part of the picture
unless you're going to turn around and send it to another of your
email addresses or something similar. So perhaps you can see how it
might have been a bit confusing.

The mailboxes most definitely are in the picture. If I choose to
keep an E-mail that I receive, I move it from my In mailbox to
whatever mailbox I choose to archive it in.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko