S
Seth
The Linksys WRT160NL by Cisco mentioned by Carroll is one, the DLInk DI-624SKen Blake said:
"was" another one. A few other companies make them as well.
"was" another one. A few other companies make them as well.
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Seth
If you have multiple computers it's easier to have centrally shared storageSunny said:AFAIK the "backup program" in Win7 is the same for Home and Pro.
Why introduce a third bit of hardware into a backup regime?
Just plug the USB external drive into the PC you want to backup and let it
rip.
instead of moving it around and introduction unnecessary wear and tear into
the equation.
S
Seth
(I am going to assume you meant the F5D8235-4)Dave said:The router is a Belkin F58235-4 V2 and the port is USB. It is dedicated to
a storage device like a backup drive. As I said before, I have not put a
lot of time into trying to sort it out, mostly due to the fact I thought
it would be plug-and-play if I installed Professional.
Checked the manual and I see no reason why Win7 Pro would make a difference
over the other flavors. You merely attach a USB storage device to the
router, install the "Storage Manager" application to at least 1 computer (so
you can configure it and assign a device name (what Windows would refer to
as a "share")) and then "map" drives to it from each PC you want to access
the device via the path \\router_IP\DeviceName (replacing "router_IP with
the router's address, 192.168.2.1 be default) and "DeviceName" with the
share as described above.
See page 22 of the PDF (page 20 of the manual)
http://cache-www.belkin.com/support/dl/man_f5d8235-4_pm00736_0708.pdf
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Dave
Seth,Seth said:(I am going to assume you meant the F5D8235-4)
Checked the manual and I see no reason why Win7 Pro would make a
difference over the other flavors. You merely attach a USB storage device
to the router, install the "Storage Manager" application to at least 1
computer (so you can configure it and assign a device name (what Windows
would refer to as a "share")) and then "map" drives to it from each PC you
want to access the device via the path \\router_IP\DeviceName (replacing
"router_IP with the router's address, 192.168.2.1 be default) and
"DeviceName" with the share as described above.
See page 22 of the PDF (page 20 of the manual)
http://cache-www.belkin.com/support/dl/man_f5d8235-4_pm00736_0708.pdf
Thanks for the tips, I will just go ahead and install the Storage Manager
software, I was erroneously thinking, (and told by another person) that
upgrading to Pro would enable me to do this natively. It's probably a
simpler solution to go with the Storage Manager software than to do a
Windows upgrade anyway. :-D
I will post results when I get it going as I saw others commenting they were
interested in this feature on other (their) routers.
Thanks again,
Dave
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Seth
Yeah, the upgrade to Pro would have done nothing to further this activity.Dave said:Seth,
Thanks for the tips, I will just go ahead and install the Storage Manager
software, I was erroneously thinking, (and told by another person) that
upgrading to Pro would enable me to do this natively. It's probably a
simpler solution to go with the Storage Manager software than to do a
Windows upgrade anyway. :-D
I will post results when I get it going as I saw others commenting they
were interested in this feature on other (their) routers.
It's simply a built in interface to turn a USB storage device into a poor
mans NAS.
R
Roy Smith
Yes Dave Win 7 Pro is capable of creating it's backup files on aI can backup fine from a USB port to a backup drive. My router has a
port that I can plug a backup drive into and do incremental, full or
selective backups. I can't seem to get it enabled to work right. Someone
told me Professional would do this without any problems.
Do you know if this is true?
networked drive and Win 7 Home cannot. One restriction is that Win 7
Pro will only make a full system image file and not an incremental
system image each time the backup program does it's thing. Though it
will make incremental backups of your user files (go figure).
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:25:20 PM
R
Roy Smith
So true! I use a Western Digital My Book World 1TB NAS for backing upIf you have multiple computers it's easier to have centrally shared
storage instead of moving it around and introduction unnecessary wear
and tear into the equation.
all 3 of my PC's using True Image Home.
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:30:42 PM
R
Roy Smith
If I understand Dave correctly, the USB port on his router makes anyWhat kind of port is this? Is this just a plain USB drive?
Two points:
1. You can't just plug a plain USB drive into a router. You can plug
in a drive with an ethernet connection that works as a network device.
2. Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional should work exactly the
same with this. I'm afraid that whoever told you differently is just
incorrect.
drive that's plugged into it available on the network for any PC on the
network to use. In essence it makes it appear to be a NAS device.
However there is a difference in the backup programs on Home and Pro
(and above) in that the Home Premium version is not capable of creating
backup files on a networked device. IF you open Help And Support and
search for "backup" then click on the line that says "Where should I
save my backup?" you'll see this in the network locations section:
You can only save your backups on a network location on Windows 7
Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, and Windows 7 Enterprise
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:40:12 PM
R
Roy Smith
Here's one:Thanks. I don't know of any like that, but if you do, I'd appreciate
your listing some of the make and model names.
http://reviews.cnet.com/networking-...50n-wireless-router/4505-3243_7-32018493.html
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:47:09 PM
R
Roy Smith
Oh, forgot to mention the router that I use:Thanks. I don't know of any like that, but if you do, I'd appreciate
your listing some of the make and model names.
http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/cisco-linksys-e3000/4505-3319_7-34041744.html?tag=rnav
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:56:46 PM
K
Ken Blake
On 8/16/2010 4:39 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
If I understand Dave correctly, the USB port on his router makes any
drive that's plugged into it available on the network for any PC on the
network to use. In essence it makes it appear to be a NAS device.
However there is a difference in the backup programs on Home and Pro
(and above) in that the Home Premium version is not capable of creating
backup files on a networked device. IF you open Help And Support and
search for "backup" then click on the line that says "Where should I
save my backup?" you'll see this in the network locations section:
You can only save your backups on a network location on Windows 7
Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, and Windows 7 Enterprise
Yes, what you say is true with regard to the Windows 7 backup program,
but not true with regard to backup programs in general.
But you are right, I could have made that much clearer in my reply.
D
Dave
Roy,Roy Smith said:Yes Dave Win 7 Pro is capable of creating it's backup files on a
networked drive and Win 7 Home cannot. One restriction is that Win 7
Pro will only make a full system image file and not an incremental
system image each time the backup program does it's thing. Though it
will make incremental backups of your user files (go figure).
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:25:20 PM
I appreciate your tip. If I understand you correctly, each time I do a
backup it will be a full backup unless I'm backing up just the files that
are under my username? If this is correct, when I do a full backup will I
have the choice to overwrite the previous backup or have both on the backup
drive?
Thanks,
Dave
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Roy Smith
When using a networked storage for saving your backups, it will do anRoy,
I appreciate your tip. If I understand you correctly, each time I do a
backup it will be a full backup unless I'm backing up just the files
that are under my username? If this is correct, when I do a full backup
will I have the choice to overwrite the previous backup or have both on
the backup drive?
incremental backup of your user files, but will only keep the most
recent full system image file. It's because of this limitation that I
don't use the built in backup software and use Acronis instead.
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:31:56 AM
R
Roy Smith
Well since the OP was talking about the Win 7 backup program, I justYes, what you say is true with regard to the Windows 7 backup program,
but not true with regard to backup programs in general.
But you are right, I could have made that much clearer in my reply.
assumed you were too. Because of that limitation in the Win 7 backup
program I don't use it, instead I used Acronis True Image Home.
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:36:08 AM
K
Ken Blake
Well since the OP was talking about the Win 7 backup program,
Yes, buried in an early message in the thread. I missed that
completely.
I just
assumed you were too. Because of that limitation in the Win 7 backup
program I don't use it, instead I used Acronis True Image Home.
I think Acronis True Image is the best backup program available,
although personally most of my backing up is done with Windows Hone
Server.
R
Roy Smith
Wow... is that for really sharp files? ;-)Yes, buried in an early message in the thread. I missed that
completely.
I think Acronis True Image is the best backup program available,
although personally most of my backing up is done with Windows Hone
Server.
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:48:39 PM
S
Sunny
This thread prompted me to read everything that I could, about the Win7When using a networked storage for saving your backups, it will do an
incremental backup of your user files, but will only keep the most
recent full system image file. It's because of this limitation that I
don't use the built in backup software and use Acronis instead.
backup program (At Microsoft)
The inability to incremental backup of the op system, has convinced me to
install Acronis on the Netbooks and use that instead of the Microsoft
backup. (Microsoft is vague on details about "overwriting" the original
system image file)
Did Microsoft write the software, or is it a third party version of
something ?
K
Ken Blake
On 8/18/2010 10:06 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
Wow... is that for really sharp files? ;-)
LOL! I reread this about half a dozen times before I saw my typo and
got your joke.
Yes, "hone" should be "home." My spell checker didn't catch it.
G
Geordie
As "hone" is a genuine word, your spell checker wouldn't need to catchLOL! I reread this about half a dozen times before I saw my typo and
got your joke.
Yes, "hone" should be "home." My spell checker didn't catch it.
it.
K
Ken Blake
As "hone" is a genuine word, your spell checker wouldn't need to catch
it.
Of course; that was my point. Sorry I didn't make it clearer.
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