PureText again.

  • Thread starter James Silverton
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James Silverton

I'm partly there; removed all files referring to PureText, downloaded
and ran the program. It now works if I click the icon but I cannot set
up the hot key to strip and paste.
 
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Stan Brown

I'm partly there; removed all files referring to PureText, downloaded
and ran the program. It now works if I click the icon but I cannot set
up the hot key to strip and paste.
"I cannot set up the hot key" -- What operations are you trying,
exactly, and what happens when you try them?

(Why oh why do people make vague statements like "X doesn't work" or
"I can't do X" without giving any information that might enable
others to help them?)
 
M

Mike Barnes

Stan Brown said:
Why oh why do people make vague statements like "X doesn't work" or
"I can't do X" without giving any information that might enable
others to help them?
Often it's because the details make no sense to them, so they assume
they make no sense to anyone else either.

I counter with a three-part questionnaire.

1. What did you do?
2. What did you expect to happen?
3. What actually happened?

Attempting to provide the answers those questions usually leads them to
a solution without any more input from me.
 
E

Ed Cryer

Mike said:
Often it's because the details make no sense to them, so they assume
they make no sense to anyone else either.

I counter with a three-part questionnaire.

1. What did you do?
2. What did you expect to happen?
3. What actually happened?

Attempting to provide the answers those questions usually leads them to
a solution without any more input from me.
And then you never hear from them again. They feel ashamed of
themselves; having made a mountain out of a mole-hill, having jumped to
wrong conclusions, having found a simple answer to a complex question.

Yes, that happens a lot. That's homo sapiens for you. Man the thinker,
man the muddler, man the get through it all with alarums and talarums.

Ed
 
K

Ken Blake

And then you never hear from them again. They feel ashamed of
themselves; having made a mountain out of a mole-hill, having jumped to
wrong conclusions, having found a simple answer to a complex question.

James Silverton isn't quite a regular here, but he's been posting on
and off for quite a while. I wouldn't call him someone who "makes a
mountain out of a mole-hill" or someone who "jumps to wrong
conclusions."

And if I remember correctly, he's the person from whom I first heard
about PureText (a little utility which I since have installed and find
very useful). So I thank him once more for telling us about it.
 
J

James Silverton

James Silverton isn't quite a regular here, but he's been posting on
and off for quite a while. I wouldn't call him someone who "makes a
mountain out of a mole-hill" or someone who "jumps to wrong
conclusions."

And if I remember correctly, he's the person from whom I first heard
about PureText (a little utility which I since have installed and find
very useful). So I thank him once more for telling us about it.
Thanks for the good words. What I used to able to do is press CTRL-0
(zero) for strip and paste. The problem is that I can click the PT icon
to strip formatting but I've also got to use CTRL-V to paste. I'm
probably doing something stupid but I'm much perplexed :)

No I'm not perplexed, dumb me, I had the Num Lock off. My Logitech
keyboard can be queried about the Num Lock status but does not have an
indicator light. A ridiculous Newby mistake and, while I'm far from a
Newby, I do make mistakes.
 
J

James Silverton

Thanks for the good words. What I used to able to do is press CTRL-0
(zero) for strip and paste. The problem is that I can click the PT
icon to strip formatting but I've also got to use CTRL-V to paste. I'm
probably doing something stupid but I'm much perplexed :)

No I'm not perplexed, dumb me, I had the Num Lock off. My Logitech
keyboard can be queried about the Num Lock status but does not have an
indicator light. A ridiculous Newby mistake and, while I'm far from a
Newby, I do make mistakes.
If anyone else has a Logitech K520 key board like me let me mention that
the Num Lock can be disabled with a simple click on a box in the
Keyboard program. I am going to think about using a different hot key
but, at least, PureText works.
 
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VanguardLH

James Silverton said:
I'm partly there; removed all files referring to PureText, downloaded
and ran the program. It now works if I click the icon but I cannot set
up the hot key to strip and paste.
Note: To continue a discussion within a thread, reply to THAT thread
instead of creating a new one. Select a post in the existing/old thread
to which your reply is relevant and click Reply in your newsreader.
Clicking the New button starts a new and *disconnected* new thread.
 
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VanguardLH

James Silverton said:
I'm partly there; removed all files referring to PureText, downloaded
and ran the program. It now works if I click the icon but I cannot set
up the hot key to strip and paste.
Not everyone responding uses the product, service, or hardware of which
you are asking but may still offer help. Be aware that responders may
not be using Pure Text but might suggestion solutions. Saying WHAT key
combination you are using for Pure Text might trigger someone else in
knowing Windows or other programs (and which ones) already employ that
key combo and give you a heads up of a possible keying conflict.

What happens when you hit the hotkey combo that Pure Text (or you in
[re]configuring it] uses for that particular function in Pure Text?
Anything? Or nothing?

Can the hotkey combo for that Pure Text function be reassigned to a
different keyboard combo, like one that employs Ctrl+Alt+<key>?

Are you using the numpad keys in the hotkey combo? Or just the regular
keys for the hotkey? Are you using a real keyboard or a one that gets
modified, like for laptops where you have to hit a special key to flip
key scan codes to overlap the definitions of the keys?

Tried rebooting into Windows' safe mode to see if the default (or user-
configured) hotkey for Pure Text then works okay?
 
M

Mike Barnes

James Silverton said:
What I used to able to do is press CTRL-0 (zero) for strip and paste.
The problem is that I can click the PT icon to strip formatting but
I've also got to use CTRL-V to paste. I'm probably doing something
stupid but I'm much perplexed :)

No I'm not perplexed, dumb me, I had the Num Lock off. My Logitech
keyboard can be queried about the Num Lock status but does not have an
indicator light. A ridiculous Newby mistake and, while I'm far from a
Newby, I do make mistakes.
In response to this thread I took a look at PureText and came away with
a simple question. I recognise the problem that PureText addresses, but
in all the applications I use it's possible to select "Paste Special" to
paste the unformatted text into the document. So, is PureText designed
for use with applications that don't have Paste Special (example?), or
is just a more convenient alternative?
 
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Ken Blake

In response to this thread I took a look at PureText and came away with
a simple question. I recognise the problem that PureText addresses, but
in all the applications I use it's possible to select "Paste Special" to
paste the unformatted text into the document. So, is PureText designed
for use with applications that don't have Paste Special (example?), or
is just a more convenient alternative?

In my view, it's a much more convenient alternative. I don't have to
remember which applications have Paste Special, I don't have to
remember where to find it, and I don't have to use the extra key
strokes or clicks to get there.
 
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Stan Brown

No I'm not perplexed, dumb me, I had the Num Lock off. My Logitech
keyboard can be queried about the Num Lock status but does not have an
indicator light. A ridiculous Newby mistake and, while I'm far from a
Newby, I do make mistakes.
Thanks for posting the resolution. We've all made dumb mistakes, but
confession is good for the soul and reading about those mistakes can
help others.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Thanks for posting the resolution. We've all made dumb mistakes, but
confession is good for the soul and reading about those mistakes can
help others.
+1 (or more!)
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Note: To continue a discussion within a thread, reply to THAT thread
instead of creating a new one. Select a post in the existing/old thread
to which your reply is relevant and click Reply in your newsreader.
Clicking the New button starts a new and *disconnected* new thread.
+1
 
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VanguardLH

James Silverton said:
Oh, I agree with you but if several days have elapsed it's tedious to
find the old thread :)
Your newsreader doesn't permit flagging selected threads as watched,
highlights them, and perhaps even sort them to the top of the message
list pane? If not, your complaint is about your choice of newsreader.

Also, searching is easy if your nym or subject are rather unique to
find your old post(s). How many threads are there here with "pure
text" in the subject? How many threads have your nym in them?

It wasn't a problem of tedium to find your old thread. It was your
lack of willingness to even look. Come on, you know that's what
happened.
 
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Stan Brown

Oh, I agree with you but if several days have elapsed it's tedious to
find the old thread :)
So which is more valuable, a few minutes times one poster, or a few
minutes times hundreds of thousands of readers?
 
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VanguardLH

Stan Brown said:
So which is more valuable, a few minutes times one poster, or a few
minutes times hundreds of thousands of readers?
Minutes? And a FEW of them? Took me maybe 20 seconds to click Find,
enter "James Silverton", quickly check the search options were only for
the current group (the default), and click a few times (mostly to get
out of this thread) to find the OP's old thread. That's why I suspect
it wasn't tedium but of not trying at all.

That was the little effort it took in my newsreader (40tude Dialog).
Are searches harder to perform in Thunderbird, the OP's newsreader?
 
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Mike Barnes

VanguardLH said:
Minutes? And a FEW of them? Took me maybe 20 seconds to click Find,
enter "James Silverton", quickly check the search options were only for
the current group (the default), and click a few times (mostly to get
out of this thread) to find the OP's old thread. That's why I suspect
it wasn't tedium but of not trying at all.

That was the little effort it took in my newsreader (40tude Dialog).
Are searches harder to perform in Thunderbird, the OP's newsreader?
A lot depends on how familiar you are with the procedure.
 

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