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Allen Drake
Ya. I think that is what I meant to call him, from that commercial.
Peggy.
Ya. I think that is what I meant to call him, from that commercial.
Peggy.
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Char Jackson
Apparently, the details of the disc are secret.
Apparently, the details of the email are secret.
There's almost nothing about this story that makes sense, but you seem
to be up and running so all's well that ends well.
This review looks to be mostly positive.
<http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-Nine-Hundred-Two-Case-Review/696/7>
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Gene E. Bloch
OK, thanks. I had no idea what the Betty, and then Peggy, thing was
about, and was tempted to ask, but now I can see that it refers to a
commercial that I have never seen
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Rodney Pont
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Andy
Wrong you can download most microsoft programs inculdeing windows 7 from the
microsoft store online and you get the COA emailed to you and for $20.00
more they will mail you via postial mail a dvd and coa in a case.
thats how i get any new versions of windows now.
microsoft store online and you get the COA emailed to you and for $20.00
more they will mail you via postial mail a dvd and coa in a case.
thats how i get any new versions of windows now.
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Allen Drake
That's me alright. I started out with an Atari 1040ST if I remember
it right. One whole Meg of memory and a single sided single density
floppy drive 360 K. I had a BBS on an ATR 8000 in the early 80's. I
used to love programming in Basic. The assembly and then C. I had 12
computers at one time until I just had to do something. Rehab would
have been in order but I went cold turkey for a while until now. I'm
just a social geeker and spend 12 hours a day at a job that only has
occasional CAD applications involved while I run CNCs all day. Welcome
to the real world.
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Allen Drake
I am not sure if I follow you. I am keeping no secrets if that is
what you mean. I wanted to install Win7 on my new system but didn't
feel like driving to the store to buy another disk. I purchased Win 7
Ultimate at the Microsoft store and was emailed a product key. I tried
to use an existing disk from a previous installation with the newly
purchased key that was emailed to me. I selected the Download version
thinking I could use that. That didn't work. I have done this with MS
Office no problem. The disk I used was a Win 7 Premium version while
the key was for Ultimate. I thought I made that clear. If you have any
more questions I will gladly provide answers.
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Allen Drake
Thanks. I will take a look at it later tonight.
AL.
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Char Jackson
Nope, no more questions. I gave up.
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R. C. White
Hi, Al.
One more try to find out about that mysterious disk, then I'll give up, too,
like Char did.
Way up-thread, I asked you to:
But I'm glad you're up and running.
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1
"Allen Drake" wrote in message
I am not sure if I follow you. I am keeping no secrets if that is
what you mean. I wanted to install Win7 on my new system but didn't
feel like driving to the store to buy another disk. I purchased Win 7
Ultimate at the Microsoft store and was emailed a product key. I tried
to use an existing disk from a previous installation with the newly
purchased key that was emailed to me. I selected the Download version
thinking I could use that. That didn't work. I have done this with MS
Office no problem. The disk I used was a Win 7 Premium version while
the key was for Ultimate. I thought I made that clear. If you have any
more questions I will gladly provide answers.
One more try to find out about that mysterious disk, then I'll give up, too,
like Char did.
Way up-thread, I asked you to:
But the only thing you've told us is stuff like:
That doesn't answer any of our questions.
But I'm glad you're up and running.
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1
"Allen Drake" wrote in message
I am not sure if I follow you. I am keeping no secrets if that is
what you mean. I wanted to install Win7 on my new system but didn't
feel like driving to the store to buy another disk. I purchased Win 7
Ultimate at the Microsoft store and was emailed a product key. I tried
to use an existing disk from a previous installation with the newly
purchased key that was emailed to me. I selected the Download version
thinking I could use that. That didn't work. I have done this with MS
Office no problem. The disk I used was a Win 7 Premium version while
the key was for Ultimate. I thought I made that clear. If you have any
more questions I will gladly provide answers.
R
Roy Smith
Yes it is about the Discover Card, here's a link to the commercial onOK, thanks. I had no idea what the Betty, and then Peggy, thing was
about, and was tempted to ask, but now I can see that it refers to a
commercial that I have never seen
YouTube:
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Thunderbird 5.0
Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:48:52 PM
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Allen Drake
Gave up what? Is there something you just don't understand? Something
that is unclear that I left out. I thought everything was pretty
straight forward.
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Allen Drake
I am getting used to it now that everything is assembled. I like my
Gladiator drive placement. All you need to do it remove one cover and
they are right there. I prefer the sliding side brackets over screws
any day. It has room for 4 drives but I never have that many drives in
one system. I like the external USB 3 drive cases. I just ordered a 3
TB SATA 6 Seagate that I will use as my only drive in the case. I
mainly wanted to see how fast it is while I wait for the SSD to come
down in price. How many of your 6 drives get regular use? My thoughts
were why have them hot if they aren't used regularly
I will look for a USB 3 header but the case comes with the cable
installed and I read that it should be run outside to the back like I
indicated. I will have to spend more time this weekend when I actually
have more than a hour at a time to review everything I have going
here.
Al
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Allen Drake
Ok, Sorry I have not made myself clear. I believe I indicated that
all my win 7 installs were not upgrades and full versions. Not OEM
disks. All my systems are home brew so none came with a manufacturer
built computer. Dell has nothing to do with anything I own.
I tried to use a disk I used before to install full version of Win 7
but didn't take the newly purchased key. As I stated I have used one
disk of MS Office on several systems while entering new valid keys.
Only one disk is ever required and can be used as many times as you
want as long as you have purchased keys for each install. This was my
reasoning when I tried to use that Win 7 disk. My understanding was
that the product key unlocked Ultimate if you have Home premium.
AL.
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Gene E. Bloch
Mulþumesc (Or should I say spasibo) - I got a nice guffaw out of that.
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Yousuf Khan
My Haf X has similar USB 3 cable too. It's meant to connect to a PCI-E
USB3 plugin adapter, which usually has its connectors on the back. So
it's meant to allow you to bring those back connectors to the front. You
could also connect them to internal pins from the motherboard. All
modern AMD motherboards have built-in USB3, some modern Intel boards do
to (through a separate chip). So you can plug them in internally if you
like, if you didn't need to get the PCI-E adapter. I have a slightly
older motherboard, so it doesn't have USB3 built-in, and I have no
intention of getting a plugin adapter for it either. So I just plugged
it into a regular USB2 pinout on the motherboard, and I'm using it as USB2.
Yousuf Khan
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Paul
Isn't this one of the first native USB3 implementations ? AndYousuf said:
this article is from June of this year.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review
There is a benchmark of some sort, comparing the A75 native USB3
to a couple other boards.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4447/desktop-llano-motherboards-the-asrock-a75-extreme6-preview/3
I thought to date, several different third-party USB3 chips
have been filling the role of USB3 host. The NEC/Renesas chip
being the first.
The other thing I found, was a USB3 motherboard header definition.
Quite ambitious, putting two USB3 on a 20 pin header pattern. You'd
have thought a slightly smaller connector and "one port at a time"
header would have been more popular. I bet the cable doesn't bend
very easily.
http://download.intel.com/technology/usb/USB_3.0_Internal_Connector_and_Cable_Specification.pdf
Paul
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Allen Drake
Apparently the board only has USB 2 connections so the cable needs to
run that way. No biggie. It is an ASUS M4A87TD/USB 3 so it is rather
strange that it has none. I'm not even sure if this USB 3 thing is any
new phenomena when it comes right down to it. Maybe when I get back to
64Bit setup for Video rendering it might be a factor. Maybe as system
backup device it might save some time. I know when I clone drives it's
better to place the destination drive internally. Still waiting for my
SATA 6 to arrive to see if that makes any difference.The only way I
have been tracking drive speed is to time the clone event. When I
rate computers' performance it gives Primary hard disk data transfer
rate a 5.9 while everything else gets 7.4.
I have one external USB 3 drive but haven't really tested it. I just
assumed it was better to get one over USB 2 when I was picking one up
anyway.
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Paul
The SATA III interface, makes a difference for SSD drives, butAllen said:
for hard drives, you're limited by the speed of the media (head
to platter). SATA I comes pretty close to satisfying the needs
of spinning media, and SATA II has plenty of breathing room
for spinning media. SATA III on the other hand, adds virtually
nothing (because SATA II was enough). But with SSDs, you just
keep putting flash chips in parallel, and the data rate goes up
and up (at least, for large file transfers).
If you do video editing, some day when SSDs have larger capacities,
they'll look very good when moving those big files.
*******
According to the chart here, USB3 could handle a particular
storage protocol, at up to 336MB/sec. I'm still waiting for
an enclosure benchmark, that runs that fast. I think the best
I've seen mentioned, is around 200MB/sec. Some company was
working on a two drive RAID0 chip, and presumably that's to try
to get closer to the limits of USB3. No performance spec was
listed for that chip. In any case, even at 200MB/sec, that
is plenty to handle the 125MB/sec sustained, of a cheap hard drive.
http://www.nordichardware.com/index.php?option=com_content&catid=112&lang=en&view=article&id=20792
Both USB3 and ESATA and internal SATA, would feel roughly the
same when doing large file transfers. As the disk is the
limiting factor. It's when you start using high end SSDs, that
there is a chance to really test those options. But SSDs aren't
cheap enough for video work. They're only cheap enough, for
running benchmarks
Paul
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Allen Drake
Thanks Paul for the useful information. I wonder how long it will beThe SATA III interface, makes a difference for SSD drives, but
for hard drives, you're limited by the speed of the media (head
to platter). SATA I comes pretty close to satisfying the needs
of spinning media, and SATA II has plenty of breathing room
for spinning media. SATA III on the other hand, adds virtually
nothing (because SATA II was enough). But with SSDs, you just
keep putting flash chips in parallel, and the data rate goes up
and up (at least, for large file transfers).
If you do video editing, some day when SSDs have larger capacities,
they'll look very good when moving those big files.
*******
According to the chart here, USB3 could handle a particular
storage protocol, at up to 336MB/sec. I'm still waiting for
an enclosure benchmark, that runs that fast. I think the best
I've seen mentioned, is around 200MB/sec. Some company was
working on a two drive RAID0 chip, and presumably that's to try
to get closer to the limits of USB3. No performance spec was
listed for that chip. In any case, even at 200MB/sec, that
is plenty to handle the 125MB/sec sustained, of a cheap hard drive.
http://www.nordichardware.com/index.php?option=com_content&catid=112&lang=en&view=article&id=20792
Both USB3 and ESATA and internal SATA, would feel roughly the
same when doing large file transfers. As the disk is the
limiting factor. It's when you start using high end SSDs, that
there is a chance to really test those options. But SSDs aren't
cheap enough for video work. They're only cheap enough, for
running benchmarks
Paul
before the SSD prices come down to earth. I am very tempted to get one
just to play with. Maybe for my Notebook PC. ASUS GH73SW-BST6.
What is your opinion on the prospective purchase?
Al