Where can I buy a legit/valid Windows 7 key?

[VanguardLH]

OK. Point taken. But you seem to forget that you have at least to buy
some hardware to qualify to buy the OEM version. Though I agree this may
be only some sort of legal technicality.

But this does NOT stop the buyer of the OS whether the retail version,
the upgrade version OR the OEM version being fleeced. How much do you
think MS charge say DELL for the OS as opposed to the individual buying
1 copy of the OS?

There is no way you can get out of this one! IF you are honest that is
and admit it!

Now you're confusing the seat count for licenses. It has been long
traditional that volume licensing is far cheaper than single seats.

Yes, I know about the hardware requirement for OEM versions but the
System Builder license doesn't have that requirement. OEM licensing
died with Windows XP. System Builder licensing started with Vista.

https://partner.microsoft.com/global/licensing/licensingprograms/systembuilderlicense

"A system builder is anyone who assembles, reassembles, or installs
software on a new or used computer system."

Remember that a used computer qualifies as hardware for even the old OEM
licensing scheme. In fact, many companies hang on to old hosts for
replacement parts, and replacement can be the whole system case and its
contents. You think anyone has to remove a component from and old host
and then replace it back into that old host to show that some hardware
got involved with the OEM license?

 

[Char Jackson]

Not correct. XP Home and Vista Home would use only a single processor
if you had more than one installed. But both would use a multi-core
CPU without a problem.

And Windows 7 Home Premium can use two CPUs.




Not true of Windows 7. And for Windows XP and Vista, you are mixing up
number of processors and number of cores in a single processor.

Thanks, Ken. The voice of reason, as always.

 

[Ken Blake]

Thanks, Ken. The voice of reason, as always.

You are welcome. And thank *you* for the kind words.

 

[Alex Clayton]

But this does NOT stop the buyer of the OS whether the retail version, the
upgrade version OR the OEM version being fleeced. How much do you think MS
charge say DELL for the OS as opposed to the individual buying 1 copy of
the OS?

There is no way you can get out of this one! IF you are honest that is and
admit it!

So we need a new law? What?
I can go buy single roll of TP at one price, but if I want to buy a boxcar
load the price will be a fraction per roll. So did I get fleeced because I
chose to buy one roll? Want the same price Dell pays? Offer to buy as many
licenses as they do and you will get their price. I buy my steak at a joint
that serves small stores and restaurants. Buy Top Sirloin for about half
what it runs in the store, but I have to buy a whole butt, around 20 pounds
to get that deal. Bring it home, cut it up into what I want for steaks,
roast and hamburger. Now should I go tell the store that they are screwing
me if they will not sell me one steak for $2.40 a pound?

 

[Alex Clayton]

Hello.

I recently installed Windows 7 UE retail, but haven't activated it. I
like it so I want to buy a valid/legit key. Where can I buy one or do I
have to buy the whole package even though I already installed it from a
borrowed DVD?

Thank you in advance.
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I went through a long drawn out deal with Acer a while back where a new
laptops license for Win7 was no longer valid. Microsoft had a site to get
valid. I paid them online, about $110.00 IIRC, and they validated the
license on line right then, and then sent me a Disc for it in case I ever
have to re do it. I suspect that if you go on line with the one you have
they will tell you it is not valid then offer the same. Might be a little
more for Ultimate if that is what you mean by UE, mine is the Home Premium.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I buy my steak at a joint that serves small stores and restaurants.
Buy Top Sirloin for about half what it runs in the store, but I have
to buy a whole butt, around 20 pounds to get that deal. Bring it
home, cut it up into what I want for steaks, roast and hamburger.

I'll take my Windows 7 medium rare, please.

I can't resist a pun, sorry. No, not actually sorry

 

[ray]

OK. Point taken. But you seem to forget that you have at least to buy
some hardware to qualify to buy the OEM version. Though I agree this may
be only some sort of legal technicality.

But this does NOT stop the buyer of the OS whether the retail version,
the upgrade version OR the OEM version being fleeced. How much do you
think MS charge say DELL for the OS as opposed to the individual buying
1 copy of the OS?

There is no way you can get out of this one! IF you are honest that is
and admit it!

If you don't like the MS pricing policies there are, of course, other
options

 

[Char Jackson]

I'll take my Windows 7 medium rare, please.

I can't resist a pun, sorry. No, not actually sorry

You and your puns. I tried to think of something I could add, but
nearly ended up with a case of trichotillomania, so I mellowed out
with some omphaloskepsis. Ahh, much better.

 

[GreyCloud]

Yes, it certainly was, as was XP and Vista.

<http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4092430>

and

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart>

Maximum CPUs for all Home versions is 1.

That means one cpu socket... which could be a 6 core cpu chip.

 

[choro]

I have nothing to say about volume licences and hence discounted prices
BUT the discounts must be realistic. OR RATHER the small volume price
must be set at a realistic rather than an inflated level which is what
happens in real life.

I remember seeing car tyres at 70% discount. Now who on earth is
supposed to be making such high profits that they can afford to
regularly give 70% discounts to individual customers?

And if others don't or can't follow the logic of my line of thinking, I
certainly have no desire to carry on this discussion with them as I
believe they are brainwashed into buying everything they are fooled to
believe.

Price lists and suggested prices are a complete fake designed to enable
the big boys to give "discounts" to other big boys down the line. And I
can certainly vouch for this as I am in a position to know. I was
involved in these matters for a quarter of a century!

The proprietors of "corner shops" as they are called in the UK and their
customers are the ones who get screwed right and proper!

The market out there is a right proper jungle! But not only that it is
also a MANIPULATED JUNGLE!

 

[choro]

If you don't like the MS pricing policies there are, of course, other
options

But being a critic of such pricing policies is also my right!

 

[VanguardLH]

I have nothing to say about volume licences and hence discounted prices
BUT the discounts must be realistic. OR RATHER the small volume price
must be set at a realistic rather than an inflated level which is what
happens in real life.

I remember seeing car tyres at 70% discount. Now who on earth is
supposed to be making such high profits that they can afford to
regularly give 70% discounts to individual customers?

Apparently you have never heard of or seen rebates. Now who on earth is
supposed to be making such high profits that they can afford to
regularly give the rebated price to individual customers? Only some
make use of the rebates. The price for the software is the major source
of revenue to Microsoft, anyway. You think end users are typically
buying volume licenses? Yeah, right. It's corporations that buy volume
licenses - AND corporations buy support contracts or buy lots of trouble
tickets. The revenue generated from support of the product far
outstrips the revenue generated from the product alone.

Considering that Microsoft, IBM, and other major software houses have
managed to survive for decades will providing reduced costs for voluming
licensing disproves any claims you make regarding marketing knowledge.
It has been working for a long time.

It's apparent you haven't been involved in operating a business or even
working for a large corporation long enough to burst the bubble of
experiencing your company outside the bubble for your limited tasks to
understand its sales and marketing schemes. I've never been in Sales or
Marketing but companies doing volume licensing or discounts to volume
purchases have existed for so long and I don't limit my view to just my
select tasks to perform just my job that it's almost impossible for
anyone that has been working for even 5 years to not understand how all
that works.

 

[choro]

Apparently you have never heard of or seen rebates. Now who on earth is
supposed to be making such high profits that they can afford to
regularly give the rebated price to individual customers? Only some
make use of the rebates. The price for the software is the major source
of revenue to Microsoft, anyway. You think end users are typically
buying volume licenses? Yeah, right. It's corporations that buy volume
licenses - AND corporations buy support contracts or buy lots of trouble
tickets. The revenue generated from support of the product far
outstrips the revenue generated from the product alone.

Considering that Microsoft, IBM, and other major software houses have
managed to survive for decades will providing reduced costs for voluming
licensing disproves any claims you make regarding marketing knowledge.
It has been working for a long time.

It's apparent you haven't been involved in operating a business or even
working for a large corporation long enough to burst the bubble of
experiencing your company outside the bubble for your limited tasks to
understand its sales and marketing schemes. I've never been in Sales or
Marketing but companies doing volume licensing or discounts to volume
purchases have existed for so long and I don't limit my view to just my
select tasks to perform just my job that it's almost impossible for
anyone that has been working for even 5 years to not understand how all
that works.

Look, I know what I am talking about and I understand the need for
rebates etc. I have got nothing against that. What I am objecting to is
the very fact that normal prices are artificially set very high in the
first place so that artificially high rebates can be given.

If you haven't yet grasped this point, then you haven't understood
marketing. It is natural for volume buyers to get rebates which the
manufacturer can actually afford to give because they are saving in
overheads by selling in volume. But the rebates are far, far higher that
the savings achieved by volume selling.

You talk like someone indoctrinated! Someone parroting!

 

[ray]

But being a critic of such pricing policies is also my right!

Sure - your choice: bitch about it or vote with your feet.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

trichotillomania

Unfair! It's not in my dictionary :-(

Of course, Google knows all

 

[Char Jackson]

Unfair! It's not in my dictionary :-(

Of course, Google knows all

 

[choro]

Sure - your choice: bitch about it or vote with your feet.

One way of admitting defeat! ;-)

 

[Char Jackson]

One way of admitting defeat! ;-)

Or one way of admitting reality...;-)

 

[choro]

Or one way of admitting reality...;-)

Well, OK! I'll have to agree with you. But honestly, it's not that I am
anti Windows but I cringe at the cost of buying yet another copy of the
OEM version of Windows every time I build a new PC.

Buying the retail version is no option really as it is so much more
expensive and also because every time I build a new PC it is time to
move over to a newer version of Windows too OR I am not yet completely
discarding my older PC. So OEM it is for me.

However the cost spread over x number of years isn't too bad but I just
can't help feeling that people who buy laptops or ready-made PCs
effectively pay a damn sight less for their Windows OSs.

Which is why I feel hard done by!

 

[VanguardLH]

The price for the software is the major source
of revenue to Microsoft, anyway.

oops, should've been "isn't", not "is".