what to put on partition?

G

Gene E. Bloch

These and more tricks greatly reduce the amount of writing to a SSD. On
one of my machines I eliminated all writes except about 300MB a day. And
I guess I went to far on that one. As that SLC SSD won't hit 100,000
writes per cell until about 8,000 years later. ;-)
For sure, you *have* to quit smoking.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Another ambiguity from me, I suspect...

I meant BillW50 should quit smoking *tobacco* in order to live long
enough to get the full benefit of the SSD, but on rereading my reamrk, I
see that there might be another interpretation :)
 
C

Char Jackson

Another ambiguity from me, I suspect...

I meant BillW50 should quit smoking *tobacco* in order to live long
enough to get the full benefit of the SSD, but on rereading my reamrk, I
see that there might be another interpretation :)
Two interpretations came to me and I enjoyed them both. :)
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Two interpretations came to me and I enjoyed them both. :)
Your singleton smiley is what led me to see the second interpretation -
thanks :)
 
S

Steve Hayes

All the imaging programs do the right thing and they make it fairly
easy.

You do have to avoid telling the program to restore the D: image to C:.
Yes, I bought a new computer with two 500 Gig drives.

I restored the C: image to drive 0, and the D, E, F, and G images to drive 1,
startted it up, and everything worked fine. I just had to update a couple of
drivers, and Microsoft wanted me to do something about Windows because
hardware changes had been detected. But it was a lot easier than reinstalling
everything from scratch, which would have taken me weeks, if not months.

O, perhaps I should say what I partitioned the drives using Partition Magic,
because they were different sizes from the original drives.
 
B

BillW50

In Steve Hayes typed:
O, perhaps I should say what I partitioned the drives using Partition
Magic, because they were different sizes from the original drives.
PartitionMagic v8.05 by PowerQuest? That is eight years old now. Plus
PartitionMagic is only compatible with Windows NT, 95/98, ME, 2000, and
XP. You might be asking for trouble down the line using it on Windows 7
and 500 GB hard drives. You would be far safer partitioning through
Windows 7 itself.
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

In Steve Hayes typed:

PartitionMagic v8.05 by PowerQuest? That is eight years old now. Plus
PartitionMagic is only compatible with Windows NT, 95/98, ME, 2000, and
XP. You might be asking for trouble down the line using it on Windows 7
and 500 GB hard drives. You would be far safer partitioning through
Windows 7 itself.
As long as he is only partitioning the drive he will be fine. The
partition structure and types have not changed, only the NTFS file
structures which are independent of the partition structure and type.
And since he is restoring images, that won't be a problem.

Personally, I prefer Symantec Ghost since it can re-size the partitions
as it puts the image onto the new drive.
 
B

BillW50

As long as he is only partitioning the drive he will be fine. The
partition structure and types have not changed, only the NTFS file
structures which are independent of the partition structure and type.
And since he is restoring images, that won't be a problem.
Being a PartitionMagic user since v3, I would still worry. As
PartitionMagic was never very stable with hardware made in the future.
That is why it was important to always keep PartitionMagic updated.
Although 2004 was the end of updates. So I would be concerned myself.
Personally, I prefer Symantec Ghost since it can re-size the partitions
as it puts the image onto the new drive.
I can't think of any nowadays that can't also do that. Acronis, Paragon,
EaseUS, etc. There was only one that I have ran into that will allow
partitioning of flash drives. And I always forget which one it is. I do
remember it was either PartitionMagic, Paragon, or EaseUS.
 
P

Paul

BillW50 said:
Being a PartitionMagic user since v3, I would still worry. As
PartitionMagic was never very stable with hardware made in the future.
That is why it was important to always keep PartitionMagic updated.
Although 2004 was the end of updates. So I would be concerned myself.


I can't think of any nowadays that can't also do that. Acronis, Paragon,
EaseUS, etc. There was only one that I have ran into that will allow
partitioning of flash drives. And I always forget which one it is. I do
remember it was either PartitionMagic, Paragon, or EaseUS.
You can partition flash drives in Linux... But Windows doesn't like it.
Windows tends to only mount the first partition, when you do that.
Such a function would be more useful to a Linux user. I don't know
the Windows rationale for doing it that way. What the objective
of such a restriction is.

Paul
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

You can partition flash drives in Linux... But Windows doesn't like it.
Windows tends to only mount the first partition, when you do that.
Such a function would be more useful to a Linux user. I don't know
the Windows rationale for doing it that way. What the objective
of such a restriction is.
<CYNICISM>
The programmer in Redmond couldn't figure out how to handle it.
</CYNICISM>
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Yes, I bought a new computer with two 500 Gig drives.

I restored the C: image to drive 0, and the D, E, F, and G images to drive 1,
startted it up, and everything worked fine. I just had to update a couple of
drivers, and Microsoft wanted me to do something about Windows because
hardware changes had been detected. But it was a lot easier than reinstalling
everything from scratch, which would have taken me weeks, if not months.

O, perhaps I should say what I partitioned the drives using Partition Magic,
because they were different sizes from the original drives.
I don't really disagree, but nonetheless, when I made this computer, I
just made a list of everything I wanted to install, installed windows
from scratch, and spent several days installing the important stuff. I
kept using the old computer for a few days until the new one was ready
for e-mail and such, and also used it for reference as I was setting
things up on the new one. That method wasn't great, but it wasn't too
bad either.

Every once in a while, even a year later, I'll want some data file that
I didn't copy back then, so I plug in the old backup and copy it. If I
can find it :)
 
M

mick

Out of interest, how do you restore separate partition images to the same
drive? If you had a completely new HD and had restored the C: partition, is
there an option to restore the D: partition without overwriting the C:
partition? What imaging program do you use?
Using Acronis True Image.
What I do with a new drive is restore the C image, then using EaseUs
Partition Master, partition the drive and then restore the other images
to their respective partitions.
 
C

Char Jackson

Using Acronis True Image.
What I do with a new drive is restore the C image, then using EaseUs
Partition Master, partition the drive and then restore the other images
to their respective partitions.
I think you can skip the "partition the drive" step. I always do.
 
C

Char Jackson

Does Acronis let you decide how big to make the partitions, then?
I've slept a few times since last doing it so I don't remember the
exact terminology, but when restoring a partition image to a
partitioned drive, step one is to blow away the existing partition.
With that in mind, it hardly makes sense to create partitions ahead of
time. As for your question, I remember being asked if I wanted to
expand an image (during restore) to take up all available space or
not.

Take all of that with a grain of salt. I use Acronis True Image and
Acronis Disk Doctor, so my experiences may be different from those of
people who use different tools.
 
B

BillW50

I've slept a few times since last doing it so I don't remember the
exact terminology, but when restoring a partition image to a
partitioned drive, step one is to blow away the existing partition.
With that in mind, it hardly makes sense to create partitions ahead of
time. As for your question, I remember being asked if I wanted to
expand an image (during restore) to take up all available space or
not.

Take all of that with a grain of salt. I use Acronis True Image and
Acronis Disk Doctor, so my experiences may be different from those of
people who use different tools.
I use many different software (Acronis, Paragon, EaseUS, Ghost, etc.)
and all of the above is really common among them. Even software that
specializes in cloning, also allows for shrinking or expanding of
original partitions.
 
S

Steve Hayes

Acronis True Image 2011 home edition does not. You will need Acronis
Disk Director for that OR use a freebie like EaseUs with is very good.
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm
So then it would not have been a good idea to skip the "partition the drive"
step; I parittioned the drive with Partition Magic before copying the data
using Acronis.
 
M

mick

So then it would not have been a good idea to skip the "partition the drive"
step; I parittioned the drive with Partition Magic before copying the data
using Acronis.
That is the way I do it, because I have separate images of each
partition.
If you have only one image of the whole drive - which may include many
partitions - then there is no need to make separate partitions when
re-installing, or installing on a new drive the image will do that
providing it is a drive of similar or larger size. Acronis will not
allow you to size the partitions, you would have to do that manually
after the image has been restored.
 

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