System backup question

C

Char Jackson

To make a real disk from an image, it must be restored to a drive.
The program reverses the compression and generates the equivalent of
the given drive as a drive that is readable by Explorer and is also
bootable if the original drive was.

I'm using "drive" to mean "drive or partition", as appropriate.

[1] "Mount" means to created the *effect* of a hard drive by software
that presents information from the image in a way that looks like you
are viewing a real drive. It's pretty nifty...
He should not have cloned the drive. It sounds like windows is
possibly
somehow accessing that clone. Disconnect the drive and see if anything
changes.
I use macrium free version, on a Dell he should image what macrium
suggests, namely Dell utility, Dell Recovery (that's also the boot
partition) and drive c. This only makes one compressed file. He must
also
be sure to create a macrium recovery cd (or flash drive).
Repeat same procedure on subsequent backups but you only need to make
the
recovery media once.
I've never had a backup mess up windows while running, but I would
recommend closing all applications. Macrium has an option to turn off
the machine after a backup. The free version doesn't do file backup or
incrementals.
I've just backed up, using free Macrium, my laptop wired to router which
is wired to Seagate GoFlex. Although I selected the c: (and D:) drives not
all the folders were copied to the Seagate; some sub folders are missing
from MyDocs, MyPics. Any ideas?
Macrium Reflect free only knows about disks and partitions, so my first
thought is that what you're describing isn't possible. Perhaps the missing
folders are only hidden or were created after the backup was produced?
 
P

Paul

Char said:
<snipped>

To make a real disk from an image, it must be restored to a drive.
The program reverses the compression and generates the equivalent of
the given drive as a drive that is readable by Explorer and is also
bootable if the original drive was.

I'm using "drive" to mean "drive or partition", as appropriate.

[1] "Mount" means to created the *effect* of a hard drive by software
that presents information from the image in a way that looks like you
are viewing a real drive. It's pretty nifty...

He should not have cloned the drive. It sounds like windows is
possibly
somehow accessing that clone. Disconnect the drive and see if anything
changes.
I use macrium free version, on a Dell he should image what macrium
suggests, namely Dell utility, Dell Recovery (that's also the boot
partition) and drive c. This only makes one compressed file. He must
also
be sure to create a macrium recovery cd (or flash drive).
Repeat same procedure on subsequent backups but you only need to make
the
recovery media once.
I've never had a backup mess up windows while running, but I would
recommend closing all applications. Macrium has an option to turn off
the machine after a backup. The free version doesn't do file backup or
incrementals.
I've just backed up, using free Macrium, my laptop wired to router which
is wired to Seagate GoFlex. Although I selected the c: (and D:) drives not
all the folders were copied to the Seagate; some sub folders are missing
from MyDocs, MyPics. Any ideas?
Macrium Reflect free only knows about disks and partitions, so my first
thought is that what you're describing isn't possible. Perhaps the missing
folders are only hidden or were created after the backup was produced?
What would happen, if the things in question were on another disk entirely,
and "mounted" somehow on the volumes Macrium is supposed to back up ?
(I don't know the right terminology here - junction points perhaps ?)

As far as I know, Macrium uses VSS, which tracks the sectors that are
busy on the disk. I doubt such an approach will walk down a file tree,
and harvest any and all soft-linked files for backup from other disks.

If your environment sprawls over many disks in some way, it's probably
a good idea to back all of them up. There's a good chance a VHD file
can't handle more than one disk at a time, so there would be at least
one VHD file for each disk.

And if its an NTFS volume, you could use nfi.exe to list the contents of C:,
and if the MyDocs and MyPics were missing there, then there's no reason
for Macrium to find them. There should be a copy of nfi.exe in the
ZIP here. I think this is where I got it from.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253066

http://download.microsoft.com/download/win2000srv/utility/3.0/nt45/en-us/oem3sr2.zip

HTH,
Paul
 
C

Char Jackson

Char said:
<snipped>

To make a real disk from an image, it must be restored to a drive.
The program reverses the compression and generates the equivalent of
the given drive as a drive that is readable by Explorer and is also
bootable if the original drive was.

I'm using "drive" to mean "drive or partition", as appropriate.

[1] "Mount" means to created the *effect* of a hard drive by software
that presents information from the image in a way that looks like you
are viewing a real drive. It's pretty nifty...

He should not have cloned the drive. It sounds like windows is
possibly
somehow accessing that clone. Disconnect the drive and see if anything
changes.
I use macrium free version, on a Dell he should image what macrium
suggests, namely Dell utility, Dell Recovery (that's also the boot
partition) and drive c. This only makes one compressed file. He must
also
be sure to create a macrium recovery cd (or flash drive).
Repeat same procedure on subsequent backups but you only need to make
the
recovery media once.
I've never had a backup mess up windows while running, but I would
recommend closing all applications. Macrium has an option to turn off
the machine after a backup. The free version doesn't do file backup or
incrementals.

I've just backed up, using free Macrium, my laptop wired to router which
is wired to Seagate GoFlex. Although I selected the c: (and D:) drives not
all the folders were copied to the Seagate; some sub folders are missing
from MyDocs, MyPics. Any ideas?
Macrium Reflect free only knows about disks and partitions, so my first
thought is that what you're describing isn't possible. Perhaps the missing
folders are only hidden or were created after the backup was produced?
What would happen, if the things in question were on another disk entirely,
and "mounted" somehow on the volumes Macrium is supposed to back up ?
(I don't know the right terminology here - junction points perhaps ?)

As far as I know, Macrium uses VSS, which tracks the sectors that are
busy on the disk. I doubt such an approach will walk down a file tree,
and harvest any and all soft-linked files for backup from other disks.
Correct, Macrium uses VSS and I agree that that backup method doesn't
attempt to walk down the file tree. What that means, I think, is that
folders that physically reside on another drive would get skipped. I don't
know if that's what happened here in the OP's case, but it's possible and is
something only he could check.
If your environment sprawls over many disks in some way, it's probably
a good idea to back all of them up. There's a good chance a VHD file
can't handle more than one disk at a time, so there would be at least
one VHD file for each disk.

And if its an NTFS volume, you could use nfi.exe to list the contents of C:,
and if the MyDocs and MyPics were missing there, then there's no reason
for Macrium to find them. There should be a copy of nfi.exe in the
ZIP here. I think this is where I got it from.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253066

http://download.microsoft.com/download/win2000srv/utility/3.0/nt45/en-us/oem3sr2.zip
Good info, thanks.
 
V

Val

I've just backed up, using free Macrium, my laptop wired to router
which is wired to Seagate GoFlex. Although I selected the c: (and D:)
drives not all the folders were copied to the Seagate; some sub
folders are missing from MyDocs, MyPics. Any ideas?
Macrium Reflect free only knows about disks and partitions, so my
first thought is that what you're describing isn't possible. Perhaps
the missing folders are only hidden or were created after the backup
was produced?
[/QUOTE]

You're right. The missing folders are 'hidden' below instead of alongside
intended destination. Either heatstroke in Moroccan desert or trembly digit
on trackpad.
 

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