Can't get permission.... AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lewis]

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I can see why there are so few women on these PC NGs.

All the people on USENET who claim to be female are 300lb longshoremen
with hairy backs and erectile disjunction.

 

[Lewis]

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They don't come with manuals anymore.

Yes they do. There is even a "Help" item on the default start menu which
opens the help documentation.

 

[Just Judy]

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All the people on USENET who claim to be female are 300lb longshoremen
with hairy backs and erectile disjunction.

I do not suffer from erectile disjunction!

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

[Roy Smith]

It's not listed there. We got around it by putting a folder on the
desktop called "Cannot Remove" and dragged them into that folder.
They'll have to sit there forever. The HP tech downloaded a Norton tool
to get rid of Norton.

You are not on XP and Win 7 is protecting the Program

I can see W-7 protecting programs that MS added, even if not wanted, but
two of these were added by me.


Apparenty I found the wrong "hidden admin account" because I still
needed Permission to remove the programs.


Putting 2 and 2 together must have been a secret to W-7 since I still
needed Permission to remove the programs.


It is sad that that software like W-7 is installed on people's PCs and
they have no control over ther own computers. It's very sad indeed. I'm
glad you agree.

Again here you go being vague about your problems. So what specific
programs are you trying to remove? What steps have to taken in trying
to remove these programs?


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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Postbox 2.0.2
Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:08:09 AM

 

[Nil]

Yes they do. There is even a "Help" item on the default start menu
which opens the help documentation.

She refuses to use Window's help. She claims it's too geeky.

 

[Bogey Man]

Again here you go being vague about your problems. So what specific
programs are you trying to remove? What steps have to taken in trying
to remove these programs?

I used to get my computers custom made. The shop owner would conduct an
interview with the customer to determine how the computer was to be used and
to get an idea of the customer's computer ability if he didn't know you. He
would then go over each and every component of the computer giving options
and explaining each one. At the end he confirmed the operating system to be
used and the equipment that the computer was going to be connected to. If
you had the disks for the operating system and programs he would install
them and test them for 48 hours before releasing the computer to the
customer. All manuals for all components were included with the completed
computer.

He kept a record of every computer that he built along with what it was
built with. He also had a "store" warranty which was longer than the parts
warranty.

To top it off, he was the cheapest source of computers in the district
including the large computer stores.

Much to my surprise, last week, I went into Staples Canada and they were
selling laptops "ready to use" which I haven't seen in a very long time.

 

[Bob I]

They don't come with manuals anymore. The Idiot and Dummy books aren't
even as good as they once were.

Funny thing is, my Dell came with a user guide booklet, and pressing F1
provides a direct link into Windows Help and Support. (Offline AND
Online) You might try that.

 

[Big Steel]

It's not listed there. We got around it by putting a folder on the desktop
called "Cannot Remove" and dragged them into that folder. They'll have to
sit there forever. The HP tech downloaded a Norton tool to get rid of
Norton.

It seems like an unnecessary hack. But if it worked for you then use
it.

You are not on XP and Win 7 is protecting the Program System32.

I can see W-7 protecting programs that MS added, even if not wanted, but two
of these were added by me.

No your user account installed nothing if in fact you did use install
software to install the software.

The account used to install the software is the Trusted Installer
account which control was relinquished to that account to do.the
install. If the Trusted Installer account installed it, then that
account must be used to remove it.

Or you could have put the admin user group on the folder with the
permissions needed to remove it manually. But that would require that
you knew how to do it.

Apparenty I found the wrong "hidden admin account" because I still needed
Permission to remove the programs.

Well, if the user account or user group is not on the file or folder
or the user account or user group is on the is on the file or folder
with the proper permissions, then the user account or user group is
going to be denied the proper access.

Putting 2 and 2 together must have been a secret to W-7 since I still needed
Permission to remove the programs.

No, you just don't have the knowledge on how to do it, which a lot of
it is from prior experience in using an o/s like. NT 4, Win 2K, and
XP which were open by default o/s(s) to know what one needs to do in
order to do the same things on Vista or Win 7. Vista and Win 7 are
closed by default o/s(s).

It is sad that that software like W-7 is installed on people's PCs and they
have no control over ther own computers. It's very sad indeed. I'm glad you
agree.

I am glad that MS has closed down the o/s so that one needs to know
how to admin the system with proper permissions and knowledge needed
to do so, closing many of the attack vectors on the machine.

 

[Sunny]

There is no need for profanity. It makes a person look like a
knuckle-dragger. The manual that MS includes with W-7 doesn't explain
what to do when W-7 can't detect an external modem or the OS refuses to
grant permission to remove a program from W-7 that's no longer wanted.
Or how to rename files when the OS refuses to grant "permission."

http://www.seekbooks.com.au/featuredbook1.asp?bookid=9780470497432&gclid=CLuc8qnuj6UCFQjObgod0hF8OA
http://tinyurl.com/2cy6up9

http://www.fishpond.com.au/advanced...&type=Search&gclid=CIPq2cbuj6UCFQMjbgodDRCsOA
http://tinyurl.com/2fd9ehf

http://www.torrentdownloads.net/torrent/1650695101/Windows+7+for+Dummies+Quick+Reference.pdf
http://tinyurl.com/264h8mq

http://malektips.com/windows_7_help_and_tips.html

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

And what do you do when the manual doesn't cover a few of the car's problems
and you can't find the answers online, in magazines, and the auto techs
can't even straighten them out? You're protected by the Lemon Law.
Software isn't.

I tend to use my brain.

 

[Valorie *~]

I tend to use my brain.

What is this brain thingy of which you speak?

 

[Peter Foldes]

What is this brain thingy of which you speak?


Valorie

Now that is a Trollish answer

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[Gene E. Bloch]

Valorie

Now that is a Trollish answer

That post was from the person who is spoofing Valorie.

 

[Valorie *~]

No, it's standard procedure if you use Linux. Only Windows needs all that
protection. The only firewall I have is a NAT firewall in the
modem/router. Windows Mail would probably work better in WINE using Linux
than it does in Windwows 7.

I explained before that I have no tech here to install Linux or a way to
know what software would work on it. I was talking to the tech at Staples
today about something other than Windows. The problem most people have he
told me, is finding software to work on it. They have a similar problem he
said, with MACS. Everything works on Windows.

 

[Valorie *~]

I tend to use my brain.

And the info you couldn't find anywhere simply falls from the sky into your
brain? ))

 

[Valorie *~]

I'm being frogged by the usual Troll. I don't use Giganews.com.

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[Valorie *~]

Let me remind you, politely and with a cherry on top, chucking around
words like 'geek', 'nerd', 'knuckle dragger' which seems to be your
reaction to whatever help I post, is not a very bright reaction - it's you
who are lost, not me.

Let me remind YOU that profanity lowers a person to knuckle-dragging status
where I live. Geek and Nerd are not negative terms here. The tech we paid
$150 hr to try and set up a network called himself a Geek and a Nerd. He
was intelligent and made a good living. Don't assume what it means in the
UK is the same as it does here. In the north what we called license plates
for our cars are, in the south, called tags. In the north a hush puppy is a
type of shoe, and in the south a fried corn ball containing seasonings and
onion.

 

[Valorie *~]

http://www.seekbooks.com.au/featuredbook1.asp?bookid=9780470497432&gclid=CLuc8qnuj6UCFQjObgod0hF8OA
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http://www.fishpond.com.au/advanced...&type=Search&gclid=CIPq2cbuj6UCFQMjbgodDRCsOA
http://tinyurl.com/2fd9ehf

http://www.torrentdownloads.net/torrent/1650695101/Windows+7+for+Dummies+Quick+Reference.pdf
http://tinyurl.com/264h8mq

http://malektips.com/windows_7_help_and_tips.html

Better yet, I found this, downloaded it and it works:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1911-take-ownership-shortcut.html

 

[Valorie *~]

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Yes they do. There is even a "Help" item on the default start menu which
opens the help documentation.

I didn't find any info in the help section as to what to do when you
couldn't get permission to do something - over and over again. It must be
well hidden there huh?

 

[Valorie *~]

She refuses to use Window's help. She claims it's too geeky.

I never said that. You need to learn the difference between me and your
resident troll and frogger. ;-) There was nothing in the help files
concerning what to do when you can't get permissions or when W-7 couldn't
detect an external modem. Nothing about this website to overcome all the M$
permissions crap:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1911-take-ownership-shortcut.html