No SP1 offered

[Maurice Batey]

Once you reinstalled it, it likely became "not genuine" unless or
until you re-accomplished the "get genuine" step.

OIC.
I hadn't realised that re-installing W7 would make it less
genuine - especially as I had entered its Product Key and had it
accepted.

 

[Maurice Batey]

First, do the genuine trip. It may genuine you If it doesn't, call
Microsoft.

Go here: http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/validate/validatenow.aspx

I did go there, and it told me my W7 was 'genuine'.
Nevertheless, I was still then not allowed to download SP1 until I had
undergone yet another validation.

It's as if the validation function is not setting some value in my
system that signals 'genuine' to functions that need to know.

I'm tired of being told it's 'genuine' and then being repeatedly asked
to go through the same validation.

 

[Clog_-_wog (®)]

So, when will you start acting your age and refrain from worn out grade
school name calling? Linux cannot make anyone be anything, nor can Windows
or any other operating system. Where did you get that stupid idea?

What stupid OS will have so much losers and society rejects using it?
Only Linux.
What OS has so much cryptic and lame assed names and files that tells how
sexually deprived its lusers are (clue: PIMP)?
Only Linux.
What stupid OS will gather so much retards/losers/society rejects/metally
challenged asswipes here like Peter Kohlmann, Terry Porter, chrisv, Tattoo
shitlicker, ...er, Vampire, ...er Don Zeigler, the "7" ass slurper,
HPT-nymshifter, La-de-dah poofter boi Marti van Lin?
Only Linux.
What stupid OS is full of security holes but its lusers think that they are
safe?
Only Linux
What stupid OS has no real value that its advocates can use to advocate it,
but instead they decide to attack microsoft and bitch about them?
Only Linux.
What stupid OS has not introduced anything unique or innovated from the day
it started?
Only Linux.
What stupid OS is proven to be a failure despite all the noise and hype of
its lusers and gimps?
Only Linux.
What stupid OS is used by teenagers with penis envy that program viruses to
bring down Windows and yet fail?
Only Linux.
What stupid OS has the most ignorant user base that know nothing about other
popular OSes out there?
Only Linux.
What stupid OS still has no photoshop port?
Only linux.
What stupid OS has so many "advocates" that use Windows every day to earn a
living?
Only linux.

 

[VanguardLH]

Only because I resent being branded a thief without trial!

This falls under contract law, not criminal law. Once you agree to the
terms of a contract, you remain subject to them. Of course, you can
disobey the agreement (lack of performance) but then, of course, they
can sue. Contract law isn't actual law (it's all "case" law) until a
judge says what is legal or not. Criminal and civil law cannot cover
every conceivable contract made between humans.

No.

Well, there's something to try.

DSL

Did you configure the PPPoE in the router to enable the keep-alive
option?

No - not over the weekend.

Note that some ISPs will enforce a maximum session limit simply by
expiring the lease on the IP address they dole out to you. I've not
seen this done in my area but some UK folks bitch about this trick.
While leased IP addresses are supposed to remain usable long after they
have expired until the client unbinds from them, I remember techies
describing how PPPoE can be forced to drop the bind by directive sent
from the ISP. I'd have to go research it again but I don't use DSL so
it wouldn't help me to rediscover the info. Maybe someone else using
DSL and familiar with this trick can describe it in detail. The ISP
doesn't announce they have a max session quota, their 1st-level call
techs don't know about it, but it can be determined through targeted
testing.

When you say the download aborts, how long has the download be going?
How many hours?

 

[Maurice Batey]

It's not the same validation.

I'll leave it to others to explain that!

I'd check out Linux Mint if I were you.

No - I'll stick with Mandriva.

 

[Maurice Batey]

When you say the download aborts, how long has the download be going?
How many hours?

It aborted after about 30 minutes, 203/903 throgh the download.

 

[Char Jackson]

SP1 is just one of the things on my list that I wanted
to tick. No hurry; will put on back burner.

It's the nasty 'not genuiine Windows' insinuation I want to get
soted out.

Nobody said it's not genuine. Microsoft just wants you to validate it,
is all. I hope you can see the difference.

 

[Char Jackson]

OIC.
I hadn't realised that re-installing W7 would make it less
genuine - especially as I had entered its Product Key and had it
accepted.

Activation has to be repeated each time you reinstall the OS. Simply
entering a product key isn't enough.

 

[Maurice Batey]

Nobody said it's not genuine.

Well, Windows 7 appeared to.

Microsoft just wants you to validate it,

Which is what Windows did, and expressed doubts.

Then I used the 'Validate' web site, which said it *is* genuine
But I've had to do that over and over again, every time I tried to
download SP1.

Why can't Windows/Miscrosoft just make a note somewhwre of that, instead
of repeatedly requring validation, that's all I ask.

 

[Maurice Batey]

Activation has to be repeated each time you reinstall the OS. Simply
entering a product key isn't enough.

So why - after I entered the Product Key - did it reply:

"Activation successful" ?

And why does the system info show "Windows activated"?

 

[Dave-UK]

The MSoft 'genuine' test must be flaky.

As I said earlier, my W7 Home Premium came installed on my new PC a
year ago (though a few weeks ago, I had to do a re-install (BSOD
problems), but MSoft seemed happy with the Product Key i entered.
until now, there had been no 'genuine' doubts reports.

Is there a way to do a re-test, or find out why it fails?

Is there a way of re-entering the Product Key?

Alternatively, is there a 'remove genuine test' program out there for
W7?

Failing all that, how does one raise hell with MS on this matter?! :-((

--

Something may have interfered with the Software Protection service.
If this is somehow stopped from running once at bootup then you will
get non-genuine notices appearing.
The Startup-type should be set to: Automatic (Delayed Start)
and the Recovery tab should show First and Second failure set to Restart.

If you want to check your license then you can run the Software License Manager.
In an elevated command window run:

slmgr -dli
(this will display the current activation/licensing info)

slmgr -dlv
(same as dli but verbose)

slmgr -xpr
(shows expiration date of current license)

slmgr -upk
(this will remove the product key)

slmgr -ipk xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx
(this will replace the current product key with a specified key)

slmgr with no parameters for pages of info.

 

[Maurice Batey]

If you want to check your license then you can run the Software License Manager.
In an elevated command window run:

slmgr -dli
(this will display the current activation/licensing info)

"W7 Home Premium
Descr: Windows Op.Sys - W7 OEM_COA_NLSP Channel
Partial product key: QKVCQ
License status: Licensed"

slmgr -dlv
(same as dli but verbose)

Added e.g.

"Remaining Windows Rearm count: 3" ???!!!
"Software licensing service version: 6.1.7600.16385
Trusted time: 06/03/11 20:12:09" (i.e. the time I did this)

slmgr -xpr
(shows expiration date of current license)

"Windows 7 Home Premium Edition
The machine is permanently activated"

Does this help sort out my situation at all?

 

[John Aldred]

I did go there, and it told me my W7 was 'genuine'.
Nevertheless, I was still then not allowed to download SP1 until I had
undergone yet another validation.

It's as if the validation function is not setting some value in my
system that signals 'genuine' to functions that need to know.

I'm tired of being told it's 'genuine' and then being repeatedly asked
to go through the same validation.

I also have an activated and validated copy of W7. However if I want to
obtain the stand-alone updater file for SP1, I have to pass through the
Windows Genuine scanner to gain access to the file on the Microsoft Download
site.

This happens every time I visit that page. I think that it is just the way
that MS has set it up - bit like a scanner at the airport!

 

[Sir_George]

Course you don't mention that you don't get to see this contract
until after you've bought the software and it's too late to get your
money back if you don't agree to the terms. Why did you exclude this
very important information?

Most likely it was excluded because With very little effort you can
easily find and read the end user contract by visiting the following
site;

http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/UseTerms
/Default.aspx

(no purchase necessary)

It's not really beneficial to post inaccurate information. It would be
better to research the data first and then post.

 

[Thip]

All previous Service Packs (for XP, etc.) included lots of minor bug fixes
and enhancements. Those were never offered as an update.

Agreed, but I had problems with XP's SP1. It totally hosed my machine.
Under the circumstances, it seems to be better to wait on 7's and see what
happens.

 

[Tester]

Shouldn't you be standing on the ledge of tall building?

I am tall and there is no need to stand on a tall building. I also have
a very big big cock. Have you got an old enough daughter to try my big
cock? Post her details here so that she can be initiated to join the club.

 

[Maurice Batey]

Update still did not offer SP1

Today I *was* offered SP1!

But in view of the quoted size ("73.6MB - 892.6MB" - quite a range!)
I shall await my ISP's unmetered download weekend...

 

[John Aldred]

Today I *was* offered SP1!

But in view of the quoted size ("73.6MB - 892.6MB" - quite a range!)
I shall await my ISP's unmetered download weekend...

I saw a similar range quoted, but I believe that if you have a full patched
Home user system it will be at the bottom of the range.
From memory, my wife's laptop (X64) was approx 80 MB download.
My two desktops (32 bit) were about 60 MB each.

 

[Dave-UK]

"W7 Home Premium
Descr: Windows Op.Sys - W7 OEM_COA_NLSP Channel
Partial product key: QKVCQ
License status: Licensed"


Added e.g.

"Remaining Windows Rearm count: 3" ???!!!
"Software licensing service version: 6.1.7600.16385
Trusted time: 06/03/11 20:12:09" (i.e. the time I did this)


"Windows 7 Home Premium Edition
The machine is permanently activated"

Does this help sort out my situation at all?

--

I don't know what your situation is.
You are licensed and permanently activated so any problems
with SP1 are something else.

 

[Maurice Batey]

if you have a full patched
Home user system it will be at the bottom of the range.

You were right, of course! It was 87.2MB.

Downloaded and installed( 2 restarts) in 33 minutes. No problem.

I'm hoping that it might have fixed the problem I had with BSOD with
Pinnacle Studio (which is why I had to re-install W7) - though more
likely it is the latter than needs a Service Pack!