SP1 installed or not?

J

Jeff Layman

According to "Installed updates" SP1 was installed on Saturday. There
is no mention of SP1 in Computer | Properties | Windows Edition.

I had to do a system restore a couple of days ago, and I am not certain
if it was to a pre-SP1 state or not. Anyone know of any new file night
have been installed with SP1 that I could check for to see if it is
there or not?
 
R

relic

Jeff Layman said:
According to "Installed updates" SP1 was installed on Saturday. There is
no mention of SP1 in Computer | Properties | Windows Edition.

I had to do a system restore a couple of days ago, and I am not certain if
it was to a pre-SP1 state or not. Anyone know of any new file night have
been installed with SP1 that I could check for to see if it is there or
not?
The installation of SP1 would have deleted all restore points that existed.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

According to "Installed updates" SP1 was installed on Saturday. There
is no mention of SP1 in Computer | Properties | Windows Edition.

I had to do a system restore a couple of days ago, and I am not certain
if it was to a pre-SP1 state or not. Anyone know of any new file night
have been installed with SP1 that I could check for to see if it is
there or not?
Were you looking for "SP1" or for "Service Pack 1"? :)

If you don't see the latter, then I'd suggest reinstalling SP1. You
might have to download it explicitly and run the downloaded installer,
if Windows Update doesn't play nice.
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

relic said:
The installation of SP1 would have deleted all restore points that
existed.
I thought the SP1 installer created a pre-SP1 restore point?
 
J

John Aldred

Jeff said:
According to "Installed updates" SP1 was installed on Saturday. There
is no mention of SP1 in Computer | Properties | Windows Edition.

I had to do a system restore a couple of days ago, and I am not certain
if it was to a pre-SP1 state or not. Anyone know of any new file night
have been installed with SP1 that I could check for to see if it is
there or not?
Have you tried typing winver in the search box and hitting return.
 
J

Jeff Layman

Were you looking for "SP1" or for "Service Pack 1"? :)
Neither appear. I just checked "Installed Updates" (in Programs and
Features | "Uninstall an update" - which gives different information
from the Windows Update | Review Update history list!) and it does not
appear in the "Microsoft Windows" list.
If you don't see the latter, then I'd suggest reinstalling SP1. You
might have to download it explicitly and run the downloaded installer,
if Windows Update doesn't play nice.
Windows Update doesn't want to play nice anyway - I'm having a lot or
trouble trying to download SP1. I have a folder in the C: drive called
bcd298a43715d966469ea43716, which has an spinstall.exe, and a folder
291fa3425b35d1935bbf which seems to consist almost entirely of numerous
language subfolders. But the whole thing is barely 13Mb in size -
nothing like the 80Mb+ SP1 original download.

With a bit of luck the image I created after downloading SP1 (but before
installing) will have the complete download and installer file. If so,
I'll copy it to the laptop and run spinstall.exe. I always have the
image to restore if things go pear-shaped...
 
S

Seth

Jeff Layman said:
Just says Version 6.1 (Build 7600)
That indicates to me that you are no longer at SP1. A) WINVER reports SP1
on the message box and B) the build number increments to 7601.

If you are referring to System Restore as in the Microsoft Windows System
Restore, the oldest one in the list would correspond to the system state
backup that happens right when you launch the SP1 installation. Any restore
point newer than that would be post-SP1 as anything prior to the SP1
installation would have been deleted.
 
P

Paul

Jeff said:
Neither appear. I just checked "Installed Updates" (in Programs and
Features | "Uninstall an update" - which gives different information
from the Windows Update | Review Update history list!) and it does not
appear in the "Microsoft Windows" list.

Windows Update doesn't want to play nice anyway - I'm having a lot or
trouble trying to download SP1. I have a folder in the C: drive called
bcd298a43715d966469ea43716, which has an spinstall.exe, and a folder
291fa3425b35d1935bbf which seems to consist almost entirely of numerous
language subfolders. But the whole thing is barely 13Mb in size -
nothing like the 80Mb+ SP1 original download.

With a bit of luck the image I created after downloading SP1 (but before
installing) will have the complete download and installer file. If so,
I'll copy it to the laptop and run spinstall.exe. I always have the
image to restore if things go pear-shaped...
There is a standalone download for SP1. When things like that become available,
I keep a copy for family and friends (like when someone wants it ten years
from now and you can't get it any more). The benefit of doing it this way,
is the download completes in one shot, and you don't have to "watch it", like
doing SP1 from Windows Update. Your download bill is likely 10x what it would
take to do it via Windows Update, but the advantage is, it's not an interactive
process between the computer receiving the update, and the Microsoft server.
(Considering how many times my ADSL connection dropped yesterday, there is no
way I could have done anything "interactive", as the connection would have died
before anything completed.)

(If you have a 64 bit install, it would be the 903.2MB one)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=C3202CE6-4056-4059-8A1B-3A9B77CDFDDA

There is also another tool, which addresses Windows Update issues, and some
kind of problem they've created with the store. You can give this a try, if
you've run out of things to download, but it doesn't necessarily do anything
to help SP1. Run this first, then give SP1 a shot.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821

As with any major surgery, considering the number of problem reports and the
variety of symptoms, make a backup of C: before pressing the button.

Paul
 
J

Jeff Layman

That indicates to me that you are no longer at SP1. A) WINVER reports
SP1 on the message box and B) the build number increments to 7601.

If you are referring to System Restore as in the Microsoft Windows
System Restore, the oldest one in the list would correspond to the
system state backup that happens right when you launch the SP1
installation. Any restore point newer than that would be post-SP1 as
anything prior to the SP1 installation would have been deleted.
Thanks. I just checked system restore and there are numerous restore
points prior to SP1. So maybe SP1 didn't wipe the SR list, and when I
restored to pre-SP1 the list remained.
 
J

Jeff Layman

There is a standalone download for SP1. When things like that become
available,
I keep a copy for family and friends (like when someone wants it ten years
from now and you can't get it any more). The benefit of doing it this way,
is the download completes in one shot, and you don't have to "watch it",
like
doing SP1 from Windows Update. Your download bill is likely 10x what it
would
take to do it via Windows Update, but the advantage is, it's not an
interactive
process between the computer receiving the update, and the Microsoft
server.
(Considering how many times my ADSL connection dropped yesterday, there
is no
way I could have done anything "interactive", as the connection would
have died
before anything completed.)

(If you have a 64 bit install, it would be the 903.2MB one)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=C3202CE6-4056-4059-8A1B-3A9B77CDFDDA


There is also another tool, which addresses Windows Update issues, and some
kind of problem they've created with the store. You can give this a try, if
you've run out of things to download, but it doesn't necessarily do
anything
to help SP1. Run this first, then give SP1 a shot.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821
I downloaded and ran that. Said it was installing hotfix KB947821! Not
sure what that means, but thanks for the suggestion. I'll try
downloading SP1 again.
 
R

relic

Jeff Layman said:
Thanks. I just checked system restore and there are numerous restore
points prior to SP1. So maybe SP1 didn't wipe the SR list, and when I
restored to pre-SP1 the list remained.
SP1 did not install. Had it, there wouldn't be any 'prior' restore points
listed.
 
J

Jeff Layman

SP1 did not install. Had it, there wouldn't be any 'prior' restore
points listed.
Nope. First time round I got the confirmation message that SP1 was
installed. Maybe it didn't install 100% accurately, but it definitely
was installed before I screwed up with Autoruns.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Control Panel---> System---> Voila
Which is exactly the old slow method I alluded to...

But Bob I has an even quicker method. The only disadvantage is that I
have to remember it :)

But in any case, saving a second or two every time I need to look at the
panel will add 9 seconds to my life.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Nope. First time round I got the confirmation message that SP1 was
installed. Maybe it didn't install 100% accurately, but it definitely
was installed before I screwed up with Autoruns.
In my view the evidence is that it did *not* install.
 

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