Attitude

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Wolf K

On 09/12/2012 9:28 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
[...]
I have been judged by the Almighty Wolf.
Wolf has decreed who shall say what.
Sorry, I don't do requests.
Heh, heh, you just did. ;-)

Pax?
 
K

Ken Blake

But I have to give you a piece of (admittedly unsolicited) technical
advice. Don't enter your reply after the signature delimiter, that is
the two dashes and a space. Enter it on lines before that, and make sure
those three characters above are on a separate line..

Why? Note that your response isn't quoted here. It's an automatic result
of that placement of the reply.

By the way, you may already know this, but just in case you don't....

Although the deletion of what's after the two hyphen line in a
quotation is the default, you can turn it off, at least in some
newsreaders. Agent lets me do it, as you can see above.

But your advice is still correct: don't put your response after that
line because most people *don't* turn it off (or perhaps not even know
that they can).
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

By the way, you may already know this, but just in case you don't....

Although the deletion of what's after the two hyphen line in a
quotation is the default, you can turn it off, at least in some
newsreaders. Agent lets me do it, as you can see above.

But your advice is still correct: don't put your response after that
line because most people *don't* turn it off (or perhaps not even know
that they can).
I have no idea if this newsreader will do the above. I have no intention
of turning it off, so I never looked for that setting.

The other reader I occasionally use is MesNews, and again, I never
looked for that option.

But I don't know the relevance of this for Ray, since regardless of what
I do, it will still be the norm for many other people who might reply to
his posts. Not to mention that by putting his replies after the sig
delimiter, he causes them to be greyed out in many newsreaders,
resulting in a strong possibility that his replies will be missed or
ignored[1]. I should have mentioned that in my original reply, but I
*was* trying to keep it short.

[1] I often don't even bother to read reply text that is greyed out by
being after the sig delimiter, sometimes just because I'm in an
uncooperative mood :)
 
K

Ken Blake

By the way, you may already know this, but just in case you don't....

Although the deletion of what's after the two hyphen line in a
quotation is the default, you can turn it off, at least in some
newsreaders. Agent lets me do it, as you can see above.

But your advice is still correct: don't put your response after that
line because most people *don't* turn it off (or perhaps not even know
that they can).
I have no idea if this newsreader will do the above. I have no intention
of turning it off, so I never looked for that setting.

The other reader I occasionally use is MesNews, and again, I never
looked for that option.

But I don't know the relevance of this for Ray, since regardless of what
I do, it will still be the norm for many other people who might reply to
his posts. Not to mention that by putting his replies after the sig
delimiter, he causes them to be greyed out in many newsreaders,
resulting in a strong possibility that his replies will be missed or
ignored[1]. I should have mentioned that in my original reply, but I
*was* trying to keep it short.

Yes, I agree. That's why I said "But your advice is still correct:
don't put your response after that line because most people *don't*
turn it off (or perhaps not even know that they can)."
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:51:30 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"

But I have to give you a piece of (admittedly unsolicited) technical
advice. Don't enter your reply after the signature delimiter, that is
the two dashes and a space. Enter it on lines before that, and make sure
those three characters above are on a separate line..

Why? Note that your response isn't quoted here. It's an automatic result
of that placement of the reply.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

By the way, you may already know this, but just in case you don't....

Although the deletion of what's after the two hyphen line in a
quotation is the default, you can turn it off, at least in some
newsreaders. Agent lets me do it, as you can see above.

But your advice is still correct: don't put your response after that
line because most people *don't* turn it off (or perhaps not even know
that they can).
I have no idea if this newsreader will do the above. I have no intention
of turning it off, so I never looked for that setting.

The other reader I occasionally use is MesNews, and again, I never
looked for that option.

But I don't know the relevance of this for Ray, since regardless of what
I do, it will still be the norm for many other people who might reply to
his posts. Not to mention that by putting his replies after the sig
delimiter, he causes them to be greyed out in many newsreaders,
resulting in a strong possibility that his replies will be missed or
ignored[1]. I should have mentioned that in my original reply, but I
*was* trying to keep it short.
Yes, I agree. That's why I said "But your advice is still correct:
don't put your response after that line because most people *don't*
turn it off (or perhaps not even know that they can)."
Ok, got it. Thanks - especially for a nice opportunity to pontificate
:)
 
K

Ken Blake

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:53:32 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:51:30 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"

But I have to give you a piece of (admittedly unsolicited) technical
advice. Don't enter your reply after the signature delimiter, that is
the two dashes and a space. Enter it on lines before that, and make sure
those three characters above are on a separate line..

Why? Note that your response isn't quoted here. It's an automatic result
of that placement of the reply.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

By the way, you may already know this, but just in case you don't....

Although the deletion of what's after the two hyphen line in a
quotation is the default, you can turn it off, at least in some
newsreaders. Agent lets me do it, as you can see above.

But your advice is still correct: don't put your response after that
line because most people *don't* turn it off (or perhaps not even know
that they can).

I have no idea if this newsreader will do the above. I have no intention
of turning it off, so I never looked for that setting.

The other reader I occasionally use is MesNews, and again, I never
looked for that option.

But I don't know the relevance of this for Ray, since regardless of what
I do, it will still be the norm for many other people who might reply to
his posts. Not to mention that by putting his replies after the sig
delimiter, he causes them to be greyed out in many newsreaders,
resulting in a strong possibility that his replies will be missed or
ignored[1]. I should have mentioned that in my original reply, but I
*was* trying to keep it short.
Yes, I agree. That's why I said "But your advice is still correct:
don't put your response after that line because most people *don't*
turn it off (or perhaps not even know that they can)."
Ok, got it. Thanks - especially for a nice opportunity to pontificate
:)

You're welcome.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

As I said elsewhere, I was not seeking to make any connection between
me and Ray. Reading my post carefully will confirm this.
I saw you replied to Ray so I figured you thought Ray referred to you.
Apparently you were chiming in with Ray regarding the "colorful"
demeanor of some posters here (and elsewhere, too). Compared to some
newsgroups (kooks, advocacy, politics, religion, 24hoursupport), this
place is timid.[/QUOTE]

Agreed - though I'd say polite would be a better word. Timid has some
negativity about it (which you probably didn't intend).
[]
 
W

Wolf K

I saw you replied to Ray so I figured you thought Ray referred to you.
Apparently you were chiming in with Ray regarding the "colorful"
demeanor of some posters here (and elsewhere, too). Compared to some
newsgroups (kooks, advocacy, politics, religion, 24hoursupport), this
place is timid.
Agreed - though I'd say polite would be a better word. Timid has some
negativity about it (which you probably didn't intend).
[][/QUOTE]

Most posts are helpful. The impolite posts come from people who have too
little patience with newbies. I could say something snarky about the the
rude posters now, but I won't.

Have a good day.
 
M

Mugsy

"FDK" wrote in message


"Ray" wrote in message

I'M SORRY! I apologize to the entire group for starting such a rant.
I
had no idea it would result in pitting so many people against each
other. I
think the result bears out my contention that there are those who are
unkind
in their responses. Call me names if you like. My feelings are not
hurt.
I am not angry but certainly upset at the end result. You don’t
have to
remind me of my inexperience. I don't think I'm a bad person. I
realize
everyone here with the exception of myself is an expert.
----
_______________________________________________________________
Yeah - you're going to go to heaven.
There is no heaven.
 
C

Char Jackson

"FDK" wrote in message


"Ray" wrote in message

I'M SORRY! I apologize to the entire group for starting such a rant.
I
had no idea it would result in pitting so many people against each
other. I
think the result bears out my contention that there are those who are
unkind
in their responses. Call me names if you like. My feelings are not
hurt.
I am not angry but certainly upset at the end result. You don’t
have to
remind me of my inexperience. I don't think I'm a bad person. I
realize
everyone here with the exception of myself is an expert.
----
_______________________________________________________________


There is no heaven.
Wait, isn't she dancing at the Cowboy Up on Tuesdays?
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Call me names if you like.
May I call you Mugsy?

And I wouldn't worry if I were you. As I type this, this thread is only
at 126 entries, not counting this reply or the OP.
 
E

Ed Cryer

Mugsy said:
"FDK" wrote in message


"Ray" wrote in message

I'M SORRY! I apologize to the entire group for starting such a rant.
I
had no idea it would result in pitting so many people against each
other. I
think the result bears out my contention that there are those who are
unkind
in their responses. Call me names if you like. My feelings are not
hurt.
I am not angry but certainly upset at the end result. You don’t
have to
remind me of my inexperience. I don't think I'm a bad person. I
realize
everyone here with the exception of myself is an expert.
----
_______________________________________________________________


There is no heaven.
Hiya Mugsy.

When you get to heaven there is the book of your life all written out
there and waiting for you. And at the lectern stands a tall man in white
robes.
Behind him there's a jury of people who've known you. And you get called
to account, weighed in the balance of good/evil right/wrong. If you pass
as ok, well then wait for me; I'll be coming that way. But if you don't
pass, sheesh, byebye Mugsy.

Ed
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Hiya Mugsy.

When you get to heaven there is the book of your life all written out
there and waiting for you. And at the lectern stands a tall man in white
robes.
Behind him there's a jury of people who've known you. And you get called
to account, weighed in the balance of good/evil right/wrong. If you pass
as ok, well then wait for me; I'll be coming that way. But if you don't
pass, sheesh, byebye Mugsy.

Ed
Does that jury include newsgroup netizens? That could hurt *anyone's*
chances...
 
M

Mugsy

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message
"FDK" wrote in message


"Ray" wrote in message

I'M SORRY! I apologize to the entire group for starting such a
rant.
I
had no idea it would result in pitting so many people against each
other. I
think the result bears out my contention that there are those who
are
unkind
in their responses. Call me names if you like. My feelings are
not
hurt.
I am not angry but certainly upset at the end result. You don’t
have to
remind me of my inexperience. I don't think I'm a bad person. I
realize
everyone here with the exception of myself is an expert.
----
_______________________________________________________________


There is no heaven.
Hiya Mugsy.
When you get to heaven there is the book of your life all written out
there and waiting for you. And at the lectern stands a tall man in
white robes.
Behind him there's a jury of people who've known you. And you get
called to account, weighed in the balance of good/evil right/wrong.
You honestly believe this?
If you pass as ok, well then wait for me; I'll be coming that way.
But if you don't pass, sheesh, byebye Mugsy.
Possibly, when you die you go somewhere. Possibly you will be given a
choice of the next life you live. Possibly the choices aren't too
good.

Possibly, when you die they throw you in a hole or burn you, and there
is nothing after.

The inconvenient truth - so odious.
 
C

choro

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message



You honestly believe this?


Possibly, when you die you go somewhere. Possibly you will be given a
choice of the next life you live. Possibly the choices aren't too good.

Possibly, when you die they throw you in a hole or burn you, and there
is nothing after.

The inconvenient truth - so odious.
Oh yes, there is (life after death)! What happens to all those atoms and
molecules that make up you, the person? They turn into something else.
Maggots? If you are not cremated. Ashes if you are cremated. Life after
death? Quite possible if your remains turn into fertilizer and then into
plants and then into other living things.

I was once passing through a cemetery, a shortcut home from school. I
was a mere seven or eight years old. The cemetery was overgrown with
grass and a stray donkey was eating the grass. And I thought to myself:
Hey, man die. Turn into fertilizer and fertilizer into grass. Donkey eat
grass and man become donkey. Or who knows maybe the donkey is an ass
that gets pregnant and gives birth to a foal and man turn into a little
baby donkey.

Logical? Of course. But there *is* life after death but not in the
commonly understood sense. This is nature's way of recycling things.

Now, what's this got to do with Windows 7? It is recycled and a bit
messed up, things get put in different places and it turns into Windows
8. Another form of recycling. Reincarnation? In a way yes but in this
instance the reincarnation happens without any death unless by
strangling over the long term as is going to happen soon to Windows XP.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...T0QWTgYGACQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1784&bih=1055

Here is the *reincarnated* version of the above URL...
http://goo.gl/UBm0y
 
E

Ed Cryer

choro said:
Oh yes, there is (life after death)! What happens to all those atoms and
molecules that make up you, the person? They turn into something else.
Maggots? If you are not cremated. Ashes if you are cremated. Life after
death? Quite possible if your remains turn into fertilizer and then into
plants and then into other living things.

I was once passing through a cemetery, a shortcut home from school. I
was a mere seven or eight years old. The cemetery was overgrown with
grass and a stray donkey was eating the grass. And I thought to myself:
Hey, man die. Turn into fertilizer and fertilizer into grass. Donkey eat
grass and man become donkey. Or who knows maybe the donkey is an ass
that gets pregnant and gives birth to a foal and man turn into a little
baby donkey.

Logical? Of course. But there *is* life after death but not in the
commonly understood sense. This is nature's way of recycling things.

Now, what's this got to do with Windows 7? It is recycled and a bit
messed up, things get put in different places and it turns into Windows
8. Another form of recycling. Reincarnation? In a way yes but in this
instance the reincarnation happens without any death unless by
strangling over the long term as is going to happen soon to Windows XP.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...T0QWTgYGACQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1784&bih=1055


Here is the *reincarnated* version of the above URL...
http://goo.gl/UBm0y
And then we have carbon-based brains; and the material was fashioned
long ago at the burning heart of stars.
We are star-dust; we are golden.
We are all made of stars.

Ed
 
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Char Jackson

And then we have carbon-based brains; and the material was fashioned
long ago at the burning heart of stars.
We are star-dust; we are golden.
We are all made of stars.
I think you meant to say:

We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.
 
E

Ed Cryer

Char said:
I think you meant to say:

We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.
Yes, plus an addition by Moby;

Ed
 
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