Newreader question

[Hagar]

I'm contemplating upgrading to Windows 7 (using XP at the present) and I am
an avid News Group aficionado. I know that Windows 7 does not have Outlook
Express any longer, which had, in my opinion, a fine News Reader. I would
guess that Win 7 uses Outlook as its Email client ... the question is, is
there a NewsReader incorporated ???
I use Outlook at work, and there is a News Reader option, but it relies on
the Outlook Express version of Win XP.

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my options,
other than going with a decade old Forte Agent alternative.

TIA,

Sam Hagen

 

[Char Jackson]

I'm contemplating upgrading to Windows 7 (using XP at the present) and I am
an avid News Group aficionado. I know that Windows 7 does not have Outlook
Express any longer, which had, in my opinion, a fine News Reader.

If you thought OE was fine, prepare to be amazed. Almost every other
newsreader is miles ahead of OE.

I would guess that Win 7 uses Outlook as its Email client
... the question is, is there a NewsReader incorporated ???

No, Win 7 doesn't have an email client or newsreader bundled with the
OS so you'll need to add your own. Many of us see that as a good thing
because it opens up your options. Try as many as you like and decide
which is best for you.

Outlook is part of the Office suite, and is not included with the OS.

I use Outlook at work, and there is a News Reader option, but it relies on
the Outlook Express version of Win XP.

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my options,
other than going with a decade old Forte Agent alternative.

You can go with the current version of Agent, if you like, or you can
try as many other newsreaders as you like before settling on the
perfect one for you. The list of available newsreaders is long,
indeed. You don't have to wait until you get Win 7 to start checking
out other newsreaders, you can do it now. Happy hunting.

 

[FooAtari]

I'm contemplating upgrading to Windows 7 (using XP at the present) and I
am an avid News Group aficionado. I know that Windows 7 does not have
Outlook Express any longer, which had, in my opinion, a fine News
Reader. I would guess that Win 7 uses Outlook as its Email client ...
the question is, is there a NewsReader incorporated ???
I use Outlook at work, and there is a News Reader option, but it relies
on the Outlook Express version of Win XP.

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my options,
other than going with a decade old Forte Agent alternative.

TIA,

Sam Hagen

I beleive Windows 7 has Live Mail, or you can download live mail. This
'supports' news groups. But the current version, 15 I think, is terrible.
It can't even handle quotes properly so avoid using that.

I used to XNews on Windows. No idea if it's still developed.

 

[KCB]

I'm contemplating upgrading to Windows 7 (using XP at the present) and I
am an avid News Group aficionado. I know that Windows 7 does not have
Outlook Express any longer, which had, in my opinion, a fine News Reader.
I would guess that Win 7 uses Outlook as its Email client ... the question
is, is there a NewsReader incorporated ???
I use Outlook at work, and there is a News Reader option, but it relies on
the Outlook Express version of Win XP.

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my options,
other than going with a decade old Forte Agent alternative.

TIA,

Sam Hagen

Win7 has no news or mail client built-in. Windows Live Mail is one option,
although the latest version does not work properly with Usenet. You can
download a previous version (version 14 or 2009) that works very much like
Outlook Express. AFAIK, Outlook does not have any news capability.
Everyone is this group has their own opinion about which news reader is
best, but my advice is to try several, then pick what works for you.

 

[Alex Clayton]

I'm contemplating upgrading to Windows 7 (using XP at the present) and I am
an avid News Group aficionado. I know that Windows 7 does not have Outlook
Express any longer, which had, in my opinion, a fine News Reader. I would
guess that Win 7 uses Outlook as its Email client ... the question is, is
there a NewsReader incorporated ???
I use Outlook at work, and there is a News Reader option, but it relies on
the Outlook Express version of Win XP.

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my options,
other than going with a decade old Forte Agent alternative.

TIA,

Sam Hagen

Well good news bad news. The good, Win 7 is pretty easy to use. The bad,
OE is gone. You can get free the “new” MS version which does work fine
and is easy to use if you are used to OE. The down side is you will hear
a lot of bitching in some groups if you use the MS reader, Windows Live
Mail.
I don’t know if it’s just my feed, but WLM started screwing up for me
a while ago. No longer seems to be able to keep track of what I read,
did not read, and deleted. I have been playing with Mozzillas reader
Thunderbird. It seems to work fine, is free, and saves on a lot of
bitching from others, but it is quite different than OE. I recently
tried another one Xananews, and it is closer to OE. Both are free so you
can try them both and see if you like them.

 

[Sir_George]

I'm contemplating upgrading to Windows 7 (using XP at the present)
and I am an avid News Group aficionado. I know that Windows 7 does
not have Outlook Express any longer, which had, in my opinion, a fine
News Reader. I would guess that Win 7 uses Outlook as its Email
client ... the question is, is there a NewsReader incorporated ??? I
use Outlook at work, and there is a News Reader option, but it relies
on the Outlook Express version of Win XP.

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my
options, other than going with a decade old Forte Agent alternative.

TIA,

Sam Hagen

No newsreader is included in the OS. A good, free, newsreader is
XanaNews, not much mention of it anywhere, but I like it.

 

[relic]

I'm contemplating upgrading to Windows 7 (using XP at the present) and I
am an avid News Group aficionado. I know that Windows 7 does not have
Outlook Express any longer, which had, in my opinion, a fine News Reader.
I would guess that Win 7 uses Outlook as its Email client ... the question
is, is there a NewsReader incorporated ???
I use Outlook at work, and there is a News Reader option, but it relies on
the Outlook Express version of Win XP.

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my options,
other than going with a decade old Forte Agent alternative.

1. Windows Live 2009 (NOT 2011)
2. If you get Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate (not 'Home'), you can run
Outlook Express (hopefully, you use OE-Quotefix too) in XP Mode:
http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx

 

[Hagar]

I want to thank all of you for your prompt response.
Basically, Microsoft had a good Newsreader with OE (I'm very happy with it),
but they chose to screw up a good thing.

It almost sounds like I'd be better pff just sticking with XP.

Thanks again for your great responses.

Sam Hagen

 

[LouB]

I want to thank all of you for your prompt response.
Basically, Microsoft had a good Newsreader with OE (I'm very happy with it),
but they chose to screw up a good thing.

It almost sounds like I'd be better pff just sticking with XP.

Thanks again for your great responses.

Sam Hagen

Not so.

 

[Roy Smith]

I beleive Windows 7 has Live Mail, or you can download live mail. This
'supports' news groups. But the current version, 15 I think, is terrible.
It can't even handle quotes properly so avoid using that.

I used to XNews on Windows. No idea if it's still developed.

The standard installation of Windows 7 (all editions) does not come with
any email or news reader software. If you have a PC that came with
Windows Live Mail on it, then it was installed by the PC manufacturer.


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.9
Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:03:09 PM

 

[John Morrison]

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my options,
other than going with a decade old Forte Agent alternative.

Agent is more than a decade old but still serves me well.

 

[Roy Smith]

I want to thank all of you for your prompt response.
Basically, Microsoft had a good Newsreader with OE (I'm very happy with it),
but they chose to screw up a good thing.

It almost sounds like I'd be better pff just sticking with XP.

Well sooner or later you will have to move up to Windows 7 or whatever
is current at the time, after all your PC hardware won't last forever. ;-)


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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.9
Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:06:07 PM

 

[Tester]

after all your PC hardware won't last forever. ;-)

Why? He is already 96 and what made you say that he will live longer
than his PC?

 

[Bill Bradshaw]

And it works just fine. You can put a OE icon on your Windows 7 desktop
and when you click it will start XPMode and open OE. I still like OE
best.

<Bill>

 

[Char Jackson]

Agent is more than a decade old but still serves me well.

My version 2 is approaching a decade, but your version 6 is current.

 

[Char Jackson]

I want to thank all of you for your prompt response.
Basically, Microsoft had a good Newsreader with OE (I'm very happy with it),
but they chose to screw up a good thing.

It almost sounds like I'd be better pff just sticking with XP.

I still use XP on my main PC, so you wouldn't be the only one. I'm
running Windows 7 on a media server here and so far I see no reason to
upgrade the rest of my PCs. Win 7 is different, but not better, for
what I do.

 

[G. Morgan]

Agent is more than a decade old but still serves me well.

And one of the few in active development (although slow), the fact it has
thrived for a decade means something.

I see you take advantage of the newest version, as do I. I have not found a
better reader.

 

[jvalh]

And one of the few in active development (although slow), the fact it has
thrived for a decade means something.

I see you take advantage of the newest version, as do I. I have not found a
better reader.

I have been using Mozilla Thunderbird (and Firefox) for at least 5 years
and I am now using version TBird 2.0.0.24 and it works very well.

This one is 2.0.0.21:

http://download.cnet.com/Mozilla-Thunderbird/3000-2367_4-11014017.html

Alternatively, you can download a more recent version like 3.1.

If you know the Irish language (Gaelic) you can download a 3.1 version.
at:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/ga-IE/thunderbird/

All Thunderbird versions are very good for both emails and news lists.

Good luck.

 

[James Silverton]

I have been using Mozilla Thunderbird (and Firefox) for at least 5 years
and I am now using version TBird 2.0.0.24 and it works very well.

This one is 2.0.0.21:

http://download.cnet.com/Mozilla-Thunderbird/3000-2367_4-11014017.html

Alternatively, you can download a more recent version like 3.1.

If you know the Irish language (Gaelic) you can download a 3.1 version.
at:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/ga-IE/thunderbird/

All Thunderbird versions are very good for both emails and news lists.

Good luck.

I used to use Outlook Express gor mail and news groups but Windows Live
Mail is for the birds, IMO. I won't say that Thunderbird is "great" but,
as I become used to it, I like it more and more for email and
newsgroups. Learning it's peculiarities, despite Help? and support web
sites, takes time. As an inveterate mouser, I have resented having to
learn some keystrokes because of the number of mouse clicks needed to do
the same thing; "View all messages" is best done with ALT-vea. There are
also idiosyncratic choices of operations, for instance, "Mark all read"
is SHIFT-C but "Mark all unread" needs CTRL-c (select all) and the use
of the ALT-m toggle.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

"Not": obvious change in "Reply To"

 

[Maurice Batey]

If there is no Newsreader available in Win 7, what would be my
options,

Download/install Thunderbird from:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-GB/thunderbird/

It is free, and does both email & newsgroups

It also has an Import function which will make a good job of migrating
all your OE email/settimgs/address list.

The neatest way I found of doing the WinXp-W7 migration was:

On WinXP:

(1) Download/install Thunderbird from:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-GB/thunderbird/

(2) Start T'bird, and ask it to Import from OE

(3) Download/install Mozbak from:

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/download.php

(4) Use Mozbak to 'backup*' Thunderbird to e.g. a flash drive

(If you also have Firefox, it will also backup that)


On Win7:

(a) Download/install Mozbak from:

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/download.php


(b) Download/install Thunderbird from:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-GB/thunderbird/

(c) Get Mozbak to Restore Thunderbird from WinXP backup on flash drive.

Thunderbird is now all set up with all your OE emails/settings/
addressbook.
Just need to create newsgroup server accounts.

(Make sure you have made a note of your OE password(s)!)

The person I did this for didn't use newsgroups, but separately I've
set someone else up with Thunderbird for newsgroups on a Mac.