Windows 7 freezes

[TorrentG]

lol I was gonna say exactly what CC did, until I saw he already did.

AVG is terrible and is also causing bsods again like it was notorious for last year.

We take so much flak for our knowledge at times. It is very common for people to say things like, "Well, I still want to use the a/v I've chosen" or "I just know that's not the problem" etc...

Or another popular one is that a/v doesn't really ever cause problems at all.

heh heh Glad you fixed it and enjoy.

 

[Jimmy_Banana]

After I have watched a few movies on a media player, I will confirm what could be great or devastating to me. Looks good so far.

 

[Fire cat]

OMG! Can't someone just look this thread and make a new one? I'm never able to locate who has the problem!

This has to be the longest thread on the forums!

 

[Jimmy_Banana]

I was so glad when i saw this huge thread for the first time, made me feel a tiny bit better about the freezes.
If you dealt with freezes and you weren't an expert, I believe you would too.

 

[TorrentG]

Yes, I agree it's a good resource to read if necessary. No new ground will be covered though. Future problems for other users should be dealt in its own new thread so it has its own attention separate from others.

Each case is its own separate issue.

It's not a rule, only my opinion.

 

[Fire cat]

Definitly. This thread could be used as a *guide*.

But it gets very hard to understand where to start, when something ends, etc... Freezing seems to be really frequent, so it might be smart of someone to make an article about them, but threads like this are just too long.

 

[TrainableMan]

FC, I noticed you mentioned in another thread about one thread running 15 pages long ... I am seeing 57 pages here!

There is a lot of information here but the problem is you could skim over something very important. When this started it was still a release candidate so I skip over the older stuff. Generally when I see a thread this big I read the first page and the last few and if needed work my way back.

 

[clifford_cooley]

I wouldn't want to lock the thread making someone new thinking they can't seek help on this forum. If the thread was locked, this would place a cap on the reference material added to the thread. I don't have anything new to add to the thread that hasn't already been covered in previous post. This doesn't mean there will never be a different view point that hasn't been considered.

Anyone at anytime could be directed to create a new thread of their own. With that said anyone could play the part as a traffic cop. Personally I don't have a problem with the post count, this gives those with basically the same type of problem a chance to help each other out with new or old ideas.

Another plus to having everything in one thread is once you find the one thread, you don't have to search for a different thread for a new idea. All the ideas are in one thread, all it takes is a little time reading the thread from front to back.

 

[Fire cat]

@Trainableman PFFT <- I have nothing more to say on that subject

@Clifford I guess that's true. I just find it gets complicated... Never mind. But I also think it would really be a good idea to make a guide with all possible solutions we have found. This is just an idea

 

[TorrentG]

@Trainableman PFFT <- I have nothing more to say on that subject

@Clifford I guess that's true. I just find it gets complicated... Never mind. But I also think it would really be a good idea to make a guide with all possible solutions we have found. This is just an idea

Here is the comprehensive guide:

1) Remove the current antivirus in safe mode using the tool found here:

AV Uninstallers - Windows 7 Forums

Reboot and install MSE and nothing else, to replace the old antivirus.

2) Update the bios to newest. Set failsafe settings and save, as a test and/or permanent repair.

3) Make sure in the event manager that hard drive errors and not causing the freezes. Defragment the hdds.

4) Update all the drivers from the manufacturers' sites only.

5) Uninstall any unnecessary 3rd party tools that start with Windows.
Use msconfig to disable all 3rd party services temporarily then reboot. See how it goes. If good, enable things one by one while rebooting each time until the issue returns. You've now found the culprit.

That pretty much covers everything with freezes. If you have bsods, then that is entirely different and users should create a new thread with their issue after viewing the sticky thread in that part of the forum.

 

[chris_k]

BTW, I believe my freezing problems were caused by unlocking the extra cores on my cpu. I put it back to X2 configuration and was ok. Then I started bumping up the multiplier and I would get occasional reboots. Now with my 3.3G cpu at 3.6Ghz, it has been more than stable and hasn't seen any freezing or shutdowns.

I'm wondering if freezing could be caused by low-spec RAM or if there's a chance that oem spec bios settings could be tricked into causing mis-timings. From my researching into the freezing, win7 x64 seems a bit finnicky about its hardware.

 

[TrainableMan]

Yes, RAM or CPU under-voltage and lower quality parts can definitely effect performance and cause freezes or BSODs, especially when over-clocking and pushing the parts to their extremes in speed and temperature.

 

[TorrentG]

From my researching into the freezing, win7 x64 seems a bit finnicky about its hardware.

No difference in architecture versions, 32 or 64 bit.

My previous post applies to each equally.

Proper drivers must be used in either scenario. It may be tougher to find proper 64 bit drivers, may be the only difference. That is very minimized nowadays though.

 

[Jimmy_Banana]

Here is the comprehensive guide:

1) Remove the current antivirus in safe mode using the tool found here:

AV Uninstallers - Windows 7 Forums

Reboot and install MSE and nothing else, to replace the old antivirus.

2) Update the bios to newest. Set failsafe settings and save, as a test and/or permanent repair.

3) Make sure in the event manager that hard drive errors and not causing the freezes. Defragment the hdds.

4) Update all the drivers from the manufacturers' sites only.

5) Uninstall any unnecessary 3rd party tools that start with Windows.
Use msconfig to disable all 3rd party services temporarily then reboot. See how it goes. If good, enable things one by one while rebooting each time until the issue returns. You've now found the culprit.

That pretty much covers everything with freezes. If you have bsods, then that is entirely different and users should create a new thread with their issue after viewing the sticky thread in that part of the forum.

1) Awesome couldn't agree more
2) What?
3) Defrag yeah easy
4) Software and hardware?
5) What?

 

[Jimmy_Banana]

Installing MSE over Norton (which I paid for mind you) has reduced my freezing problem by about 60 or 70%.

 

[Frank]

I have temperarally stopped my Computer from freezing. It was real bad. bad enough to make me ready to quit.

What I did was got my Windows 7 premium 64bit disk out of storage and placed it on my desk.

I then went into Control Panel and deleted Adobe Reader x and Adobe air. My computer would not start, Something about somebody's boot was missing. Out came the Windows 7 disk and I clicked on repair. It took me several tries but I finally got my Windows to start. I installed Adobe Reader 9 but Adobe Air was very reluctant because it could'nt find it's installer in the hidden applications folder. I can't remember where, I was too excited I did all this without a freeze. Been working all day on my computer plugging in my exterior harddrives and every thing else that I had unplugged. I played around with Proshow Producer, backed up my harddrive, played music with Muzicman surfed the web with no problems. I also re-started my computer several times and pulled the plug several times just to see how fast the coumputer came to life. Amazing. I'm all set for a while now. Have yourself a good day. Frank

 

[Bugsy]

Thanks for sharing frank!

 

[TrainableMan]

Just FYI, you don't need Adobe Air at all. Most people go back and delete it after it gets force feed onto your system with any other Adobe product you install.

 

[Nibiru2012]

I would recommend using Nitro PDF reader, it's free also and doesn't install unnecessary junk as Adobe does.

Go here to check it out: http://www.nitroreader.com/

 

[Jimmy_Banana]

I stopped all unnecessary programs from booting with my start menu - Adobe and it's accessories being one of them, things have improved greatly. Thanks Nibiru for the link, unfortunately a lot of sites call for Adobe's flash player, which will most probably bring all the junk with it - but I will try it out.