Two Hours for SP1?

J

Justin

I downloaded the Microsoft ISO image since I have more than one machine
to run it on; so those two hours don't include time I spend downloading
the massive SP.
Two god damn hours to install SP1? Good God, Microsoft is honestly
trying to piss off their customers.
http://img839.imageshack.us/i/w7sp1nowinstalled.jpg/

Luckily I'm "genuine."
 
K

Ken Blake

I downloaded the Microsoft ISO image since I have more than one machine
to run it on; so those two hours don't include time I spend downloading
the massive SP.
Two god damn hours to install SP1? Good God, Microsoft is honestly
trying to piss off their customers.

I installed SP1 on three computers here. It took 30m minutes, 40
minutes, and one hour.

The one hour installation was on my very much underpowered netbook
with only 1GB of RAM.

If it took you two hours, it sounds like something is very much wrong
with your machine.
 
R

R. C. White

Hi, Ken.

Since I hadn't been offered the SP1 by Windows Update - in spite of repeated
Checks for new Updates yesterday - I considered downloading the ISO. But
then I followed the clicks on the website and found out why WU hadn't
offered it: Because SP1 RC was installed and I hadn't yet UNinstalled it.
So I did that and then - in time - SP1 1 (RTM) was offered, accepted,
downloaded and installed. ;<)

It took much longer than expected, but I have a couple of theories as to
why. I do not think there is anything wrong with either of my computers. I
was installing it on both my Acer Netbook (2 GB RAM) and my homebuilt
desktop (4 GB RAM) simultaneously over my single Internet connection.

The Netbook did not have SP1 RC installed; it was pure Win7 x64 Ultimate
RTM, fully updated pre-SP1. It took at least an hour, most of that time was
downloading, rather than installing. As you know, I'm new to this home
network stuff and it may be that I overloaded my pipeline by downloading
with both machines at once. (The desktop is wired via 1 Gb Ethernet to the
D-Link DR-615 router and cable modem; the netbook has a wireless
connection - 805.11n, I think. My ISP says my service is "Speeds Up To
12.0mbps Down".)

The desktop took about 3 hours total! That included first UNinstalling SP1
RC - including RE-installing all the hotfixes that had been included in the
SP - to get back to Win7 x64 Ultimate RTM. Then - after a restart or two -
I was offered SP1 and accepted, and the download started. This download
took nearly an hour! My guess is that it was because so many millions of
users like me were trying to download it at the same time. After it finally
finished the download, the actual installation took about a half-hour. (And
then I had to Hide all the 34 Language Packs, none of which I need. :>(
When will MS made this a painless step?!)

Since I've been running the beta and the RC for a year or so now, I don't
see many changes in the SP. But users going straight from RTM to the SP
probably will see some. Of course, we've been told all along that it is
primarily a roll-up of prior fixes and does not contain any significant
improvements to the core package.

RC
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(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1


"Ken Blake" wrote in message

I downloaded the Microsoft ISO image since I have more than one machine
to run it on; so those two hours don't include time I spend downloading
the massive SP.
Two god damn hours to install SP1? Good God, Microsoft is honestly
trying to piss off their customers.

I installed SP1 on three computers here. It took 30m minutes, 40
minutes, and one hour.

The one hour installation was on my very much underpowered netbook
with only 1GB of RAM.

If it took you two hours, it sounds like something is very much wrong
with your machine.
 
J

Justin

Ken Blake said:
I installed SP1 on three computers here. It took 30m minutes, 40
minutes, and one hour.

The one hour installation was on my very much underpowered netbook
with only 1GB of RAM.

If it took you two hours, it sounds like something is very much wrong
with your machine.
Yeah, its running Windows 7.
 
P

Paul

Justin said:
I downloaded the Microsoft ISO image since I have more than one machine
to run it on; so those two hours don't include time I spend downloading
the massive SP.
Two god damn hours to install SP1? Good God, Microsoft is honestly
trying to piss off their customers.
http://img839.imageshack.us/i/w7sp1nowinstalled.jpg/

Luckily I'm "genuine."
Any chance you left a real-time virus scanner running during the update ?

Paul
 
K

Ken Blake

Hi, Ken.

Since I hadn't been offered the SP1 by Windows Update - in spite of repeated
Checks for new Updates yesterday - I considered downloading the ISO. But
then I followed the clicks on the website and found out why WU hadn't
offered it: Because SP1 RC was installed and I hadn't yet UNinstalled it.
So I did that and then - in time - SP1 1 (RTM) was offered, accepted,
downloaded and installed. ;<)

It took much longer than expected, but I have a couple of theories as to
why. I do not think there is anything wrong with either of my computers. I
was installing it on both my Acer Netbook (2 GB RAM) and my homebuilt
desktop (4 GB RAM) simultaneously over my single Internet connection.

The Netbook did not have SP1 RC installed; it was pure Win7 x64 Ultimate
RTM, fully updated pre-SP1. It took at least an hour, most of that time was
downloading, rather than installing. As you know, I'm new to this home
network stuff and it may be that I overloaded my pipeline by downloading
with both machines at once.

That sure sound to me like it could be the reason.

(The desktop is wired via 1 Gb Ethernet to the
D-Link DR-615 router and cable modem; the netbook has a wireless
connection - 805.11n, I think. My ISP says my service is "Speeds Up To
12.0mbps Down".)

The desktop took about 3 hours total!

Incredible! Six times as long as it took me!

That included first UNinstalling SP1
RC - including RE-installing all the hotfixes that had been included in the
SP - to get back to Win7 x64 Ultimate RTM.

OK. That wasn't an issue for me.

Then - after a restart or two -
I was offered SP1 and accepted, and the download started. This download
took nearly an hour!

I wasn't counting the download. I had downloaded it and burned it a
DVD. When I say it took 30 minutes on my machine, it was the
installation from the DVD I meant.

My guess is that it was because so many millions of
users like me were trying to download it at the same time.

That sounds right to me.

After it finally
finished the download, the actual installation took about a half-hour.

So, about the same as me. My wife's machine (much slower than mine)
took 40 minutes, and my very slow netbook took an hour.

(And
then I had to Hide all the 34 Language Packs, none of which I need. :>(
When will MS made this a painless step?!)

Since I've been running the beta and the RC for a year or so now, I don't
see many changes in the SP. But users going straight from RTM to the SP
probably will see some. Of course, we've been told all along that it is
primarily a roll-up of prior fixes and does not contain any significant
improvements to the core package.

I didn't have the beta RC installed, and I haven't noticed anything
different, at least not yet.

Good to correspond with you, as always.
 
K

Ken Blake

Yeah, its running Windows 7.

So, it took two hours on your machine, and one fourth of that time on
mine, we were both running Windows 7, and you blame the difference on
your running Windows 7? How astute of you!
 
S

Steve de Mena

I downloaded the Microsoft ISO image since I have more than one machine
to run it on; so those two hours don't include time I spend downloading
the massive SP.
Two god damn hours to install SP1? Good God, Microsoft is honestly
trying to piss off their customers.
http://img839.imageshack.us/i/w7sp1nowinstalled.jpg/

Luckily I'm "genuine."
It's your own fault for downloading an ISO image that contains x86 and
x64 images for both Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 instead of
letting Windows Update just download the actual files (maybe 100MB) to
each computer.

Steve
 
T

Tester

Steve said:
It's your own fault for downloading an ISO image that contains x86 and
x64 images for both Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 instead of
letting Windows Update just download the actual files (maybe 100MB) to
each computer.

You missed the point boy! It is not downloading that is taking lot of
time! It is the act of installation that took nearly 2 hours. One
possible reason could be that the installation process was uninstalling
all the updates that were installed over the months since Windows 7 was
officially released or that the OP installed a beta version which he
failed to uninstall it before installing the downloaded kosher one!.
you have to accept that the OP is a newbie and you can prove this by him
cross posting to all the non-relevant newsgroups! Or he could be a troll!

Downloading times these days should be a minor thing especially in
countries which are considered to be "developed". I was in South Korea
few months ago and I was amazed at the speed of internet at my hotel!
They seem to be more advanced than we in Europe!.
 
E

Ezekiel

Frank ess said:
I managed to get the Update version downloaded and installed in less than
half an hour. Then came the re-boot: it wouldn't.

Last time Windows updated anything, same story, so I knew where to go:
disconnect everything except the monitor, mouse, and keyboard. Bingo.
Jumps right up as if it knew what to do.

Kind of a hassle to unplug and re-plug three external hard drives (one
USB-3.0) and two scanners, but practice is making it quicker.
Don't your scanners and external hard drives have a power switch?
 
J

Justin

Frank ess said:
I managed to get the Update version downloaded and installed in less than
half an hour. Then came the re-boot: it wouldn't.

Last time Windows updated anything, same story, so I knew where to go:
disconnect everything except the monitor, mouse, and keyboard. Bingo. Jumps
right up as if it knew what to do.

Kind of a hassle to unplug and re-plug three external hard drives (one
USB-3.0) and two scanners, but practice is making it quicker.
That's why I use a Mac.
 
J

Justin

Tester said:
You missed the point boy! It is not downloading that is taking lot of
time! It is the act of installation that took nearly 2 hours. One
possible reason could be that the installation process was uninstalling
all the updates that were installed over the months since Windows 7 was
officially released or that the OP installed a beta version which he
failed to uninstall it before installing the downloaded kosher one!.
you have to accept that the OP is a newbie and you can prove this by him
cross posting to all the non-relevant newsgroups! Or he could be a troll!

Downloading times these days should be a minor thing especially in
countries which are considered to be "developed". I was in South Korea
few months ago and I was amazed at the speed of internet at my hotel!
They seem to be more advanced than we in Europe!.
Seems like Steve here has a problem with reading comprehension. I have
several machines that don't have access to the internet for security
reasons. Hence I needed the DVD.
Its like talking to a wall with these people. I mean really.
 
J

Justin

Ken Blake said:
That sure sound to me like it could be the reason.




Incredible! Six times as long as it took me!




OK. That wasn't an issue for me.




I wasn't counting the download. I had downloaded it and burned it a
DVD. When I say it took 30 minutes on my machine, it was the
installation from the DVD I meant.




That sounds right to me.




So, about the same as me. My wife's machine (much slower than mine)
took 40 minutes, and my very slow netbook took an hour.




I didn't have the beta RC installed, and I haven't noticed anything
different, at least not yet.

Good to correspond with you, as always.

When will the ISOs of the Windows 7 installation DVDs with SP1 included
be out on the torrent sites?
 
J

Justin

Paul said:
Any chance you left a real-time virus scanner running during the update ?

Paul
Nope.
I disabled AVG.

Either way, I'm installing Ubuntu on that machine. In all honestly I
wanted to see if those loaders worked. They do. I was able to
uninstall AVG and use MSE; it passed the genuine advantage test with
flying colors.
 
F

flatfish+++

I managed to get the Update version downloaded and installed in less than
half an hour. Then came the re-boot: it wouldn't.

Last time Windows updated anything, same story, so I knew where to go:
disconnect everything except the monitor, mouse, and keyboard. Bingo. Jumps
right up as if it knew what to do.

Kind of a hassle to unplug and re-plug three external hard drives (one
USB-3.0) and two scanners, but practice is making it quicker.
I'm waiting.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
F

flatfish+++

No. It is just not completely right. You can continue working. If you ignore
the nag-Screens about needing the reboot


No. You need the reboot only for a kernel change in linux.
No point in doing that on linux for non-kernel updates
Unless you are updating X in which case all your GUI apps, which is what
normal people run, will die when you restart X.

Idiot.

FUP restored.....
 
C

choro

You missed the point boy! It is not downloading that is taking lot of
time! It is the act of installation that took nearly 2 hours. One
possible reason could be that the installation process was uninstalling
all the updates that were installed over the months since Windows 7 was
officially released or that the OP installed a beta version which he
failed to uninstall it before installing the downloaded kosher one!. you
have to accept that the OP is a newbie and you can prove this by him
cross posting to all the non-relevant newsgroups! Or he could be a troll!

Downloading times these days should be a minor thing especially in
countries which are considered to be "developed". I was in South Korea
few months ago and I was amazed at the speed of internet at my hotel!
They seem to be more advanced than we in Europe!.
They sure are! Europe seems to have comparatively turned into a backwater.[/QUOTE]
 
B

Bob Henson

choro said:
They sure are! Europe seems to have comparatively turned into a backwater.
And the UK is well behind most of Europe too! Unless you live in a big city
you have *no* chance of getting a high speed connection.
 
R

Redjak

"flatfish+++" wrote in message

I managed to get the Update version downloaded and installed in less than
half an hour. Then came the re-boot: it wouldn't.

Last time Windows updated anything, same story, so I knew where to go:
disconnect everything except the monitor, mouse, and keyboard. Bingo.
Jumps
right up as if it knew what to do.

Kind of a hassle to unplug and re-plug three external hard drives (one
USB-3.0) and two scanners, but practice is making it quicker.
I'm waiting.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
In reality, there are a lot less problems with Windows upgrades than OSX
upgrades. There are a significantly greater number of Windows users than
OSX users, so the problems, while greater in number, are much less
percentagewise.

Wait until Lion comes out. It will break far more than it fixes, and then
there will be a few months of patches issued to fix patches.
 

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