send link by email greyed out

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Gene E. Bloch

As I pointed out in an earlier message in this thread, it's not a
question of a good idea or not. It's simply not possible.
Sort of.

As I understand it, Outlook can (or could in earlier versions) be
configured to use Outlook Express as a plug-in-like app to read
newsgroups.

Strictly speaking, of course, it wasn't Outlook that was reading the
newsgroups, but to the user (especially a naive one) that might not be
obvious.

It might have been nice if MS could have allowed other newsreaders to be
used that way as well.
 
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Beauregard said:
I see that too. It's puzzling, since it is certainly no more difficult
to set up than Outhouse Distress...

Posting from it now; took me less than a minute to set it up.
The "problem" arises when the server changes the indexing of posts in
its database. If you have an old index locally, the swerver gives an
error message when you try to download new posts. You have to *delete*
the account and any remaining folders and then RE-subscribe.


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Ken Blake

Sort of.

As I understand it, Outlook can (or could in earlier versions) be
configured to use Outlook Express as a plug-in-like app to read
newsgroups.

No, it wasn't anything at all like a plug-in app. It simply linked to
Outlook Express (and the link could easily be changed to any other
program you want). There was simply a button called something like
"newsgroups" that, when clicked, started Outlook Express.


Strictly speaking, of course, it wasn't Outlook that was reading the
newsgroups, but to the user (especially a naive one) that might not be
obvious.

That's very much correct. There were *many* people (perhaps including
Evan Platt) who mistakenly thought Outlook Express did newsgroups.

It might have been nice if MS could have allowed other newsreaders to be
used that way as well.

They did and it was easy to change (although I no longer remember how
I did it).
 
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Char Jackson

That's very much correct. There were *many* people (perhaps including
Evan Platt) who mistakenly thought Outlook Express did newsgroups.
And that's why Outlook versus Outlook Express was so confusing. Even
people who know better sometimes confuse the two. ;-)

(You obviously meant to say Outlook above.)
 
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KCB

john east said:
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The pc i use posting to this group is this one which has xp and outlook
express. The one I'm having trouble with is a *new* one with Win7,
internet explorer9 and windows live mail.

I was quite happy with outlook express especially as i could access
newsgroups via eternal-september.com.

Someone suggested i download 'outlook 2003' for my emails in preference to
windows live mail, and that i could also get my newsgroups from eternal
september. Would you think that is a good idea?

Basically being a simple soul i'm looking for the most trouble free option
to get my newsgroups via eternal september. I emailed them asking for
advice, saying i no longer had OE and wanted to find the best way to get
newsgroups from them , but got no reply.

I have now done a *system restore* to a few days ago and the send 'link by
email' is now restored. Dont know which program upset this function, it
may have been 'voip stunt' shall go to more recent restore points to see
if i can find out what caused it.

Cannot understand why a perfectly good email program like outlook express
has to be phased out. Also i could use my free eternal-september for
newsgroups with outlook express. Thanks to all.
If you want to copy your eternal September account from OE to WLM, do this:
In OE, click Tools->Accounts. Select your eternal September account under
the "All" tab, then click the Export button. This will give you a *.iaf
file with server settings, user name, etc... Save this to a thumb drive,
then go put the thumb drive in your Win7 machine and start up WLM.

Again, it will be Tools->Accounts, then click the Import button. In the
file dialog box, point to the *.iaf file on your thumb drive, and your
account will be set up on WLM. If you don't have a thumb drive, then email
the file to yourself.

I suggest NOT using the newest version of WLM (15.XX...), but look for the
2009 version (14.XX...). I posted a link to a page which has a download, in
this newsgroup in the thread "'Upgrading' from WLM 2011 to WLM 2009". good
luck
 
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Ken Blake

And that's why Outlook versus Outlook Express was so confusing. Even
people who know better sometimes confuse the two. ;-)

(You obviously meant to say Outlook above.)

OOPS!! Yes, of course that's what I meant. Sorry.

However in my defense, let me point out that my error was a one-letter
one. I use AutoHotKey and have it set so that typing "ol" produces
"Outlook," and typing "oe" produces "Outlook Express."
 
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Gene E. Bloch

No, it wasn't anything at all like a plug-in app. It simply linked to
Outlook Express (and the link could easily be changed to any other
program you want). There was simply a button called something like
"newsgroups" that, when clicked, started Outlook Express.
Not sure why this isn't like a plug-in...
That's very much correct. There were *many* people (perhaps including
Evan Platt) who mistakenly thought Outlook Express did newsgroups.



They did and it was easy to change (although I no longer remember how
I did it).
Your explanation above (correcting my *analogy*), where you mentioned
changing the link from OE to another app, sounds to me like a clue, but
I never used Outlook for mail or OE for news, so I have nothing that
could be called knowledge.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

OOPS!! Yes, of course that's what I meant. Sorry.

However in my defense, let me point out that my error was a one-letter
one. I use AutoHotKey and have it set so that typing "ol" produces
"Outlook," and typing "oe" produces "Outlook Express."
That's one difference between us. I have to think wrong to make an error
(as I often enough *do*).
 
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Ken Blake

Not sure why this isn't like a plug-in...

Because no software was "plugged into" Outlook. The only thing in
Outlook was the name of the exe file that would be invoked if you
clicked the button. And also unlike a plugin, it was very easy to
change the name of the exe file to something else.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Because no software was "plugged into" Outlook. The only thing in
Outlook was the name of the exe file that would be invoked if you
clicked the button. And also unlike a plugin, it was very easy to
change the name of the exe file to something else.
I didn't way it *was* a plugin.

But I accept your arguments as to why it *isn't* a plugin :).
 
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Ken Blake

I didn't way it *was* a plugin.

No, you said "*like* a plugin." I understand. I was explaining that a
plugin is software, and since this isn't software, it wasn't at all
like a plugin.

But no big deal. I certainly don't want to argue with you about what
"like" means.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

No, you said "*like* a plugin." I understand. I was explaining that a
plugin is software, and since this isn't software, it wasn't at all
like a plugin.

But no big deal. I certainly don't want to argue with you about what
"like" means.
But now you confuse me since you seem to be saying that OE is not
software. So, I'll take it that you mean that all that happens to
Outlook is that a link is placed therein, rather than code being
inserted into it. I'm not much less confused by that :)
 
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Ken Blake

But now you confuse me since you seem to be saying that OE is not
software.

No, no. What I meant was ...

So, I'll take it that you mean that all that happens to
Outlook is that a link is placed therein, rather than code being
inserted into it.

Yes, exactly.
 
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DGDevin wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote ...
>
>> john east wrote:
>>
>>> Using Internet Explorer 9 and windows 7, The option to send 'link by
>>> e-mail' option is *greyed* out.(as is also send 'page by e-mail')
>>
>> Under control panel, Default programs. click on your preferred email
>> client and set it as default.

>
> You have to go a step past that, to Choose Defaults For This Program
> and click the boxes for things you want WLM to do, including
> forwarding links. Otherwise even if WLM is the default mail program
> the Send Link By E-Mail feature will remain greyed-out.


Actually you have to get a step BEFORE both which is to actually
*install* an e-mail client since Windows 7 doesn't come with one.

Notice the OP posted using Outlook Express which means it is likely the
OP posted from his Windows 7 host (unless he knows about installing the
Windows XP license for XP Mode on some versions of Windows 7).
Microsoft stopped bundling OE with Internet Explore back as of version 7
of IE. The base version in Windows 7 in IE8. OE is not available as a
separate install from IE. So you can't get OE on Windows 7 unless you
use the Windows XP license with XP Mode (which is usable only on some
versions of Windows 7).

The OP needs to install an e-mail client before he can pick one as the
default.
I am using IE 9 on a Windows 7 OS. I have to continuosly reset my Default Programs to use my "Send Link by Email" and my "Send Page by Email", I haven't discovered a fix yet so that I don't have to keep resetting my Deault Programs! Any ideas.
 

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