REEEAAAALLLLLY tired of "Access is denied"!!!!

[Gordon]

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Install Epson Print CD software and then try to save files to the Epson
Print CD directory where the software happily kept its data files when
it was installed under XP. At least that's where I've encountered
problems so far.

Then the Epson Print CD software is not compatible with Windows 7....

 

[DanS]

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I didn't say that anywhere.

No, you didn't.....

........but that would be the implication by claiming it's good
that UAC makes you 'Allow' a program everytime because even
though it was OK yesterday, maybe today it was infected by
something.

If UAC isn't going to tell you there's a difference now
compared to last time it ran, what good is it? You'll just
click through, every time, NO MATTER IF YOU STOP AND READ WHAT
IT SAYS BECAUSE IT WILL ALWAYS SAY THE SAME THING.

 

[Seth]

No, you didn't.....

.......but that would be the implication by claiming it's good
that UAC makes you 'Allow' a program everytime because even
though it was OK yesterday, maybe today it was infected by
something.

If UAC isn't going to tell you there's a difference now
compared to last time it ran, what good is it? You'll just
click through, every time, NO MATTER IF YOU STOP AND READ WHAT
IT SAYS BECAUSE IT WILL ALWAYS SAY THE SAME THING.

Completely true and I didn't say otherwise. My software is either UAC
compliant OR I have installed it in the user space. If I get a UAC prompt
something is wrong. It's not the end-all, be-all for everyone but it's
working for me and the machines within my company that I am responsible for.

I have said to others that if UAC is becoming more of a burden than
protection to turn it off, just that I don't recommend it.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Then the Epson Print CD software is not compatible with Windows 7....

The trick is to install it in some other directory tree than Program
Filies or Program FIles (x86).

I created and use "C:\Programs (Other)" for such programs.

 

[Nil]

The trick is to install it in some other directory tree than
Program Filies or Program FIles (x86).

I created and use "C:\Programs (Other)" for such programs.

This was suggested several times to the OP, but he declines to take the
simple way out in favor of agony and excuses to complain.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

alt.windows7.general:

This was suggested several times to the OP, but he declines to take the
simple way out in favor of agony and excuses to complain.

I was really replying to Gordon, who is a human being

I see that I was careless about spelling, although I kind of like
"Program Filies" as a folder name...

 

[DGDevin]

"Gordon" wrote in message

Then the Epson Print CD software is not compatible with Windows 7....

It installs just fine, and I can load old designs into it and edit them, and
save the results (or a new design) to other locations. I just can't save
files to the directory where the software lives which is its default
location for storing files. It isn't a life & death issue, it's just
annoying.

 

[DGDevin]

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

The trick is to install it in some other directory tree than Program
Filies or Program FIles (x86).

I created and use "C:\Programs (Other)" for such programs.

Aha! Now that I've moved the data files for the sofware it's working okay,
but in future I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

P.S. Is this an issue for older software in particular?

 

[Nil]

Aha! Now that I've moved the data files for the sofware it's
working okay, but in future I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

P.S. Is this an issue for older software in particular?

It's an issue for any program that tries to save user configuration
data in the program location. Most programs written in the past several
years knows to store user and configuration in that user's profile.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

Aha! Now that I've moved the data files for the sofware it's working okay,
but in future I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

P.S. Is this an issue for older software in particular?

Yes.

To be more accurate: software that is programmed properly for Vista and
Win 7 doesn't store its data in the protected folders, meaning Program
Files & Program Files (x86). Also, older software that uses the same
approach has no problems.

The new software tends to use one of the user App Data folders, such as
C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\. The old software that works OK
could do almost anything, as long as it isn't going into the standard
program folders.

Note that the Program Files (x86) folder is found only on 64-bit
versions of Windows.

 

[BillW50]

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... My software is either UAC compliant OR I have installed it in the
user space.

Excuse me? You mean if you install a program in the user space, UAC
never complains about it?

 

[BillW50]

In

No, I wasn't. I just pointed out what you do.

Not so! You are complaining about what I do.

You don't want that. You don't want a solution. You just want to
bitch.

Also false! I have found lots of solutions to my problems (including how
to remove libraries) and helped some others along the way.

I don't do binaries.

Then stop your complaining!

No, it isn't.

Also wrong! Here is what you do.

complain
vb (intr)
1. to express resentment, displeasure, etc., esp habitually; grumble
2. (foll by of) to state the presence of pain, illness, etc., esp in the
hope of sympathy she complained of a headache

Only in your twisted dreams.

You have been wrong with every turn in your last post. Keep it up and
nobody is ever going to believe a word that you say.

 

[Seth]

In

Excuse me? You mean if you install a program in the user space, UAC never
complains about it?

For the items that insist on saving to their own programs folder, yes. And
that's been mentioned elsewhere in this thread. EG: Not installing those
applications in \Program Files.

For things that still want to modify files in \Windows or HKLM or the such,
yes it would still complain.

 

[BillW50]

In

For the items that insist on saving to their own programs folder,
yes. And that's been mentioned elsewhere in this thread. EG: Not
installing those applications in \Program Files.

For things that still want to modify files in \Windows or HKLM or the
such, yes it would still complain.

Well that is a huge help! As the ones that gives me the most trouble are
the stand alone types. And for those that can't, it sounds like
installing them in a sandbox should take of them as well. So this news
is a huge help. Many thanks Seth. ;-)

 

[Char Jackson]

In

Well that is a huge help! As the ones that gives me the most trouble are
the stand alone types. And for those that can't, it sounds like
installing them in a sandbox should take of them as well. So this news
is a huge help. Many thanks Seth. ;-)

By my count, basically the same information was provided 4 times
before this, for a total of 5 times. VanguardLH was right, it takes
awhile to sink in.

 

[abovepar]

For the items that insist on saving to their own programs folder, yes.
And that's been mentioned elsewhere in this thread. EG: Not installing
those applications in \Program Files.

For things that still want to modify files in \Windows or HKLM or the
such, yes it would still complain.

Seth

I feel your instruction could be useful if only I could take it in.

If an application called Blippit insists on saving data and/or settings
to its own programs folder, where might be a good folder for user DougS
to install it to avoid UAC complaints? Would that be something like
C:\Users\DougS\Program Files\Blippit\? And if users other than DougS are
to have access to Blippit, would a good place perhaps be
C:\Users\Default\Program Files\Blippit\? And could Program Files be
shortened to ProgAlt without damage?

I'm using Win7_32HP, but expect to change to Win7_64HP for my next PC.

Am I on the right track?

DougS

 

[Seth]

Seth

I feel your instruction could be useful if only I could take it in.

If an application called Blippit insists on saving data and/or settings to
its own programs folder, where might be a good folder for user DougS to
install it to avoid UAC complaints? Would that be something like
C:\Users\DougS\Program Files\Blippit\? And if users other than DougS are
to have access to Blippit, would a good place perhaps be
C:\Users\Default\Program Files\Blippit\? And could Program Files be
shortened to ProgAlt without damage?

I'm using Win7_32HP, but expect to change to Win7_64HP for my next PC.

Am I on the right track?

Somewhere under C:\Users\Public will allow all users to have access.
C:\Users\Public\ProgAlt 9from your example) is fine. Other than the
"protected" folders, the folder name used really has no bearing. Call it
C:\Users\Public\CrapICantFigureABetterLocationFor\ if you like...

 

[abovepar]

Somewhere under C:\Users\Public will allow all users to have access.
C:\Users\Public\ProgAlt 9from your example) is fine. Other than the
"protected" folders, the folder name used really has no bearing. Call it
C:\Users\Public\CrapICantFigureABetterLocationFor\ if you like...

Seth, that helps - thanks.

DougS

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I feel your instruction could be useful if only I could take it in.

If an application called Blippit insists on saving data and/or settings to
its own programs folder, where might be a good folder for user DougS to
install it to avoid UAC complaints? Would that be something like
C:\Users\DougS\Program Files\Blippit\? And if users other than DougS are to
have access to Blippit, would a good place perhaps be
C:\Users\Default\Program Files\Blippit\? And could Program Files be shortened
to ProgAlt without damage?

I'm using Win7_32HP, but expect to change to Win7_64HP for my next PC.

Am I on the right track?

DougS

I created a folder off the root with an appropriate name (such as
C:\Programs Extra) and put all my problem programs in there; that way
it ends up looking like another program files folder, but Windows
doesn't protect it.

 

[Bob I]

Somewhere under C:\Users\Public will allow all users to have access.
C:\Users\Public\ProgAlt 9from your example) is fine. Other than the
"protected" folders, the folder name used really has no bearing. Call it
C:\Users\Public\CrapICantFigureABetterLocationFor\ if you like...

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