Win7 and XP network

[GOG]

Hello,

So, I may be a bit dim, given my advanced age

Is anyone willing to tell me, in words of one syllable, how to set-up my
NETBOOK loaded with WIN7, so that it will communicate with my home network,
based on XP. Oddly, another computer based on VISTA seems to have no
problems. God save me from Microsoft.

Thanks in advance,

GOG

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Hello,

So, I may be a bit dim, given my advanced age

Is anyone willing to tell me, in words of one syllable, how to set-up my
NETBOOK loaded with WIN7, so that it will communicate with my home network,
based on XP. Oddly, another computer based on VISTA seems to have no
problems. God save me from Microsoft.

Thanks in advance,

GOG

I had some ideas, but when I saw the last sentence in paragraph one, I
realized I'm underqualified.

 

[choro]

I believe you have to create a WORKGROUP as opposed to a HOMEGROUP
(which is what you probably have at the moment) for it to work.
Apparently W7 can't hook up with HOMEGROUP. I had that problem a while
back and had to create a WORKGROUP when I set up my main W7 machine.--
choro
*****

 

[Don Phillipson]

I believe you have to create a WORKGROUP as opposed to a HOMEGROUP (which
is what you probably have at the moment) for it to work.

I.e. a single Workgroup with the same name in all peer computers.
(Win7 uses Homegroup for office networks: only MS can tell us why.)
If in doubt, Leonhard's Windows7 for Dummies is very helpful.

 

[Char Jackson]

I had some ideas, but when I saw the last sentence in paragraph one, I
realized I'm underqualified.

The sentence that stopped me was the requirement to use only words of
one syllable.

 

[Char Jackson]

I.e. a single Workgroup with the same name in all peer computers.
(Win7 uses Homegroup for office networks: only MS can tell us why.)

It has nothing to do with office networks.

Workgroups are compatible with Win 7 and previous versions of Windows,
while Homegroups work with other Win 7 systems.

Personally, I skip both Workgroups and Homegroups, preferring instead
to simply use IP addressing.

 

[...winston]

First for clarity and accuracy.
See Char Jackson comment regarding the Homegroup and Workgroup.
Echoing that same input:
Homegroup is unique to networking two or more Windows 7 machines. It has no relevance or use for/with XP or Vista Machines.

If using Workgroup - all machines should have the same Workgroup name
All machines should have at least one shared folder (i.e. the folder you wish to share on each machine with another)
Preferably all machines should have the same username/profile on each machine
Ensure your firewall allows printer and sharing

Here's a video tutorial from Microsoft
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/...mputers-running-different-versions-of-Windows




--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"GOG" wrote in message
Hello,

So, I may be a bit dim, given my advanced age

Is anyone willing to tell me, in words of one syllable, how to set-up my
NETBOOK loaded with WIN7, so that it will communicate with my home network,
based on XP. Oddly, another computer based on VISTA seems to have no
problems. God save me from Microsoft.

Thanks in advance,

GOG

 

[Paul]

Hello,

So, I may be a bit dim, given my advanced age

Is anyone willing to tell me, in words of one syllable, how to set-up my
NETBOOK loaded with WIN7, so that it will communicate with my home network,
based on XP. Oddly, another computer based on VISTA seems to have no
problems. God save me from Microsoft.

Thanks in advance,

GOG

For mixed computers, try to have them use the same group
(as in WORKGROUP). As well, you can try having identical
accounts and passwords, on the different machines.

So, I'd go to my Windows 7, set it to WORKGROUP, make
sure account "Paul" is there, with password 12345678.

Go to the WinXP machine, set it to WORKGROUP, make
sure account "Paul" is there, with password 12345678.

Then try to make your connection.

Picture of setting WORKGROUP.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Join-or-create-a-workgroup

Char's suggestion of using IP addresses, is if the various
flavors of "network discovery" aren't working. I have to use
that on Linux some times. If you've botched a firewall setting,
sometimes that'll damage a necessary protocol.

And if you enjoy pictures of dialog boxes, there are plenty
on this page

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13197/map-a-network-drive-from-xp-to-windows-7/

There are plenty of tutorials around. The hardest part
is using the right search term. Do I want "share" or "map network drive"
for example ?

Paul

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

The sentence that stopped me was the requirement to use only words of
one syllable.

Oh. I did not see that need. I thank you that you showed me that. I too
think it is hard to use short words and not long ones. The one who asked
us to do that did not do it, though.

Does that mean we can't, or at least should not, help that one?

 

[Char Jackson]

Oh. I did not see that need. I thank you that you showed me that. I too
think it is hard to use short words and not long ones. The one who asked
us to do that did not do it, though.

Nice. I see what you did there.

Does that mean we can't, or at least should not, help that one?

Never say never, but I'm happy to sit this one out. Between the
monosyllabic requirement (why does monosyllabic have so many
syllables?) and the 'God save me' thing, I think it's beyond my
ability to help.

 

[H-Man]

It has nothing to do with office networks.

Workgroups are compatible with Win 7 and previous versions of Windows,
while Homegroups work with other Win 7 systems.

Personally, I skip both Workgroups and Homegroups, preferring instead
to simply use IP addressing.

To further this a bit, Homegroups are for Windows 7 computers only and are
IPv6 based. Workgroups are for all versions of Windows from Win3.11 and up
and are IPv4 based. There are also some restrictions to which versions of
Windows 7 can create Homegroups, but that's another discussion.

The whole thing can get kinda quirky as well (with Workgroups in a mixed
hardware environment). I've seen connections just forgotten and no way to
see another computer on the network. Clearing the DNS cache solves this one
on occasion, but it can get annoying, and there seems to be no reason for
it. I had a Workgroup set up, 3 Win7 machines and an XP laptop that needed
to connect occasionally. One Win7 machine, always the same one, would
forget the connection to another computer, also always the same one. I
could connect in one direction, but never in the other, until I reset the
DNS cache. Weird stuff, but that's MS networking.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Nice. I see what you did there.

Mulþumesc.

BTW, I was amazed by how hard it was to write that paragraph...

Never say never, but I'm happy to sit this one out. Between the
monosyllabic requirement (why does monosyllabic have so many
syllables?) and the 'God save me' thing, I think it's beyond my
ability to help.

Abandoning monosyllables for the moment: perhaps we can be deified so
that we can work to help GOG.

I do have at least one requirement if I decide to do that: no
crucifixions for me, thank you.

 

[Char Jackson]

Mulþumesc.

BTW, I was amazed by how hard it was to write that paragraph...


Abandoning monosyllables for the moment: perhaps we can be deified so
that we can work to help GOG.

I do have at least one requirement if I decide to do that: no
crucifixions for me, thank you.

Seriously? You wouldn't make it as a fringe Filipino. ;-)
<https://www.google.com/search?q=filipino+crucifixion>

(Yes, that's a Google search, but it has pictures, too.)

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Seriously? You wouldn't make it as a fringe Filipino. ;-)
<https://www.google.com/search?q=filipino+crucifixion>

(Yes, that's a Google search, but it has pictures, too.)

I actually had finished my coffee just a second before that. Good thing!

Now that you remind me, I do recall hearing about such things, and even
seeing clips or photos. Makes me shudder a little.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I forgot to mention that a character code above is wrong.

I typed a Romanian word (one of the two or three that I know). The
character that showed as U+00FE (thorn, þ) in your reply was supposed to
be U+021B (t with cedilla), pronounced 'ts' in Romanian. So the word is
multsumesc, not multhumesc. It means thanks.

 

[Char Jackson]

I forgot to mention that a character code above is wrong.

I typed a Romanian word (one of the two or three that I know). The
character that showed as U+00FE (thorn, þ) in your reply was supposed to
be U+021B (t with cedilla), pronounced 'ts' in Romanian. So the word is
multsumesc, not multhumesc. It means thanks.

Thanks for clarifying. I thought it was the name of an ancient god but
wasn't sure.

 

[Char Jackson]

I actually had finished my coffee just a second before that. Good thing!

Now that you remind me, I do recall hearing about such things, and even
seeing clips or photos. Makes me shudder a little.

Driving the spikes doesn't hurt (much), but you can still count me
out. I fell on a 6" spike when I was a kid, having it come right up
through my outstretched hand, (I'm embarrassed to say what I was doing
at the time), and I've stepped on nails a couple of times and had them
go through the sole of my shoe, through my foot, and up through the
top of my shoe. No real pain involved, but it _looks_ like it should
hurt.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Driving the spikes doesn't hurt (much), but you can still count me
out. I fell on a 6" spike when I was a kid, having it come right up
through my outstretched hand, (I'm embarrassed to say what I was doing
at the time), and I've stepped on nails a couple of times and had them
go through the sole of my shoe, through my foot, and up through the
top of my shoe. No real pain involved, but it _looks_ like it should
hurt.

Even just reading about it here feels bad...

 

[SC Tom]

Mulþumesc.

BTW, I was amazed by how hard it was to write that paragraph...


Abandoning monosyllables for the moment: perhaps we can be deified so
that we can work to help GOG.

I think he may be beyond help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_(film)

I thought the nym sounded familiar. I saw this at Kaneohe Bay when it first
came out. 10c for a matinee at that time

 

[GOG]

I think he may be beyond help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_(film)

I thought the nym sounded familiar. I saw this at Kaneohe Bay when it
first came out. 10c for a matinee at that time

I'm sorry if my use of some vernacular has caused some people such hilarity.
The expression "in words of one syllable" was certainly in common use in
Britain when I was younger, and understood pretty universally. Naturally,
it does not literally mean that all, or any, of the words used must consist
of only one syllable. I forget, I'm afraid, that not everyone here is
British. As they say, Britain and America are divided by the fact that they
speak the same language, NOT ALWAYS.

My problem seems to be that the netbook is set up to be in a Homegroup, and
I do not know how to change that to a Workgroup.

GOG