Reducing my unnessary startup programs

[...winston]

Multiple HP programs in startup can be squirrelly and unpredictable sometimes dependent on the others.
Disable one without the others can produce dialog box errors on the desktop. Additionally 'Services' may be loaded that are not
present in Msconfig.
Prior to disabling HP items, one should let them load and open each and look for options (if available) to disable on startup,
close the application, then revisit Msconfig and disable the HP startup options. If dialog box errors continue look for HP items in
Services, stop the service and change the action to manual or disable.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Char Jackson" wrote in message

+1

That's good advice. If you want to remove *any* startup program it's
best to do it one at a time, and make sure system restore is working
first (or you can boot to the "last known good"). It may take a bit
longer to do it one program at a time, but if the computer suddenly
won't boot, you'll know which one is causing the problem, and shouldn't
be removed from startup.

I can't think of anything typically found in Startup that would
prevent, or even affect, the basic booting capability of the system.
The system has essentially already booted by the time it looks in
Startup.

 

[Emrys Davies]

I think you have too many being run together at start-up.
You can keep the others installed if you want to and run them manually if
or when you think you need to.

Thanks a lot. Really good advice and will act accordingly.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Have I sensed correctly that the programs which start Windows at bootup are
not included in Startup menu?

Something quite instructive is the program called Autoruns, a free
download from Microsoft's web site.

It lists all the things that run at startup and where they are located.
It also seems to list some places that could contain startup items but
are currently empty

It will scare you. At least, it scares me...

On my computer it shows ~35 pages with 38 lines per page, but some of
those lines are the empty places I mentioned.

My advice: ignore what I said above

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Winston.

In this context, does HP mean Hewlett Packard? Or Home Premium?

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"...winston" wrote in message
Multiple HP programs in startup can be squirrelly and unpredictable
sometimes dependent on the others.
Disable one without the others can produce dialog box errors on the desktop.
Additionally 'Services' may be loaded that are not
present in Msconfig.
Prior to disabling HP items, one should let them load and open each and look
for options (if available) to disable on startup,
close the application, then revisit Msconfig and disable the HP startup
options. If dialog box errors continue look for HP items in
Services, stop the service and change the action to manual or disable.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Char Jackson" wrote in message

+1

That's good advice. If you want to remove *any* startup program it's
best to do it one at a time, and make sure system restore is working
first (or you can boot to the "last known good"). It may take a bit
longer to do it one program at a time, but if the computer suddenly
won't boot, you'll know which one is causing the problem, and shouldn't
be removed from startup.

I can't think of anything typically found in Startup that would
prevent, or even affect, the basic booting capability of the system.
The system has essentially already booted by the time it looks in
Startup.

 

[richard]

I have Win7 Home Premium 64 bit.

I have twenty programs in Startup and I would like to remove or disable
those which are not necessary.

If I go to msconfig.exe > startup and use 'Print Screen' and Wordpad how can
I get the latter to this forum for advice, or is there a better way. Many
years ago I used to compare my Startup programs with an internet site which
classified them as either Y, N, U, X or ?, but the latter has not been
updated and no longer seems to be the answer.

I believe what you are speaking of is not the start up menu you find when
you click on the windows logo start button.
Those programs can be controlled by you.

The programs you speak of, are installed in the boot process.
Then listed in various locations in a "startup" tab of a reporting program.
If you deleted these, chances are, the installed programs won't run.
The only safe way to remove these programs, is to totally unistall with the
provided uninstaller or through the control panel.

 

[...winston]

Hewlett Packard (printers)


"R. C. White" wrote in message

Hi, Winston.

In this context, does HP mean Hewlett Packard? Or Home Premium?

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"...winston" wrote in message
Multiple HP programs in startup can be squirrelly and unpredictable
sometimes dependent on the others.
Disable one without the others can produce dialog box errors on the desktop.
Additionally 'Services' may be loaded that are not
present in Msconfig.
Prior to disabling HP items, one should let them load and open each and look
for options (if available) to disable on startup,
close the application, then revisit Msconfig and disable the HP startup
options. If dialog box errors continue look for HP items in
Services, stop the service and change the action to manual or disable.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Char Jackson" wrote in message

+1

That's good advice. If you want to remove *any* startup program it's
best to do it one at a time, and make sure system restore is working
first (or you can boot to the "last known good"). It may take a bit
longer to do it one program at a time, but if the computer suddenly
won't boot, you'll know which one is causing the problem, and shouldn't
be removed from startup.

I can't think of anything typically found in Startup that would
prevent, or even affect, the basic booting capability of the system.
The system has essentially already booted by the time it looks in
Startup.

 

[Jeff Layman]

Multiple HP programs in startup can be squirrelly and unpredictable sometimes dependent on the others.
Disable one without the others can produce dialog box errors on the desktop. Additionally 'Services' may be loaded that are not
present in Msconfig.
Prior to disabling HP items, one should let them load and open each and look for options (if available) to disable on startup,
close the application, then revisit Msconfig and disable the HP startup options. If dialog box errors continue look for HP items in
Services, stop the service and change the action to manual or disable.

Indeed. It was an HP laptop I screwed up (although it was by using
Autoruns rather than deleting things in the Startup folder). But I am
convinced it was an HP something I checked in Autoruns to stop running
at boot which caused the problem.

 

[Jeff Layman]

Something quite instructive is the program called Autoruns, a free
download from Microsoft's web site.

It lists all the things that run at startup and where they are located.
It also seems to list some places that could contain startup items but
are currently empty

It will scare you. At least, it scares me..

See the reply I just made to Winston.

..

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

See the reply I just made to Winston.

.

I did. I'm sorry that you had that problem, but really, Windows can be a
bit dangerous.

Part of what I meant about scary is just that there is such an
unbelievable quantity of stuff, but the other part (at least to me) is
that the consequences of disabling an item are not at all easy to guess
:-(

That side of Windows is *not* user friendly, so Autoruns can be - no,
*is* - a sharp-edged sword.

Did you recover?

 

[Jeff Layman]

I did. I'm sorry that you had that problem, but really, Windows can be a
bit dangerous.

Part of what I meant about scary is just that there is such an
unbelievable quantity of stuff, but the other part (at least to me) is
that the consequences of disabling an item are not at all easy to guess
:-(

That side of Windows is *not* user friendly, so Autoruns can be - no,
*is* - a sharp-edged sword.

Did you recover?

Yes. Fortunately, I'd installed something the day before and a system
restore point had been set. I just restored to that.

I have not bothered with Autoruns again, reckoning that a few seconds
extra boot time isn't worth all the hassle of sorting out an unbootable
computer.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Yes. Fortunately, I'd installed something the day before and a system
restore point had been set. I just restored to that.

Good! Not to mention "Whew!"...

I have not bothered with Autoruns again, reckoning that a few seconds
extra boot time isn't worth all the hassle of sorting out an unbootable
computer.

I don't use Autoruns to save boot time, but to get rid of things I don't
want running for whatever reasons. It's a great tool, but I'll reiterate
- it does scare me.

BTW - from your description of what you turned off, I think I could have
made the same mistake.