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philo
The laptop I use for work has a touch screen and Win7 so, yes Win7 does
support touch screens. Win8 however seems to have been designed with
considerably more "touch screen" features.
The laptop I use for work has a touch screen and Win7 so, yes Win7 does
support touch screens. Win8 however seems to have been designed with
considerably more "touch screen" features.
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Mellowed
From MSFT'S perspective that is probably true and they cringe to seeFrom MSFT's perspective Office 2000 was not supported on Windows 7
(only 2003 and later).
that the old software still works great with no need for the user to
purchase the latest versions. Office 2000 works perfect on Windows 7.
Fortunately there are alternatives (free) that work just as well and on
Windows 8.
M
Mellowed
Well I agree with you on Windows 8, and I do use Thunderbird (upon yourAnd the alternative to Outlook is? And don't say "Thunderbird" or
"Mozilla Mail" because they aren't decent alternatives if you use HTML.
Personally, I see no reason to use Windows 8 being as I'm not into
tablets or smartphones.
recommendation at least 5 years ago. Haven't used Outlook since then).
But I'm curious as to why you brought up Outlook. What is the
recommended alternative to Outlook today?
D
Dave \Crash\ Dummy
"Update" and "upgrade" are not synonyms. New is not necessarilyKaren said:I now have Windows 7 on my desktop and laptop. Is it a good idea
to upgrade to windows 8. Just looking for some opinions on this.
Thanks.
improved. I don't consider a Windows 8 update to be an upgrade of
my Windows 7 desktop system.
--
Crash
"The best argument against democracy is
a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
~ Winston Churchill ~
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Paul
This is a fine theory, only with one fatal flaw.Bob said:I like the conspiracy theory for Windows 8. Microsoft can't force people
to give up XP and hence prise more money out of them, so it has made
Windows 8 completely unusable on a desktop or laptop. That way it is
obvious that there is nothing else for the XP users to wait around for,
so they will upgrade to Windows 7. Microsoft doesn't care *what* they
buy, so long as they buy.
The theory doesn't look quite so good when you realise that there is now
nothing for Windows 7 users to look forward to or upgrade to. Unless
Microsoft really want to go downhill fast, my guess is that Windows 9
is not far away, and it will be a full desktop/enterprise version. This
way they at least stand a chance of selling Windows 8 to a few toy
computers users and mobile phone users in the meantime.
The developers have "inhaled the KoolAid".
The interface you see today, is how Windows 9 will look as well.
And the lock-in (Windows control over what applications can run,
which OSes will be bootable on the computer, the Applications Store)
is all part of the business plan. There's no going backwards on that.
It's supposed to be a money-making plan.
You see, Sinovsky's ego is tied up in this, Ribbons and Metro.
And no executive can ever be seen to be back-pedaling. When
Steve Jobs should have back-pedaled, he came up with "you're
holding it wrong". The same will happen with Windows. To their
dying day, they'll never admit that any UI changes were
a mistake. It's just... not how the world works.
If Sinovsky was fired, and some other dude takes over, then,
they could change it. But maybe he has his own, tiny, reality
distortion field.
http://betanews.com/2011/09/14/steven-sinofsky-is-the-new-steve-jobs/
The only way this situation could have a happy ending, is
Balmer is replaced by someone parachuted in to take his
place. Now, that kind of thing is quite popular. No company
likes to promote from within. It's much more fun to take
talent from outside, and throw them into the mix. And when
that happens, there could be an executive team shakeup.
It's a long shot. And considering the timing, design doc
close for Windows 9 will have happened, before any executive
shakeup takes place.
Considering how many computers have been made obsolete by
Windows 8 (NX dependency), I don't think they really
give a rats ass about the desktop. It's all "mobile"
from now on.
Paul
K
Ken Blake
Office 2000 works perfect on Windows 7.
Sorry,, but that is not correct. It may work perfectly for you, but
that depends on which Office applications you use and which features
of them you use. Some things do *not* work, or if they work, they do
not work properly.
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Mellowed
Since retiring I only use Excel and Word. Ten years ago I also usedSorry,, but that is not correct. It may work perfectly for you, but
that depends on which Office applications you use and which features
of them you use. Some things do *not* work, or if they work, they do
not work properly.
Power Point and Access. What applications have a problem?
B
Bob Henson
If you are correct, and you may well be so, Linux is going to clean up.This is a fine theory, only with one fatal flaw.
The developers have "inhaled the KoolAid".
The interface you see today, is how Windows 9 will look as well.
And the lock-in (Windows control over what applications can run,
which OSes will be bootable on the computer, the Applications Store)
is all part of the business plan. There's no going backwards on that.
It's supposed to be a money-making plan.
You see, Sinovsky's ego is tied up in this, Ribbons and Metro.
And no executive can ever be seen to be back-pedaling. When
Steve Jobs should have back-pedaled, he came up with "you're
holding it wrong". The same will happen with Windows. To their
dying day, they'll never admit that any UI changes were
a mistake. It's just... not how the world works.
If Sinovsky was fired, and some other dude takes over, then,
they could change it. But maybe he has his own, tiny, reality
distortion field.
http://betanews.com/2011/09/14/steven-sinofsky-is-the-new-steve-jobs/
The only way this situation could have a happy ending, is
Balmer is replaced by someone parachuted in to take his
place. Now, that kind of thing is quite popular. No company
likes to promote from within. It's much more fun to take
talent from outside, and throw them into the mix. And when
that happens, there could be an executive team shakeup.
It's a long shot. And considering the timing, design doc
close for Windows 9 will have happened, before any executive
shakeup takes place.
Considering how many computers have been made obsolete by
Windows 8 (NX dependency), I don't think they really
give a rats ass about the desktop. It's all "mobile"
from now on.
Businesses may even persuade their bean counters to waste huge amounts
of money on MACs.
If it hasn't got a real keyboard, it won't get used in business, so
Microsoft will finish up making software just for toys.
--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK www.galen.org.uk
Insanity is hereditary - you get it off your kids!
K
Ken Blake
Since retiring I only use Excel and Word. Ten years ago I also used
Power Point and Access. What applications have a problem?
I don't know about all the problems either, but I know that Outlook
2000 has problems with Windows 7.
But don't ask me for details; I don't remember them.
M
Mellowed
Ahhh, yes. I had problems with Outlook many years ago and switched toI don't know about all the problems either, but I know that Outlook
2000 has problems with Windows 7.
But don't ask me for details; I don't remember them.
Thunderbird and Lightning. Never thought any more of it.
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Paul
My guess is, Apple will have the momentum.Bob said:If you are correct, and you may well be so, Linux is going to clean up.
Businesses may even persuade their bean counters to waste huge amounts
of money on MACs.
If it hasn't got a real keyboard, it won't get used in business, so
Microsoft will finish up making software just for toys.
The problem with Linux, is one of perception. That the OS
was invented, for geeks to play with. Nobody appears to be
listening to end users in any substantial way.
Paul
B
Bob Henson
They'll have to improve it too - there are still too many things itMy guess is, Apple will have the momentum.
The problem with Linux, is one of perception. That the OS
was invented, for geeks to play with. Nobody appears to be
listening to end users in any substantial way.
won't do that Windows will. Actually, it's not so much the operating
system, it's the available software that is lacking, but a big increase
in users would probably trigger more development. It's a bit "chicken
and egg" though - which would be needed first?
--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK www.galen.org.uk
Forced to choose between two evils - pick the one you haven't tried before!
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Gene E. Bloch
A friend has a Windows 7 all-in-one computer with a touch screen, whichCorrect me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Windows 7 support touch screens?
I don't have such a screen, and I remember 2.5 years ago when I
bought my computer being annoyed because I read that Win 7 supported
them. But maybe I'm remembering wrong.
I have seen her use, both for drawing and for Free Cell.
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Gene E. Bloch
Really LOL - thanks!But...Tis a far, far better thing I do, than I have ever done before.
Chris
S
Steve Hayes
But it seems that Windows is going the same way.They'll have to improve it too - there are still too many things it
won't do that Windows will. Actually, it's not so much the operating
system, it's the available software that is lacking, but a big increase
in users would probably trigger more development. It's a bit "chicken
and egg" though - which would be needed first?
Linux doesn't take off because there is a lot of useful software that doesn't
run under it.
If if won't run under new versions of Windows either, where does that leave
Windows? Is there any incentive to downgrade to Windows 8?
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
I thought even XP has some support for them.Stan Brown said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Windows 7 support touch screens?
I don't have such a screen, and I remember 2.5 years ago when I
bought my computer being annoyed because I read that Win 7 supported
them. But maybe I'm remembering wrong.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"Oh, stick it up your nose." "Yes, which is precisely the sort of thing we need
to know, I mean, do people want fire that can be fitted nasally?" (s1, fit
six.)
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pjp
When I took a programming course in 85 touch screens already existed.I thought even XP has some support for them.
What research found was that it was tiring for people to be moving their
whole arm around all the time. Seems to me that's not going to be any
better now.
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Ken Blake
When I took a programming course in 85 touch screens already existed.
What research found was that it was tiring for people to be moving their
whole arm around all the time. Seems to me that's not going to be any
better now.
I think what you say is definitely true for desktops, and the larger
the screen, the worse it is. But it's not true for tablets, and
tablets are what the Metro interface is aimed at.
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XS11E
It sure does, I log in and out at work with a touch screen CRT monitorI thought even XP has some support for them.
on a PC running XP that's reserved for that task, sort of the PC
version of an old fashoned time clock, it improves on the old time
clock in that the system allows people to log in and out, select and/or
change assignments, check on their hours and several other tasks.
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
It sure does, I log in and out at work with a touch screen CRT monitorI thought even XP has some support for them.
on a PC running XP that's reserved for that task, sort of the PC
version of an old fashoned time clock, it improves on the old time
clock in that the system allows people to log in and out, select and/or
change assignments, check on their hours and several other tasks.[/QUOTE]
In XP, that support is through a 3rd party driver provided by the touch
screen manufacturer, not integrated into the OS like it is in Win 8.
But as you have seen, that probably doesn't matter to the user much.
--
Zaphod
"So [Trillian], two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else [Zaphod]'s got two of?"
- Arthur Dent
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