Where are folder Options in W-7

[Valorie *~~]

In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down OS
missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
W-7?

W-7/SP2/Home Premium

 

[Barking]

In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down OS
missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
W-7?

First google hit:

http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html

 

[Valorie *~~]

...there is no such OS "W-7/SP2/Home Premium".

You're right.

Are you running Vista/SP2? Did you come from XP?
For folder options go to Control Panel/Folder Options.

I'm talking about the new W-7 PC.

 

[Valorie *~~]

First google hit:

http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html

Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't even
think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all. How do
people even know what to Google for. I see there are no extensions on many
files. What the hell is the point of removing the extensions? I can't tell
if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever sorry I bought that PC
w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a PC up and running. This
is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(

 

[Stan Brown]

In folders - where are Tools, the Drop down menu, Folder Options etc?
Where is File, Edit, View? I feel like I'm working with a watered down OS
missing most of it's features. How do I find or turn these things on in
W-7?

My answer is "Right where they always were, at the top of the
window." If you don't see them, then I guess it's possible to
suppress them in Windows 7 but I can't imagine how you did it.

W-7/SP2/Home Premium

Please stop posting an impossible OS identification. If you have
Windows 7 then you *don't* have SP2.

 

[SC Tom]

Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't
even think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all.
How do people even know what to Google for. I see there are no
extensions on many files. What the hell is the point of removing the
extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever
sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a
PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(

Did you not use any Windows OS since Win95 Original Edition? Most of these
options have been around for a very long time, and the method to get to them
is not all that different.

 

[Nil]

How do people even know what to Google for.

http://www.google.com/search?q="windows+7"+"folder+options"

Seems pretty logical to me.

I see there are no extensions on many files. What the hell is the
point of removing the extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or
Gifs on W-7.

It's been that way since Windows 95 or earlier. That was 15 years
ago.

God an I ever sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more
than a day to get a PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits.

I get the impression you'd complain no matter what.

I agree that some of the changes in the Vista/Windows7 seem
arbitrary, but the functionality is still there. If the interface
didn't change, people would have been complaining that it looked
old-fashioned. You just have to learn it, just like you had to learn
Windows 3 after using DOS, or Windows 95 after learning Windows 3,
or Windows XP after Windows 95/98/ME/2000.

 

[Helroy]

First google hit:

http://malektips.com/windows-7-explorer-toggle-menu-bar.html

Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't even
think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all. How do
people even know what to Google for. I see there are no extensions on many
files. What the hell is the point of removing the extensions? I can't tell
if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever sorry I bought that PC
w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a PC up and running. This
is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(



Quit trolling and buy yourself a book called:
*Windows for Dummies.*

 

[John Ferrell]

[snip...]

Did you not use any Windows OS since Win95 Original Edition? Most of these
options have been around for a very long time, and the method to get to them
is not all that different.

I like w7!
Having said that:
It would be nice to have an GUI that would allow simple customizing of
the user interface along with the quick switch available that would
allow using the current Windows operating GUI.

That way I would not have to spend so much time hunting for
incantations that I know are there, just not where.

I could then keep a simplified GUI for my clients (family & friends)
who just want to do the common uses on the computer.

My first big question when I went to W7 was how to find my way back to
the desktop. After Goggling and chasing the answers I found an app
that I could keep on the task bar that did the job. A few weeks later
I stumbled onto the "hidden" button on the lower right corner of the
screen. When my grand daughter brought her fiance to meet the family I
proudly showed him what I had discovered. Then he showed me the "hot
Key" way back to the Desktop.

After a split second of embarrassment I recovered and promptly
notified him that I was renaming him "Keeper". I wish that they lived
closer.

I think this scenario is typical. I am not a green rookie. I have been
living and breathing computers since they were constructed with vacuum
tubes and relays. The inflexible interfaces we continue to struggle
are both artificial and unnecessary.

I have no real problem with using the New Office GUI's other than a
lot of my clients are really just wanting to get the job done, they
are more than annoyed that they are expected to learn new interfaces
that do the "same old stuff"!

Being in the business means that whatever is being used is what I need
to know so I really don't care what dumb changes are made. I will, as
always, try to get on top of the problems as quickly as possible. You
don't have to be smart to deal with these thins, just committed.

So go ahead and hide the important stuff, we will figure it out
eventually. But, it is an area that your competition exploit to take
your business. The number one reason I hear from those who jump to
Apple is that it is easier to use...

John Ferrell W8CCW

 

[johnbee]

You're right.

I'm talking about the new W-7 PC.

I have followed this thread with interest. You appear to be the only other
person here who has noticed that email software is becoming worse. I don't
know why that is, (I am fairly sure Microsoft made wlm deliberately not good
because of the monopoly stuff; of course Usenet is I suppose disliked by
'the authorities' so they hope it is dying out. My ISP does not even
provide Usenet access.

For me, Windows 7 is hugely different from my previous version, XP, but I
realise that it is actually very customizable and the security gives good
options but mystifying to most people I suspect. Computer security is
extremely complex and needs a big effort of studying and then planning
before setting up a system how one wants it.

It might not be long before you decide to try some backup software and then
you will rapidly revise upwards your opinions of all previous software:
Windows 7 backup is great on paper, the best by far, but it does not
actually work, and all the others I have tried have been junk and it has put
me off paying money for one - I am a determined type though and will find
the answer. I am fairly sure that they want us to pay for cloud storage so
they try to nudge us onto it.

Remember how you liked Outlook Express and it did what you want without all
that damn tedious logging in and long waits while things churned away, and
the other stuff you liked? Well, you will at some time in the future change
to Windows 9 (having given 8 a miss) and you will bitch and moan about the
new stuff and wish it was as good as what you are now moaning about.

 

[Jeff Layman]

I have followed this thread with interest. You appear to be the only
other person here who has noticed that email software is becoming worse.

_All_ software is becoming worse because the only way to sell it is by
adding new features, most of which are unnecessary. It's only when
you've installed it do you realise it is not as efficient as the
previous version, and you have to spend hours trying to work out how to
return it to a semblance of its previous self which you can actually use.

For me, Windows 7 is hugely different from my previous version, XP, but
I realise that it is actually very customizable and the security gives
good options but mystifying to most people I suspect. Computer security
is extremely complex and needs a big effort of studying and then
planning before setting up a system how one wants it.

ISTM that MS have changed some things just for the sake of changing
them, and it is not easy to change them back without registry hacks. So
I think the main problem is that it is not simply customisable where you
want it to be! Win7's security is pretty good. UAC is a bit of a
nuisance at times, but I leave it alone as it is a useful security device.

It might not be long before you decide to try some backup software and
then you will rapidly revise upwards your opinions of all previous
software: Windows 7 backup is great on paper, the best by far, but it
does not actually work, and all the others I have tried have been junk
and it has put me off paying money for one - I am a determined type
though and will find the answer. I am fairly sure that they want us to
pay for cloud storage so they try to nudge us onto it.

MS have never got backup working properly. It works in Win7, but takes
hours. Anyway, backup isn't the only thing - it's the restore which
everything hangs on! I used Acronis for XP, but never had to use
restore, and use Easeus for Win7, but haven't tried to restore yet.

Remember how you liked Outlook Express and it did what you want without
all that damn tedious logging in and long waits while things churned
away, and the other stuff you liked? Well, you will at some time in the
future change to Windows 9 (having given 8 a miss) and you will bitch
and moan about the new stuff and wish it was as good as what you are now
moaning about.

Windows 9? Don't you mean Windows 6.3? Well, they might have got Vista
right by then. ;-)

 

[KCB]

Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't
even think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all.
How do people even know what to Google for. I see there are no
extensions on many files. What the hell is the point of removing the
extensions? I can't tell if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever
sorry I bought that PC w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a
PC up and running. This is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(

File Extensions are enabled/disabled in the same place. They are disabled
by default. This has been the case for at least the last 3 versions of
Windows, it's not new.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Thank you. This is totally crazy what MS did. A total newbie wouldn't even
think to ask. These changes are useless and of no benefit at all. How do
people even know what to Google for. I see there are no extensions on many
files. What the hell is the point of removing the extensions? I can't tell
if they're jpgs or Gifs on W-7. God an I ever sorry I bought that PC
w/W-7. It never took me more than a day to get a PC up and running. This
is the *&^%$#@ pits. >:-(



Quit trolling and buy yourself a book called:
*Windows for Dummies.*

A person after my own heart. I gave similar advice in one of Valorie's
earlier rants^b^b^b^b^b posts, and I was going to repost it here until I
saw your post.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

My answer is "Right where they always were, at the top of the
window." If you don't see them, then I guess it's possible to
suppress them in Windows 7 but I can't imagine how you did it.

They are suppressed by default. Pressing Alt pops them up temporarily
and there is also an option to make them permanent.

Barking put a link to that info earlier in this thread.

 

[Valorie *~~]

I have followed this thread with interest. You appear to be the only
other person here who has noticed that email software is becoming worse.
I don't know why that is, (I am fairly sure Microsoft made wlm
deliberately not good because of the monopoly stuff; of course Usenet is
I suppose disliked by 'the authorities' so they hope it is dying out. My
ISP does not even provide Usenet access.

Thank you. I'm glad someone here agrees. The last really GOOD OS from MS was
XP. Just about everyone I know agrees. One friend took W-7 back and got a
new PC with XP on it. She's happy as a lark now. MS destroyed a perfectly
fine easy to use mail/news client. Shame on them. I believe they dumped
their news server because of all the negative feedback from unhappy people.
My ISP dropped NGs long ago.

For me, Windows 7 is hugely different from my previous version, XP, but I
realise that it is actually very customizable and the security gives good
options but mystifying to most people I suspect. Computer security is
extremely complex and needs a big effort of studying and then planning
before setting up a system how one wants it.

How do I shut the security crap off? Have you any idea? I bitterly resent
being told I need permission to do something on my own PC. >:-( If I screw
something up it's no sweat off MS's back.

It might not be long before you decide to try some backup software and
then you will rapidly revise upwards your opinions of all previous
software: Windows 7 backup is great on paper, the best by far, but it does
not actually work, and all the others I have tried have been junk and it
has put me off paying money for one - I am a determined type though and
will find the answer. I am fairly sure that they want us to pay for cloud
storage so they try to nudge us onto it.

I back everything up on an external Seagate drive or flash drives.

Remember how you liked Outlook Express and it did what you want without
all that damn tedious logging in and long waits while things churned away,
and the other stuff you liked? Well, you will at some time in the future
change to Windows 9 (having given 8 a miss) and you will bitch and moan
about the new stuff and wish it was as good as what you are now moaning
about.

Oh you are so wrong! We have 2 XP PCs and 2 Vista PCs, one a laptop.
They will last for many years. They can always be repaired. I will never
buy a PC with a MS OS "above" Vista. God only knows how bad they'll get as
the numbers go up. I can't believe how MS is doing such a bad job on it's
OS's. I can see why some of the people we know have switched to Macs.

 

[Valorie *~~]

Did you not use any Windows OS since Win95 Original Edition? Most of these
options have been around for a very long time, and the method to get to
them is not all that different.

They were there and visible by default on all the other PCs. I would never
even know they existed otherwise. So far I've set up the original W/95, W98
& 98SE, XP and Vista. I never ran into anything like this on any of them. I
still can't move files without "permission." This infuriates us both. >:-(

 

[Valorie *~~]

[snip...]

Did you not use any Windows OS since Win95 Original Edition? Most of these
options have been around for a very long time, and the method to get to
them
is not all that different.

I like w7!
Having said that:
It would be nice to have an GUI that would allow simple customizing of
the user interface along with the quick switch available that would
allow using the current Windows operating GUI.

That way I would not have to spend so much time hunting for
incantations that I know are there, just not where.

And what the heck was the point of MS moving things around like that? How is
it an improvement?

I could then keep a simplified GUI for my clients (family & friends)
who just want to do the common uses on the computer.

My first big question when I went to W7 was how to find my way back to
the desktop. After Goggling and chasing the answers I found an app
that I could keep on the task bar that did the job.

What app is that? I can't get to the desktop with one click anymore on W-7.
I miss the "desktop" icon on the taskbar.

A few weeks later

I stumbled onto the "hidden" button on the lower right corner of the
screen. When my grand daughter brought her fiance to meet the family I
proudly showed him what I had discovered. Then he showed me the "hot
Key" way back to the Desktop.

What hot key? Why does MS keep this a secret? There is no button on the
lower right corner of the
screen.

After a split second of embarrassment I recovered and promptly
notified him that I was renaming him "Keeper". I wish that they lived
closer.

I think this scenario is typical. I am not a green rookie. I have been
living and breathing computers since they were constructed with vacuum
tubes and relays. The inflexible interfaces we continue to struggle
are both artificial and unnecessary.

I have no real problem with using the New Office GUI's other than a
lot of my clients are really just wanting to get the job done, they
are more than annoyed that they are expected to learn new interfaces
that do the "same old stuff"!

There you go! I want to set the thing up and move on. Not spend days as I
am trying to get some work done and have some fun on the machine. This so
far has been nothing but aggravation for days now. >:-(

Being in the business means that whatever is being used is what I need
to know so I really don't care what dumb changes are made. I will, as
always, try to get on top of the problems as quickly as possible. You
don't have to be smart to deal with these thins, just committed.

So go ahead and hide the important stuff, we will figure it out
eventually. But, it is an area that your competition exploit to take
your business. The number one reason I hear from those who jump to
Apple is that it is easier to use...

MS can't seem to learn anything. The average PC buyer out there is NOT a
techie, Nerd or Geek. That can't seem to get through to MS.

 

[Valorie *~~]

http://www.google.com/search?q="windows+7"+"folder+options"

Seems pretty logical to me.


It's been that way since Windows 95 or earlier. That was 15 years
ago.

Not true. They were there by default on the HP PCs we bought right from W95
to Vista. We would never have known they existed.

I get the impression you'd complain no matter what.

That's your opinion. Was I here complaining every time I bought a PC over
the years?

I agree that some of the changes in the Vista/Windows7 seem
arbitrary, but the functionality is still there.

Really? All you do is surf the web and use online Forums? Tell me how to
move WM to W-7 so I can again enjoy getting email and Usenet. Tell me how to
"get permission" to move files on my own PC.

If the interface

didn't change, people would have been complaining that it looked
old-fashioned.

Skins don't matter. Changes and removing things and hiding things just to
sell more SO is absurd.

You just have to learn it, just like you had to learn

Windows 3 after using DOS, or Windows 95 after learning Windows 3,
or Windows XP after Windows 95/98/ME/2000.

Tell me.... how do I get complete control of my own PC so I can move files
on W-7 so it's "functional" for what we need the PC for, not what MS or
anyone else thinks is functional for us.

 

[Valorie *~~]

File Extensions are enabled/disabled in the same place. They are disabled
by default. This has been the case for at least the last 3 versions of
Windows, it's not new.

See above. They were enabled on all the HP PCs we bought since 1995. I
didn't even know you could hide them for a long time.

 

[Valorie *~~]

A person after my own heart. I gave similar advice in one of Valorie's
earlier rants^b^b^b^b^b posts, and I was going to repost it here until I
saw your post.

You haven't noticed that books weren't needed for the other OS systems MS
put out before W-7? You took it out of the box and in the morning and by
nightfall you were all set up and ready to go. Now people need to buy a
book to get the newest OS working.... pathetic.