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[Char Jackson]

That's not a good comparison, and I think you know it. There have been
many updates released for Windows 7, and Microsoft continues to mention
it publicly. Can the same be said for Forte and Agent? If they are
continuing to develop the product, they are being very secretive about
it.

I would swing the pendulum back in Ken's direction a bit and point out
that Windows 7 _needs_ frequent updates in order to deal with the ever
changing environment in which it is used, while Agent's environment,
Usenet, is fairly static, so updates are rarely needed, if at all.

Regarding Microsoft's frequent mention of it's flagship OS, Forte
likely knows that their product is nearly legendary within the Usenet
world and at the same time it's almost entirely invisible outside of
that world, so what is there to mention?

 

[Ann Watson]

I'm waiting for the adding of an address, into an already open send
message pane.... especially difficult when in reply mode...

I'm not sure I understand your problem. Are you trying to add an
address from one of your address books?

AW

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:02:58 -0700, Gene E. Bloch


About 200 seconds. But of course, if you want to read the messages
within them, it takes much longer.

OK, thanks. That's all I needed to know

You made me laugh.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:02:58 -0700, Gene E. Bloch

That was my initial thought, as well. I subscribe to 27 groups at the
moment, with a handful of those being all but dead, and I STILL spend
far too much time on Usenet.

Yeah. Only 17 here, but still...

Oh well, it's fun.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Do you really think that Microsoft or it's customer's best interests and
needs were being served by Usenet? All the anti-MS noise made it nearly
impossible to hear anything.

Not for me.

 

[Charles Tomaras]

Not for me.

What?

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

What?

Not for me.

"All the anti-MS noise made it nearly impossible to hear anything" is
not true for me.

I got lots of help and ideas from the old MS Usenet newsgroups.

 

[Nil]

I would swing the pendulum back in Ken's direction a bit and point
out that Windows 7 _needs_ frequent updates in order to deal with
the ever changing environment in which it is used, while Agent's
environment, Usenet, is fairly static, so updates are rarely
needed, if at all.

Regarding Microsoft's frequent mention of it's flagship OS, Forte
likely knows that their product is nearly legendary within the
Usenet world and at the same time it's almost entirely invisible
outside of that world, so what is there to mention?

I see in the forte-agent newsgroup quite a bit of discussion about
features and improvements people would like added to Agent. I would
think that if the program were still a priority for Forte, they would
have addressed the users about them sometime within the past 3 years,
if only to reassure them that the product wasn't dead.

And what do they do all day? They don't appear to have any other
products that would be distracting them from developing Agent.

Just seems like a funny way to run a software company. Most of them go
out of their way to appear to be moving forward, even if it's just for
show.

 

[John Morrison]

Windows 7 was released a month earlier, on October 22, 2009. Do you
classify that as out of production too?

No I don't class Windows 7 as out of production.

In the past I purchased Windows 98 and used it for a week before
formatting C: drive and going back to Windows NT.

I didn't upgrade from WinXP to Windows Vista but I'm happy with Win 7.

One of Agents' developers who posted in the GRC newsgroups:
http://www.grc.com/intro.htm mentioned that he was no longer employed by
Forte Agent and no other information was provided. I assumed that was
the end of Agent and so far haven't been proved wrong.

 

[Jeff Layman]

They do work and they work very well by MSFT's standards. The reason
they don't work well by Usenet standars is that, many years back, MSFT
made the decision to totally ignore GNKSA standards.

Seems to me you wasted a little bit of time keying "GNKSA"... ;-)

 

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

I have to ask: how long does it take to look at 200 newsgroups?

About 15 minutes because any good newsreader will be able to step
through the whole lot looking for changes. That's what I'm doing now
with Forte Agent.

Steve

 

[Ken Blake]

On 6/08/2011, Ken Blake posted:

OK, thanks. That's all I needed to know

You made me laugh.

Glad to hear it! <g>

 

[Leon Manfredi]

Though the most recent version of Eudora is based on Thunderbird, so it
does newsgroups as well now.

Whoa baby, hold the phone.... no version of Eudora, that I've owned,
begriming with 1.xx to 6.xx, ever had a news reading capability..
Pray tell, point me in the right direction to that one, or do you have
things B'ass Ak'wards here???

 

[Paul]

Whoa baby, hold the phone.... no version of Eudora, that I've owned,
begriming with 1.xx to 6.xx, ever had a news reading capability..
Pray tell, point me in the right direction to that one, or do you have
things B'ass Ak'wards here???

This site has *everything*, even if not all the articles are well written.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_(e-mail_client)

Paul

 

[Leon Manfredi]

Screw Microsoft.... I'll take Usenet anytime....

Not for me.

 

[Char Jackson]

This site has *everything*, even if not all the articles are well written.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_(e-mail_client)

This part is unfortunate:

"Many Eudora users responded poorly to the direction Penelope took.
Similarly, reception to Eudora OSE continues to be lukewarm months
after the release."

 

[Charles Tomaras]

Screw Microsoft.... I'll take Usenet anytime....

Name me even ONE company who is served well by the current state of Usenet
as a system of support? Name calling, aliases, bias, childishness,
googlegroups spam, etc. It's just not the Usenet it used to be and
unfortunately it's in a state of steady decline from what I observe. Would
imagine that user stats from quite a few different sources would bear that
out as well.

 

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

Name me even ONE company who is served well by the current state of Usenet
as a system of support?

I don't remember Usenet ever being as a system of support. Some
companies have used NNTP for support but not the Usenet sub hierarchy.
Steve

 

[Jake]

This part is unfortunate:

"Many Eudora users responded poorly to the direction Penelope took.
Similarly, reception to Eudora OSE continues to be lukewarm months
after the release."

That's because it's missing many features that version 7 users depend
on. It's also not stable enough for prime time. They're still working on
it, though.

Like many other v7 users, I'll be happy to move when it does everything
v7 does.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:02:58 -0700, Gene E. Bloch

About 15 minutes because any good newsreader will be able to step
through the whole lot looking for changes. That's what I'm doing now
with Forte Agent.

Steve

OK, thanks. I had foolishly assumed that you were reading messages, not
just looking for changes