News reader for Win7

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Worn Out Retread

Sunny said:
For use on a "Netbook" ?
With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
live Mail as a news reader?
My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
be re-directed web based "forums")
I use Windows Live Mail.

As far as the newsgroups are concerned, Microsoft isn't the only supplier of
newsgroups and Windows Live Mail can connect with newsgroup servers that
don't belong to Microsoft.

Some alternatives are: news.datemas.de news.eternal-september.org
aioe.cjb.net
 
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bettablue

Sunny said:
For use on a "Netbook" ?
With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
live Mail as a news reader?
My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
be re-directed web based "forums")
Although many people are using WLM for email and newsgroups, there are many
choices. Look at a few and decide for yourself which is right for you. For
me, WLM is fine. But, that's just me.
 
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Bob Hatch

Thanks a lot for all your answers.


I'm quiet embarrassed, that I never stumbled over it so far, as it is
really quite easy.

It seems, that somehow I never clicked on the message menu.

I tried 'right-clicking on the message' forgetting, that the right click
menus are very often a littlre reduced in features.


Thanks again an happy news reading :)
If what you're looking to do is to "Kill" a thread you can press "K" in
Thunderbird, go to another group then back and the thread will be GONE.
Works really well for Frank and Alias crap.

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will not do. There are jobs Americans
will not be hired for because an
illegal alien has taken it."

"Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

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Ken Blake

Thanks, Looks like I have to use Agent or Thunderbird then :)
Are they both OK as e-mail programs as well ?

They both can be used for e-mail, but how good they are is your
decision. Try whichever one you want (or both) and see for yourself.
Other people work differently from the way you do, so their opinions
shouldn't matter.

Personally, I use Agent 6.0 as a newsreader (and I like it very much)
and Outlook 2010 as an e-mail client.
 
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Ken Blake

For use on a "Netbook" ?

Whether it's a netbook, a bigger notebook, or a desktop doesn't really
matter. What software you choose shouldn't be affected by that.

With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7

Outlook Express was never in Windows 7. It wasn't in Vista either;
Windows XP was the last version of Windows to include it.

is anyone using Windows
live Mail as a news reader?

Note that Windows Mail (in Vista) was essentially just the new version
of Outlook Express, with a new name. And Windows Live Mail was
essentially just a *newer* version of Outlook Express, with another
new name (and Microsoft once again did a poor job of choosing the two
names Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail, since many people confuse
them).

I've tried Windows Live Mail, but didn't like it. I think FortÊ Agent
is a *much* better newsreader.

My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server.

Three points here:

1. There are many *thousands* of newsgroups. Those that Microsoft
started were a very small percentage of what's available.

2. Microsoft has already stopped carrying many of its public
newsgroups, and they will stop the others soon.

3. A newsgroup doesn't disappear simply because Microsoft stops
carrying it. The Microsoft newsgroups (like most others) are echoed to
thousands of others all over the world. Usage may go down if Microsoft
stops, but the newsgroup don't disappear.

(Which will soon
be re-directed web based "forums")

The web-based forums already exist. However newsgroup traffic is *not*
automatically redirected to them.

Also bear in mind that there exists free downloadable NNTP Bridge
software, which enables you to participate in the Microsoft web forums
via a newsreader. I do 34 of those forums that way.
 
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Ken Blake

Microsoft's stupid move to web forums won't make any difference to me
either as I find all web forums slow and clumsy relative to NNTP
groups.

I agree that the move to forums was a mistake on their part.

But bear in mind that there exists free downloadable NNTP Bridge
software, which enables you to participate in the Microsoft web forums
via a newsreader. I do 34 of those forums that way.
 
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Ken Blake

MANY ISP's stopped carrying Usenet, even before
Microsoft's decision, but my ISP (Grande Communications, in San Marcos, TX)
still offers the full range of 100,000+ NGs - including mirrors of all those
that have been available on the Microsoft public news server
(msnews.microsoft.com). That server IS being closed by Microsoft, by
October 2010. It remains to be seen how many - and which - of those MS NGs
will continue on Usenet after the Microsoft "mother ship" closes.

RC, I'm sure you know this, but let me point out for Sunny, and for
others here, that there are other sources of newsgroups than our ISPs.

That are lots of other available news servers, some free, some for a
charge. Here are three free ones that I use:

aioe.org
news.eternal-september.org
news.albasani.net
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

I agree that the move to forums was a mistake on their part.

But bear in mind that there exists free downloadable NNTP Bridge
software, which enables you to participate in the Microsoft web forums
via a newsreader. I do 34 of those forums that way.
I use Community Bridge to read a few of the forums with Agent. That
works OK but doesn't solve the whole problem.

Steve
 
K

Ken Blake

I use Community Bridge to read a few of the forums with Agent. That
works OK but doesn't solve the whole problem.

Very true. There are lots of remaining problems. I only wanted to
point out that using the NNTP bridge made participation much better
and much faster (even though you apparently already knew that, others
here undoubtedly didn't).
 
Z

Zaidy036

For use on a "Netbook" ?
With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
live Mail as a news reader?
My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
be re-directed web based "forums")
Look at the free Gravity available from http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/
 
J

johnbee

Windows Live Mail works fine as a news reader. It has no restrictions and
looks and feels like the old Express. >

I am a very long way from thinking WLM is like Outlook Express. Reading
through messages by clicking on a list is extremely different from hovering
over a 'Next' button and clicking on it, and that is only for a start.

In case anyone thinks I am arguing for the sake of it, generally this topic
is a crucial one. I say that because ISPs seem to be dumping Usenet
services, they say because of lack of demand. It is already the case that
in order to access newsgroups one has to be pretty determined. Us users
ought to be very helpful and accurate of course but in particular to
prospective newsgroup users because we can be slightly instrumental in
delaying the inevitable end a little.

It is certainly true that WLM is OK as a news reader, in particular that it
is possible to set it up by trying hard, unlike most others which will
defeat many people. What I mean by that was that it was the only one I
managed to get working and I am not all that thick.
 
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LouB

Ken said:
I agree that the move to forums was a mistake on their part.

But bear in mind that there exists free downloadable NNTP Bridge
software, which enables you to participate in the Microsoft web forums
via a newsreader. I do 34 of those forums that way.
A link please
 
T

Tattoo Vampire

Sunny said:
Slightly less crippled in TB3.x than previous versions, but still poor
compared to most other newsreaders, doesn't stop me using it thou
XNews and 40tude Dialog are both free and offer much better filtering for
newsgroups, as well as article scoring.


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