Remote Access

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Dell Christopher

Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me with
their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation for a
remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects in
Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User Account
Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I don't spend 10
minutes just walking someone through the process of launching the app and
letting me in?

Thanks!
 
B

blues2use

Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me
with their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation
for a remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects
in Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User
Account Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I
don't spend 10 minutes just walking someone through the process of
launching the app and letting me in?

Thanks!
I use Teamviewer to help out folks that are remote to me. It's very easy
for anyone to download and run and I've not had any connectivity problems.

HTH
 
C

Carroll Robbins

-0800 in said:
Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me with
their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation for a
remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects in
Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User Account
Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I don't spend 10
minutes just walking someone through the process of launching the app and
letting me in?
I use TightVNC and dyndns (both free) on my LAN and the Internet. Usage
requires no involvement by the person you are helping once you set it up
correctly. Both computers have to be on, not sleeping.
 
C

Char Jackson

Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me with
their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation for a
remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects in
Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User Account
Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I don't spend 10
minutes just walking someone through the process of launching the app and
letting me in?
I use the free version of LogMeIn. Once installed on the target
computer, no user interaction is required. When I get a support call,
I can log in remotely to watch what the person is doing and guide them
via phone, or I can take control and show them how to do something. I
can also log in after hours, when I need to do mundane tasks that they
aren't interested in observing.

<www.logmein.com>
 
V

VanguardLH

Dell said:
Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me with
their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation for a
remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects in
Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User Account
Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I don't spend 10
minutes just walking someone through the process of launching the app and
letting me in?
Remote apps that don't require punching holes in firewalls, setting up
static IP addresses or using DNS redirect services (DynDNS, NoIP), and
are simple as loading a web browser to a site.

LogMeIn Free
- Free only for home use, 14-day trial business use.
- Limited to 16 hosts.
- Reduced features from Pro version: no file management, file sharing,
remote printing, remote sound, HD remote control, desktop sharing,
remote Dashboard, or management of Windows/MS updates.

TeamViewer
- No "free" service is mentioned at their site, just the 7-day trial and
paid business plans. In fact, they seem to deliberately hide their free
service. You find random mention of the free service at places like
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/currentversion.aspx where there's
a line that says "TeamViewer is free for all non-commercial users" but
says nothing about the limitations, like a max number of remote hosts,
for a free account versus a business or paid account.

Mikogo
- Business or home use (no restriction).
- Max of up to 3 hosts in a session in free account: controller + 2
remote hosts.
- All features (no crippling).

Why are you walking the remote users through anything? You send them an
e-mail invite (or tell them) and they click on a link to visit the site.
To install the local client is just like they've done with any other
site that asked how to install an AX control (e.g., Flash Player,
Windows Genuine Advantage at the WU site). They see notice that the
site requires the client program to install on their host so it's their
choice whether to do it or not. They enter the login credentials to
establish the remote session to which you invited them. These are
invite scheme, not dictator schemes. You ASK someone else to
participate in a session, you don't force them.

If you want a method of wresting control of a remote host without using
an invite or gaining permission by the other user (like when they won't
be around or for your own host when travelling with your laptop), then
look at using some variant of VNC. I believe LogMeIn and TeamViewer can
also setup a "server" on the remote host to accept connections to it (I
haven't used Mikogo to know for sure). Of course, if it's someone
else's host, they proabably won't appreciate you taking control when
they are trying to use their own host.

VNC will require you punch holes in your firewall and use a DNS redirect
service (DynDNS, NoIP) if your remote hosts have dynamically assigned IP
addresses. If there's a router in the remote setup, you'll have to
configure it to port-forward the external connection to the appropriate
intranet host (using different ports lets you punch through to different
intranet hosts). LogMeIn, TeamView, and Mikogo do the same as VNC
except no firewall punching is required (because their client makes an
outbound connect to their server using HTTP just like a web browser so
there's no unsolicited inbound connection to protect against) while also
providing the DNS redirect service (the controller and remote hosts
connect to their server to find each other and thereafter connect
directly to each other).

Regarding the disconnects, is any of the remote hosts (the one you want
to control) using DSL or dial-up for Internet access?
 
M

misanthrope

Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me
with their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation
for a remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects
in Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User
Account Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I
don't spend 10 minutes just walking someone through the process of
launching the app and letting me in?

Thanks!

Try Join.me.

(the url is 'join.me')
 
K

Ken Blake

Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me with
their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation for a
remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects in
Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User Account
Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I don't spend 10
minutes just walking someone through the process of launching the app and
letting me in?

I'm happy with TeamViewer
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

I use TightVNC and dyndns (both free) on my LAN and the Internet. Usage
requires no involvement by the person you are helping once you set it up
correctly. Both computers have to be on, not sleeping.
The biggest problem with that approach for systems on a remote network
is you have to walk them through setting up exceptions in the Windows
and router firewalls - not exactly the easiest thing to do with non-
technical people.

LogMeIn Free and TeamViewer use outbound connections from the remote
end so they don't suffer from this problem.
 
C

Carroll Robbins

Jan 2012 14:26:08 -0500 in
The biggest problem with that approach for systems on a remote network
is you have to walk them through setting up exceptions in the Windows
and router firewalls - not exactly the easiest thing to do with non-
technical people.

LogMeIn Free and TeamViewer use outbound connections from the remote
end so they don't suffer from this problem.
I set it all up during a visit. My father didn't do anything. He's 82 years
old and doesn't like change. It's invisible to him.
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Jan 2012 14:26:08 -0500 in


I set it all up during a visit. My father didn't do anything. He's 82 years
old and doesn't like change. It's invisible to him.
Sure, if you have the benefit of starting with an on-site visit, but
the OP is talking about a solution for people who live out of state.
In that situation an initial setup visit might not be very practical.
 
T

The Seabat

The one I use is CrossLoop at www.crossloop.com . Just ignore the
links for creating an account (click the red X and close the open
browsers) and have them give you the code number for the session and
away you go. Been using this for a couple of years now and have had no
problems, don't have to mess with firewall, nothin'. It's totally
free.
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message said:
Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me
with their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation
for a remote access app.
[]
I use Teamviewer to help out folks that are remote to me. It's very easy
for anyone to download and run and I've not had any connectivity problems.

HTH
Seconded. It doesn't seem to disconnect; I've used it, from this XP
machine, to control machines running XP, Vista, and 7. They just ring me
up*, I say run Teamviewer, they do, and they read to me the computer ID
number and password number. (If I've helped them this way before, I can
save the computer ID number - as, for example, "Margaret's laptop", i.
e. I can give it a name local to me - so they only need to give me the
(four digit) password number, which is different each time. They don't
have to download the whole thing or install anything - they can get
"Teamviewer QS" ("quick start" or something like that), alias
http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS_en.exe, which doesn't
need installing, they just run it.

* I say they ring me up: some of them Skype me instead. Teamviewer and
Skype can run together. (Well, on this machine, Skype starts off fine,
but falls over after a few minutes, as its taking all the CPU resources
[no not memory], for a reason that I haven't got to the bottom of yet,
but that's not TeamViewer's fault - it falls over even if I'm not using
TeamViewer. If Skype _does_ start to lock up while I'm using TeamViewer
but I manage to kill Skype, TeamViewer usually just carries on working
regardless.)

It - though I would assume this applies to any desktop-visualisation
solution - is very useful with those of my helpees who are blind; them
describing their screen is problematical anyway, since their access
software "sees" things differently from how I would. So it's doubly
useful for me to be able to see their screen.

TeamViewer can be terminated at any time by the helpee.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Sew on a sequin, when you've felt fate's piercing dart; if you're in the equinox
of life - 'twill cheer your heart. Gather your organza; shimmer; shine; be gay;
don't give in to tears, just emulate the Milky Way. (Dillie Keane; sing to heavy
Tango tempo.)
 
C

Char Jackson

In message <[email protected]>,


Seconded. It doesn't seem to disconnect; I've used it, from this XP
machine, to control machines running XP, Vista, and 7. They just ring me
up*, I say run Teamviewer, they do, and they read to me the computer ID
number and password number. (If I've helped them this way before, I can
save the computer ID number - as, for example, "Margaret's laptop", i.
e. I can give it a name local to me - so they only need to give me the
(four digit) password number, which is different each time. They don't
have to download the whole thing or install anything - they can get
"Teamviewer QS" ("quick start" or something like that), alias
http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS_en.exe, which doesn't
need installing, they just run it.
If Teamviewer requires all of that messing around by the person
needing help, you'll probably love the ease and simplicity of apps
like LogMeIn. Once installed, its client runs all the time so you can
connect whenever you need to. The person needing help doesn't need to
do anything. They don't even need to be present.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Char Jackson
If Teamviewer requires all of that messing around by the person
needing help, you'll probably love the ease and simplicity of apps
like LogMeIn. Once installed, its client runs all the time so you can
connect whenever you need to. The person needing help doesn't need to
do anything. They don't even need to be present.
Horses for courses: although I think all those whom I help trust me
completely, _I_ am a bit unsure of having something running on their
machine which means I can access it any time I want. As for "all of that
messing around", there isn't that much. It goes like this:

1. Them: "John, I've got a problem."
2. Me: "Run TeamViewer."
3. Them: "Doing so."
6. Me: "What's the password it's showing?"

Thereafter, they need do nothing but watch me moving their mouse.

(4. and 5. - getting the other number it shows - needs only be done the
first time I help them; I remember that on my computer after that.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Sew on a sequin, when you've felt fate's piercing dart; if you're in the
equinox
of life - 'twill cheer your heart. Gather your organza; shimmer; shine; be gay;
don't give in to tears, just emulate the Milky Way. (Dillie Keane; sing to
heavy
Tango tempo.)
 
C

Carroll Robbins

Jan 2012 14:50:30 -0500 in
Sure, if you have the benefit of starting with an on-site visit, but
the OP is talking about a solution for people who live out of state.
In that situation an initial setup visit might not be very practical.
I assume the OP occasionally visits his parents and sister and can set it
up then. My father lived out of state when I set his up. I have since moved
next door to him.
 
J

Jolly polly

Dell Christopher said:
Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me
with their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation for
a remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects
in Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User Account
Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I don't spend
10 minutes just walking someone through the process of launching the app
and letting me in?

Thanks!
You don't say how the computers are connected, WiFi or Wired. WiFi will
always drop the connection more often than wired, although it's getting
better all the time it's still flakey compared with wired. If trying to
connect remotely I would always recommend wired.
If you have Windows 7 Pro or above there is always remote desktop of course.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

You don't say how the computers are connected, WiFi or Wired. WiFi will
always drop the connection more often than wired, although it's getting
better all the time it's still flakey compared with wired. If trying to
connect remotely I would always recommend wired.
If you have Windows 7 Pro or above there is always remote desktop of course.
To connect via wire to an out-of-state computer will require a lot of
wire :)

I suspect the link is via the Internet.
 
C

Char Jackson

To connect via wire to an out-of-state computer will require a lot of
wire :)
What I do is put a big roll of wire in the trunk and let it play out
while I drive.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:07:00 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
What I do is put a big roll of wire in the trunk and let it play out
while I drive.
That's also the way to get long range from an electric vehicle.

But that's based on a joke that's so old that no one will any longer
think I'm young :)
 
D

Dell Christopher

Many thanks for the suggestions. I will give TeamViewer and LogMeIn a try.



"Dell Christopher" wrote in message

Both my sister and parents live out of state, and occasionally call me with
their computer problems. I'm interested in a good recommendation for a
remote access app.

I've been using ShowMyPC, but I don't like how it constantly disconnects in
Windows 7 machines (I'm guessing it's something to do with User Account
Control). Is there a better solution, especially one where I don't spend 10
minutes just walking someone through the process of launching the app and
letting me in?

Thanks!
 

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