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DJT
Is there any way to do this using mouse only. I don't want to have to
type the partial name as most of the time you don't know the actual
program name
Is there any way to do this using mouse only. I don't want to have to
type the partial name as most of the time you don't know the actual
program name
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Paul
With ClassicShell, you get a traditional menu. This was the web pageDJT said:
I was reading, before downloading it. I think they moved it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20121010122356/http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/features.html
More info here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell
So yes, you use your mouse.
Paul
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Darklight
And that's my point! They don't play around with it so they Wright it
off. Or it does not do what they expect or believe it should do so
they call it crap.
From my point of view once they LEARN what the metro interface can do
they might find it is faster than having desktop icons or accessing a
start menu. The windows key on the keyboard is your metro ui friend!
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Roy Smith
Yes there is, when you right-click on any blank part of the Start screen
you'll see this:
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1443/20130501-gn73-110kb
Then clicking on the "all apps" icon in the lower right you'll see all
your apps. like so:
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1443/20130501-ldyf-111kb
of course I have more that what can be show on the screen at one time,
so by using the scroll wheel on the mouse I can see the rest.
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Roy Smith
Windows 8 64-Bit
Thunderbird 17.0.5
Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:05:17 PM
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Nil
I don't have a Windows key on my keyboard.
J
John Williamson
That's either a Mac keyboard or very old, then.Nil said:
K
Ken Springer
I've just started playing a bit with Win 8, using a virtual machine on
this Mac.
I don't like the standard Metro screen either, simply wastes too much
screen space. I can see the large tiles on a smart phone, possibly a
tablet. I don't own a tablet or modern smartphone.
But on the desktop? With a large widescreen monitor? Touchscreen or
not, at this point I find it a time waster, and I like to go the other
direction.
That being said, if there was a way to always start the Metro UI in the
All Apps screen, that might be tolerable. Although, I don't know what
I'd think once there are more apps than will fit on the screen and you
have to start scrolling screens. OS X Mountain Lion has a Metro UI
equivalent called the Launchpad, works basically the same, and I don't
care for that either.
FWIW, and FYI, I have this Mac setup to use multiple desktops, and my
most common programs are all assigned to individual desktops. A few
load into their desktop at startup.
After that, it's hit the hot corner with the mouse to show all the
desktops, then click that desktop, and I'm working with that program.
If I don't want to use the mouse, I can use a keyboard shortcut to get
to the desktop/program I want.
In all the discussions I've read about the Metro UI/Win 8 interface,
I've seen no one even mention multiple desktops and/or keyboard
shortcuts as a way to avoid Metro.
To be anti-fanboi, I prefer my Mac over Windows (used to be a Windows
user), but no one OS is right for everyone. Sometimes, one does
something better than the other. I'm working on a project that I may do
in Windows 7 or 8 because I've found no way to make my Mac do what I want.
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.3
Firefox 20.0
Thunderbird 17.0.5
LibreOffice 4.0.1.2
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Darklight
it should be the one that is on the left between the Ctrl and Alt keys
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Darklight
You might want to look at opensuse 12.3 using kde4 by what you said iI've just started playing a bit with Win 8, using a virtual machine on
this Mac.
I don't like the standard Metro screen either, simply wastes too much
screen space. I can see the large tiles on a smart phone, possibly a
tablet. I don't own a tablet or modern smartphone.
But on the desktop? With a large widescreen monitor? Touchscreen or
not, at this point I find it a time waster, and I like to go the other
direction.
That being said, if there was a way to always start the Metro UI in the
All Apps screen, that might be tolerable. Although, I don't know what
I'd think once there are more apps than will fit on the screen and you
have to start scrolling screens. OS X Mountain Lion has a Metro UI
equivalent called the Launchpad, works basically the same, and I don't
care for that either.
FWIW, and FYI, I have this Mac setup to use multiple desktops, and my
most common programs are all assigned to individual desktops. A few
load into their desktop at startup.
After that, it's hit the hot corner with the mouse to show all the
desktops, then click that desktop, and I'm working with that program. If
I don't want to use the mouse, I can use a keyboard shortcut to get to
the desktop/program I want.
In all the discussions I've read about the Metro UI/Win 8 interface,
I've seen no one even mention multiple desktops and/or keyboard
shortcuts as a way to avoid Metro.
To be anti-fanboi, I prefer my Mac over Windows (used to be a Windows
user), but no one OS is right for everyone. Sometimes, one does
something better than the other. I'm working on a project that I may do
in Windows 7 or 8 because I've found no way to make my Mac do what I want.
have kde4 set up similar to your mac.
K
Ken Springer
Thanks for the suggestion, working with Linux is on the "someday" list.
LOL In this case, my project could benefit users of any OS depending
on how hard drive contents are displayed.
The only thing that stops me on the Mac is I've found no way to take the
sidebar and have a treeview display of the HD folders similar to the
various iterations in Window's navigation pane.
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.3
Firefox 20.0
Thunderbird 17.0.5
LibreOffice 4.0.1.2
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Fri, 03 May 2013 10:17:34 +0100, "Darklight"
keyboard I used for better than two decades:
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/kb/layout/stdEnh101-c.html
Not a Windows key in sight - and honestly, I never missed it. Even
today with a keyboard that has a Windows key, I rarely use it.
Not all keyboards have such a key. Here's a picture of the style of
keyboard I used for better than two decades:
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/kb/layout/stdEnh101-c.html
Not a Windows key in sight - and honestly, I never missed it. Even
today with a keyboard that has a Windows key, I rarely use it.
K
Ken Springer
OTOH, if you don't have the Windows key, you can't explore the functions
built into the OS that requires the key.
Unless you already knowwhat can be done with that key and know you don't want/need those features.
I'm the same way with this Mac. I don't like the aluminum keyboard,
terrible for typing IMO. So I use the older white "professional"
keyboard. As a result, I don't have any multimedia features on the
keyboard, missing 3 Fn keys (F17, F18, F19), and the generic Fn key.
But typing for me is easier, which was the goal.
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.3
Firefox 20.0
Thunderbird 17.0.5
LibreOffice 4.0.1.2
Z
Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Fri, 03 May 2013 06:33:26 -0600, "Ken Springer"
Windows key that can't be done with another key combination (other than
the Win+TAB that Aero uses to do the glitzy task switching effect - but
then I use ALT+TAB to do the same without the fancy UI effect so...).
That doesn't mean they don't exist, but that I haven't found a need for
anything that does require it.
--
Zaphod
Adventurer, ex-hippie, good-timer (crook? quite possibly),
manic self-publicist, terrible bad at personal relationships,
often thought to be completely out to lunch.
I can't think of a single function built into the OS that requires theOTOH, if you don't have the Windows key, you can't explore the functions
built into the OS that requires the key.
what can be done with that key and know you don't want/need those features.
Windows key that can't be done with another key combination (other than
the Win+TAB that Aero uses to do the glitzy task switching effect - but
then I use ALT+TAB to do the same without the fancy UI effect so...).
That doesn't mean they don't exist, but that I haven't found a need for
anything that does require it.
--
Zaphod
Adventurer, ex-hippie, good-timer (crook? quite possibly),
manic self-publicist, terrible bad at personal relationships,
often thought to be completely out to lunch.
J
John Williamson
I've got a couple of working Wintel laptops that don't have one. ;-)Darklight said:
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Nil
That's my keyboard, all right! I've also got two spares, all rescued
from a dumpster when my company threw them out years ago. I love their
feel, and they're built to withstand a nuclear blast, so I doubt
they'll be going away any time soon. The lack of a Windows key is a
slight nuisance, but nothing I haven't been able to deal with for
years. It seems that Win8 actually needs it, and for me that's a reason
to avoid it.
I'm aware there are new reproductions of the IBM clicky keyboard,
complete with Windows key. I might be interested in them, but they're
pricey and I worry that they may not be as sturdy and nice to type on
as my current one.
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Nil
There's a nice flat space there. No key of any kind.
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Darklight
If that is the case I think you would like dolphin in kde4. No
disrespect intended opensuse dumps on windows 8.
If you could see how konqueror can display files you would be shocked.
if you do decide to take a look at kde4 open konqueror make sure you in
home folder click on view -> file size view and let it do it's thing.
All i use windows 8 for is games this is where windows dumps on Linux.
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Ah, the classic (-:. Mind you, except for specialist purposes, I suspectIn message said:
you won't find one without a Windows key now.
(Incidentally, up to XP at least - I think beyond - Ctrl-Esc does the
same as Winkey on its own, though I don't think the _combinations_ work.
I'm currently rewriting an instruction manual for some test gear [NT4!]
that has a trackball; I'm mentioning the Ctrl-Esc alternative to
laboriously dragging the pointer to the Start button.)
I don't use the Winkey _that_ much, but I do use Win+E, to open Explorer
_at the level it does_ a lot (and I don't know any other combination
that does that in one stroke). And I do find Win-M (to minimise all
windows, so I can get to a desktop shortcut) useful too.
(Yes, when I've hit that task switcher by mistake on a 7 machine, I've
found it decidedly disconcerting - but that could be just unfamiliarity.
Still, I don't miss not having it [because I have XP, rather than no Win
key].)
Incidentally, this (Samsung) NC20 (large [12"] netbook) has _one_ Win
key, and it's next to the _right_ Ctrl key (where the left one would be
is the Fn key); I still find that _a little_ disconcerting, despite
having used this machine for some hours a day for some years. (Not a
_problem_ - as I said, I don't use it _much_.)