win 7 home prem pie chart?

[s|b]

I moved my music to an external USB drive and it seems to work just fine
now.

Probably best to make a backup if you have that much music...

 

[gufus]

My programs actually take up very little space compared to my music.
I moved my music to an external USB drive and it seems to work just fine
now.

Remember, USB Flash cards have a limited life. (best to use HDD's for
backup's)

IMHO

 

[Bob I]

Remember, USB Flash cards have a limited life. (best to use HDD's for
backup's)

IMHO

Typically "external USB drive" IS a HD in an enclosure. Thumb drive and
memory stick are terms used for the USB flash devices.

 

[gufus]

Typically "external USB drive" IS a HD in an enclosure. Thumb drive and
memory stick are terms used for the USB flash devices.

Ah..

 

[s|b]

That's why I make double backups. Not on a flash drive, but on external
hdd's. I've got two LaCie drives and one from Maxtor (which /is/ a
typical hdd with a case).

Typically "external USB drive" IS a HD in an enclosure. Thumb drive and
memory stick are terms used for the USB flash devices.

I don't think that is true. Take a look at LaCie's Mobile Hard Drives:
<http://www.lacie.com/us/products/range.htm?id=10036>

It's all about SSD and USB 3.0 so it seems.

 

[Ken Blake]

Remember, USB Flash cards have a limited life. (best to use HDD's for
backup's)

Note Bob I's response, and also note that all media have limited
lives, including hard drives. That's one of the reasons why it's best
to have more than a single backup.

 

[gufus]

Note Bob I's response, and also note that all media have limited
lives, including hard drives.

That's why I'm not interested in SSD's. (for now)

 

[gufus]

I don't think that is true. Take a look at LaCie's Mobile Hard Drives:
<http://www.lacie.com/us/products/range.htm?id=10036>

It's all about SSD and USB 3.0 so it seems.

Vcool.. always something new eh.

 

[Paul]

Vcool.. always something new eh.

But, you don't have to wait on Lacie to own one.

You could have built one of those for your own self.

1) Buy USB3 to SATA enclosure.
2) Buy SATA SSD.
3) Plug parts together. Done.

By picking your own parts, you can get the price you want.

*******

http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?id=10599

"Shocking speeds up to 385MB/s (SSD)"

Maybe over Thunderbolt interface, but not over USB3.

*******

It comes formatted HFS+.

http://www.macworld.com/article/201...ries-portable-ssd-is-fast-and-affordable.html

A non-inquisitive mind did the testing. As a result,
we have to pick the benchies out of here carefully.
I've deleted what I feel isn't real.

"Via Thunderbolt

wrote a 10GB file at 200.9 MBps while
reading the same file at 245.6 MBps.

To write/read a 10GB folder, the drive scored
194.9 MBps and 236.9 MBps, respectively.
"

So it's not 385MB/sec. Even over Thunderbolt.
The 10GB single file test, should have given an opportunity
to see the best test results from the drive.

"While connected via USB 3.0

To write/read a 10GB file, the Rugged drive
scored 186.2 MBps and 247.1 MBps respectively.

When transferring our 10GB folder, the drive yielded ...
190.5 MBps, and ... 240.8 MBps."

Well, thank goodness the drive never reported more than
the 336MB/sec theoretical max possible over USB3. So the
drive actually rates around ~250MB/sec, which is pretty
good. Your average USB3 enclosure might achieve ~200MB/sec
if you built your own disk enclosure + SSD drive. The USB3
speeds possible are listed here. USB3 holds back the very
best of SSD drives. The best SSD drives are around 525MB/sec+.
USB3 holds them back.

http://www.nordichardware.com/Archive/LucidPort-announce-USB-3.0-to-SATA-bridge-chip.html

I don't know what an "AJA system test" is, but whatever
it is, it is not accurate. That's why I deleted all
references to it, in my copy/paste. The sustained transfer
rate tests, are more indicative of what to expect in usage.

It is possible, that if the SSD drive was pulled from
the enclosure, and connected to a SATA III port on a
motherboard, that the 385MB/sec number can be sustained.
So that spec could be for the SSD, sans enclosure. But
that's not why we buy the blasted things, for exaggerated
specs. My flashlight works at the speed of light, but
that doesn't help me in any practical way. Neither does
quoting a transfer rate I can't access, help me. The
advertising bumpf should state ~250MB/sec.

HTH,
Paul

 

[Robin Bignall]

That's why I make double backups. Not on a flash drive, but on external
hdd's. I've got two LaCie drives and one from Maxtor (which /is/ a
typical hdd with a case).

I've got a LaCie external USB3 drive, and it runs quite hot, getting up
to 55 Celsius during a long session. I have the LaCie desktop manager
turn it off after 2 minutes of inactivity, but that seems to make no
difference. What's your experience?

 

[gufus]

specs. My flashlight works at the speed of light, but
that doesn't help me in any practical way. Neither does
Hehehe..

quoting a transfer rate I can't access, help me. The
advertising bumpf should state ~250MB/sec.

A lot faster than anything I have. Heck, I don't even have any SSD's.

 

[s|b]

I've got a LaCie external USB3 drive, and it runs quite hot, getting up
to 55 Celsius during a long session. I have the LaCie desktop manager
turn it off after 2 minutes of inactivity, but that seems to make no
difference. What's your experience?

I'm afraid I can't help you with that. I've only got two of the older
models which aren't displayed anymore. Both don't display temperature
(no moving parts, I guess). And I mostly use them as backup.

LaCie Rikiki USB 2.0
<http://www.lacie.com/us/support/support_manifest.htm?id=10460>

With XP I could run LaCie USB Boost, but this isn't supported for W7.

The other one is a simple LaCie Mobile Disk USB 2.0:
<http://www.lacie.com/us/support/support_manifest.htm?id=10026>

LaCie Rikiki USB 3.0 (500GB) is available in the shop for about 100 euro
and I've been very tempted (since my system supports USB 3.0), but as
long as the old drives work... Which type of LaCie drive are you talking
about?

 

[s|b]

That's why I'm not interested in SSD's. (for now)

When I assembled the computer I'm working on I chose to put in an SSD
for the OS (Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1) and software. I'm not
disappointed, it's very fast and according to some software I can use
this SSD for another 9 years (give or take).

 

[gufus]

When I assembled the computer I'm working on I chose to put in an SSD
for the OS (Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1) and software. I'm not
disappointed, it's very fast and according to some software I can use
this SSD for another 9 years (give or take).

That's pretty good eh, for life use. (Ah.. maybe one day)

 

[Bob I]

That's why I make double backups. Not on a flash drive, but on external
hdd's. I've got two LaCie drives and one from Maxtor (which /is/ a
typical hdd with a case).


I don't think that is true. Take a look at LaCie's Mobile Hard Drives:
<http://www.lacie.com/us/products/range.htm?id=10036>

It's all about SSD and USB 3.0 so it seems.

Please take the time to actually READ the page contents you linked to.
There are only 2 out of 11 that are SSD vs HDD. So "typically" is still
correct.

 

[Robin Bignall]

I'm afraid I can't help you with that. I've only got two of the older
models which aren't displayed anymore. Both don't display temperature
(no moving parts, I guess). And I mostly use them as backup.

LaCie Rikiki USB 2.0
<http://www.lacie.com/us/support/support_manifest.htm?id=10460>

With XP I could run LaCie USB Boost, but this isn't supported for W7.

The other one is a simple LaCie Mobile Disk USB 2.0:
<http://www.lacie.com/us/support/support_manifest.htm?id=10026>

LaCie Rikiki USB 3.0 (500GB) is available in the shop for about 100 euro
and I've been very tempted (since my system supports USB 3.0), but as
long as the old drives work... Which type of LaCie drive are you talking
about?

Mine's a P9230, 2 Terabytes. I get the temperature from Hard Disk
Sentinel.

 

[Paul]

Mine's a P9230, 2 Terabytes. I get the temperature from Hard Disk
Sentinel.

Temperature is available via S.M.A.R.T . That is how it is made
accessible. But then it's a question of whether there is a path
to get there - like SMART might not work on the other side of
soft-RAID.

Paul

 

[Robin Bignall]

Temperature is available via S.M.A.R.T . That is how it is made
accessible. But then it's a question of whether there is a path
to get there - like SMART might not work on the other side of
soft-RAID.

I don't know; don't use RAID. I've read that temperature is not a major
cause of HDD failure, and that HDS feature of checking your drive
statistics against those reported by others shows that I'm running a few
degrees higher than the average. LaCie drives get pretty high ratings
on Amazon, so it's just idle curiosity on my part to ask what others
see.

 

[Ken Blake]

When I assembled the computer I'm working on I chose to put in an SSD
for the OS (Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1) and software. I'm not
disappointed, it's very fast and according to some software I can use
this SSD for another 9 years (give or take).

It's that "give or take"; nobody knows how accurate that will be. Nine
years is very good, even for a traditional spinning hard drive. My
guess is that nine years for today's SSDs is an overstatement, but
that will change very soon.

But almost certainly we are only a very years away from the time when
spinning hard drives will be completely obsolete; everything will be
SSDs.

 

[Paul]

I don't know; don't use RAID. I've read that temperature is not a major
cause of HDD failure, and that HDS feature of checking your drive
statistics against those reported by others shows that I'm running a few
degrees higher than the average. LaCie drives get pretty high ratings
on Amazon, so it's just idle curiosity on my part to ask what others
see.

Lacie has had issues with power adapters on some of their products.

http://joemaller.com/1424/worst-component-ever/

Lacie was traditionally a boutique Mac supplier. That's why one
of the drives I looked at, was formatted HFS+ at the factory.
And why you can find Thunderbolt as an interface option.

Lacie has been bought by Seagate (why exactly, I don't know).
It was purchased for $186 million. So it was a decent sized company
(more than a two car garage operation). It'll be interesting
to see what direction they head in. It says here "Seagate wants margin",
and I'm kinda curious how they think they'll get it. Seagate
already makes its own external disks, so they already do stuff
like this.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/seagate-buys-lacie-good-for-us/1675

They'll need to sell something, that "doesn't look like what they
already make". So consumers will spend more for it.

Paul