Win 7 SP1 RC

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~BD~

Stan said:
Is there any particular reason why we should rush to install this?
I'm not terribly well informed, but my impression is that anything
critical in SP1 has already been taken care of by the weekly updates.
I'm just an everyday user of my computers, Stan, not one of the experts
posting here - but I don't think 'ordinary' folk should ever install a
Service Pack (or anything else, really!) which has not completed its
test period. I think RC means that it has just come out of its 'Alpha'
stage and has not even got to 'Beta" yet - which Beta is *still* in a
test phase and should, I understand, be avoided by most of us.

Of more interest to me is why Peter Foldes didn't post a direct link to
*this* page from Microsoft:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=c3202ce6-4056-4059-8a1b-3a9b77cdfdda


When I followed the link posted by Mr Foldes I ended up being asked to
log in to Windows Live - screenshot here: http://i53.tinypic.com/124a82d.jpg

I expect someone can explain why Windows Live is involved in gaining
access to the download. It's probably a simple answer! :)

HTH

Dave
 
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DanS

I'm just an everyday user of my computers, Stan, not one of
the experts posting here - but I don't think 'ordinary'
folk should ever install a Service Pack (or anything else,
really!) which has not completed its test period. I think
RC means that it has just come out of its 'Alpha' stage and
has not even got to 'Beta" yet
RC stands for 'Release Candidate', last step before final
release.

Typically there is virtually no difference, if any, between RC
and the final release.
 
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SC Tom

~BD~ said:
I'm just an everyday user of my computers, Stan, not one of the experts
posting here - but I don't think 'ordinary' folk should ever install a
Service Pack (or anything else, really!) which has not completed its test
period. I think RC means that it has just come out of its 'Alpha' stage
and has not even got to 'Beta" yet - which Beta is *still* in a test phase
and should, I understand, be avoided by most of us.

Of more interest to me is why Peter Foldes didn't post a direct link to
*this* page from Microsoft:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=c3202ce6-4056-4059-8a1b-3a9b77cdfdda

When I followed the link posted by Mr Foldes I ended up being asked to log
in to Windows Live - screenshot here: http://i53.tinypic.com/124a82d.jpg

I expect someone can explain why Windows Live is involved in gaining
access to the download. It's probably a simple answer! :)

HTH

Dave
Peter may have a TechNet subscription and that's why that particular link.
We had a subscription where I was working, and all of the IT/IS people got
notifications of this type, along with the CD's and other goodies. That was
a few years ago- I don't know if MS still does that or not. Wasn't a cost I
wanted to incur after retirement :)
 
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~BD~

SC said:
Peter may have a TechNet subscription and that's why that particular
link. We had a subscription where I was working, and all of the IT/IS
people got notifications of this type, along with the CD's and other
goodies. That was a few years ago- I don't know if MS still does that or
not. Wasn't a cost I wanted to incur after retirement :)
Thanks for that Tom.

Have you *any* idea why Windows Live comes into play?

D.
 
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SC Tom

~BD~ said:
Thanks for that Tom.

Have you *any* idea why Windows Live comes into play?

D.
Not sure on that one. I log in automatically when going to the TechNet or
Windows forums sites, so I didn't see the login screen. IIRC, we had to log
in to access the TechNet sites when we had the subscription, but it's been
so long, I can't say for certain.
 
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Seth

~BD~ said:
Thanks for that Tom.

Have you *any* idea why Windows Live comes into play?
Windows Live is how one accesses their paid for Technet or Licensing
website. I have Technet, MSDN and access to the licensing site (where I can
download all the disk images for everything my firm is licensed to use as
well as access our license keys, etc...).

So, as indicated above, if the webpage linked was behind Technet or similar
it would require one's Windows Live ID to access.
 
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Yousuf Khan

Is there any particular reason why we should rush to install this?
I'm not terribly well informed, but my impression is that anything
critical in SP1 has already been taken care of by the weekly updates.
The SP's are a bit more than just a security update, they usually add
new features to the operating system. However, there's no point in
downloading a Release Candidate unless you're willing to be an unpaid
beta tester for Microsoft. I'd say it's better wait for the actual release.

Yousuf Khan
 
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John Aldred

~BD~ wrote:

[Snip]
Thanks for that Tom.

Have you *any* idea why Windows Live comes into play?
It would seem that Microsoft require users of many of their services to be
registered and log in with their Windows Live ID. It's the same ID that I
use to gain access to the discussion forums on
social.technet microsoft.com/forums

The forums here are not restricted to TechNet subscribers and nor is the
download of SP1 RC. This one is a public beta.

To download it you will have to undergo the Genuine Windows Validation
check.
 
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~BD~

SC Tom wrote:

[....]
Not sure on that one. I log in automatically when going to the TechNet
or Windows forums sites, so I didn't see the login screen. IIRC, we had
to log in to access the TechNet sites when we had the subscription, but
it's been so long, I can't say for certain.
I appreciate your responses, SC Tom.

Thank you!
 
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~BD~

Seth said:
Windows Live is how one accesses their paid for Technet or Licensing
website. I have Technet, MSDN and access to the licensing site (where I
can download all the disk images for everything my firm is licensed to
use as well as access our license keys, etc...).

So, as indicated above, if the webpage linked was behind Technet or
similar it would require one's Windows Live ID to access.
Maybe a change is due before too long! ;-)

Thanks for posting! :)
 
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~BD~

John said:
~BD~ wrote:

[Snip]
Thanks for that Tom.

Have you *any* idea why Windows Live comes into play?
It would seem that Microsoft require users of many of their services to be
registered and log in with their Windows Live ID. It's the same ID that I
use to gain access to the discussion forums on
social.technet microsoft.com/forums

The forums here are not restricted to TechNet subscribers and nor is the
download of SP1 RC. This one is a public beta.

To download it you will have to undergo the Genuine Windows Validation
check.
Another interesting and helpful post! Thanks John. :)
 
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Peter Foldes

John Aldred said:
~BD~ wrote:

[Snip]
Thanks for that Tom.

Have you *any* idea why Windows Live comes into play?
It would seem that Microsoft require users of many of their services to be
registered and log in with their Windows Live ID. It's the same ID that I
use to gain access to the discussion forums on
social.technet microsoft.com/forums

The forums here are not restricted to TechNet subscribers and nor is the
download of SP1 RC. This one is a public beta.

To download it you will have to undergo the Genuine Windows Validation
check.

John

RC is out of Beta and it is a prelease version which will not have any changes made
to it when released as Gold. You can take my word for that.

Beta is a Beta and RC (Release Candidate) is past the Beta change. Please John do
not feed wrong information especially to gullible persons like BD.

--
Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
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Nil

Beta is a Beta and RC (Release Candidate) is past the Beta change.
Please John do not feed wrong information especially to gullible
persons like BD.
I have seen Release Candidates get revised. That's why its only a
Candidate, not the final release.

What "wrong information" did John relate? It looks correct to me.
 

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