Malwarebytes "objects" ?

[Robin Bignall]

You want to steal his way of thinging? ;-)

You've got another thing coming!

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

You want to steal his way of thinging? ;-)

I object to that implication.

 

[Stan Brown]

When running Malwarebytes --if you're lucky enough to
have a free one ---those are no more

Are you daft?

The VERY FIRST hit on a search for "malwarebytes" is "Malwarebytes :
Free anti-malware download" from malwarebytes.org.

And one click from that page takes me to
http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/ with a big button to download
the free version.

 

[Stan Brown]

He's a troll. Trolls are always liars.

He was pretty good, as trolls go. I was deceived, until he slipped
up and lied about multiposting.

I agree with Juan Wei -- let's plonk that troll.

 

[John]

He was pretty good, as trolls go. I was deceived, until he slipped
up and lied about multiposting.

I agree with Juan Wei -- let's plonk that troll.

Awwww, poor widdle trollie. Folks, even scunnersome scammers can get
malware on their PC's so maybe a troll needs help, too?
Anyway, offering Pfsszxt advice and aid, succour and help will leave
the messages for other folks to read (like me, I've learned things
from Pfsszxt's threads, from you generous people who offer your time
and skills so freely to help your fellow beings, and from researching
his "problems" to see if they *could* be real, which many of them
could) and gives us valuable training in fault-finding,
customer-relations, web-researching, data-mining and other valuable
processes.
Besides, maybe even stinky trowling need babied every so often.
And maybe Pfsszxt is truly in need. He does come off rather like my
sister who asks for advice, ignores it completely, downloads a million
toolbars and wonders why her "Internet" is "broken". And that's when
she asks for help. She seems to be reluctant to apply what she learns,
but she's not stupid, just reluctant to admit the possibility that 30
years of experience in trouble-shooting trumps instinct and
spirituality every time.
Anyway, even if Pfsszxt is laughing his arse off at our attempts to
help what we see as a pathetic noob trying to understand technology
that is forever beyond him, what *harm* does he do? Apart from wasting
our time and efforts, which we could have spent on more deserving
people, I mean?
Well, that and possibly souring us to the idea of ever helping anyone
who *says* they are in trouble ever again in case they, too, are
stupid, small-souled trowling.
What I would really like is for him to load Belarc Advisor and PE
from SysInternals (Microsoft) and a couple of other diagnostic and
exploratory tools (HijackThis?) and to go online to use a few scanners
and for him to give us *USEFUL* information about the state of his
machine(s).
But then, I'd love my sister to read out an error panel *before* she
clicks on the damned thing, and I'd like to win a EuroMillions jackpot
and I would like an armed FTL starship to play with but none of those
will ever happen. Of the four, the FTL starship is probably the least
unlikely.
I'd say it's a toss-up between my sister or Pfsszxt giving useful
information and me getting multiple superpowers by eating a chicken
burger.
If Pfsszxt *is* genuine, he needs to slow down, take a step back,
*read* our replies, try to cope with at least some of the advice
therein and answer some of the bloody questions we ask him.
It's not rocket science. It's not even science of any sort. All he
has to do is describe what he sees, exactly, in the words used by the
messages onscreen. No interpretations, no translation, not thinking of
his own. Just "What I see is a blue box with yellow typing and the
typing says 'This function has generated an address error at 0x993jjt7
and will close', there is an 'okay' button and a 'continue' button at
the bottom."
It's *easier* to do that than to guess at what is happening. We just
have to train people like Pfsszxt and my sister (good luck with
*that*) how to do it. ("Just"? *My* sister? <screams of maniacal
laughter echoing in a dark, draughty castle>).
Pfsszxt, if you are genuine, help *us* to help *you*. Stop
everything. Do nothing. Just look at the box and tell us what you see.
Then we can try to help you.
Yes, folks, I know that won't work. It never did with my sister.
J.

 

[Ed Cryer]

Awwww, poor widdle trollie. Folks, even scunnersome scammers can get
malware on their PC's so maybe a troll needs help, too?
Anyway, offering Pfsszxt advice and aid, succour and help will leave
the messages for other folks to read (like me, I've learned things
from Pfsszxt's threads, from you generous people who offer your time
and skills so freely to help your fellow beings, and from researching
his "problems" to see if they *could* be real, which many of them
could) and gives us valuable training in fault-finding,
customer-relations, web-researching, data-mining and other valuable
processes.
Besides, maybe even stinky trowling need babied every so often.
And maybe Pfsszxt is truly in need. He does come off rather like my
sister who asks for advice, ignores it completely, downloads a million
toolbars and wonders why her "Internet" is "broken". And that's when
she asks for help. She seems to be reluctant to apply what she learns,
but she's not stupid, just reluctant to admit the possibility that 30
years of experience in trouble-shooting trumps instinct and
spirituality every time.
Anyway, even if Pfsszxt is laughing his arse off at our attempts to
help what we see as a pathetic noob trying to understand technology
that is forever beyond him, what *harm* does he do? Apart from wasting
our time and efforts, which we could have spent on more deserving
people, I mean?
Well, that and possibly souring us to the idea of ever helping anyone
who *says* they are in trouble ever again in case they, too, are
stupid, small-souled trowling.
What I would really like is for him to load Belarc Advisor and PE
from SysInternals (Microsoft) and a couple of other diagnostic and
exploratory tools (HijackThis?) and to go online to use a few scanners
and for him to give us *USEFUL* information about the state of his
machine(s).
But then, I'd love my sister to read out an error panel *before* she
clicks on the damned thing, and I'd like to win a EuroMillions jackpot
and I would like an armed FTL starship to play with but none of those
will ever happen. Of the four, the FTL starship is probably the least
unlikely.
I'd say it's a toss-up between my sister or Pfsszxt giving useful
information and me getting multiple superpowers by eating a chicken
burger.
If Pfsszxt *is* genuine, he needs to slow down, take a step back,
*read* our replies, try to cope with at least some of the advice
therein and answer some of the bloody questions we ask him.
It's not rocket science. It's not even science of any sort. All he
has to do is describe what he sees, exactly, in the words used by the
messages onscreen. No interpretations, no translation, not thinking of
his own. Just "What I see is a blue box with yellow typing and the
typing says 'This function has generated an address error at 0x993jjt7
and will close', there is an 'okay' button and a 'continue' button at
the bottom."
It's *easier* to do that than to guess at what is happening. We just
have to train people like Pfsszxt and my sister (good luck with
*that*) how to do it. ("Just"? *My* sister? <screams of maniacal
laughter echoing in a dark, draughty castle>).
Pfsszxt, if you are genuine, help *us* to help *you*. Stop
everything. Do nothing. Just look at the box and tell us what you see.
Then we can try to help you.
Yes, folks, I know that won't work. It never did with my sister.
J.

I've got a sister like that, and I love her dearly; and for that reason
over the years I've spent hours and hours sorting out her computer
problems. She's not dumb; she just has a blind-spot when it comes to IT,
and her panicking efforts seem to pull her further into the quicksand.
It could be that Pfsszxt is like that. In which case he deserves our help.

But (big but here) he bears an uncommon resemblance to a troll we had
here about three years ago; Valorie. He pours in posts by the dozens,
seems to be trying and trying, hits every problem in the book, and never
gets it sorted. It's a power thing; like when people put in forgeries to
get a laugh at the Royal Academy. And remember that the forger of
Piltdown Man has never been found.

AS you say, though, he's been found out over multi-posting.

Ed

 

[John]

Are you daft?

The VERY FIRST hit on a search for "malwarebytes" is "Malwarebytes :
Free anti-malware download" from malwarebytes.org.

It is on my Firefox search with Google, too. Indeed, I have to go to
the very bottom of the second page before I find an advert that even
looks iffy. "Softango.com" may even be legit, so that makes finding a
rogue MBAM pretty much deliberate.
http://www.webutation.net/go/review/softango.com suggests Softango is
a legitimate site, so page three before I have a chance to find bad
guys.
Pfsszxt is persistent and a hard worker.

And one click from that page takes me to
http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/ with a big button to download
the free version.

Well, I've sent Pfsszxt the linkie to the homepage and the download
site anyway. Also the product page incase he decides to buy or try the
Pro version.
The Pro version will work perfect for a few weeks. It will even clean
up stuff. It just has a time-limit after which it stops working
properly.
If Pfsszxt were serious, he'd buy the Pro versions of a few things.
Firewall, AV, anti-spyware maybe even anti-adware. He may prefer to
get them all in one suite from someone like Kaspersky or <shudder>
Norton.
Maybe he needs some back-up software, a recovery program just in case
he goofs again and a sandbox?
Or, better yet, a professional to set up his machines for him and
create a very limited user account for him.
J.

 

[FromTheRafters]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:56:26 +0100

[...]

You're answering his statement and ignoring his question.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

But (big but here) he bears an uncommon resemblance to a troll we had
here about three years ago; Valorie.

But I especially liked this remark from John's post:

"Anyway, offering Pfsszxt advice and aid, succour and help will leave
the messages for other folks to read (like me, I've learned things
from Pfsszxt's threads, from you generous people who offer your time
and skills so freely to help your fellow beings, and from researching
his "problems" to see if they *could* be real, which many of them
could) and gives us valuable training in fault-finding,
customer-relations, web-researching, data-mining and other valuable
processes."

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:56:26 +0100

[...]

You're answering his statement and ignoring his question.

The question has already been adequately dealt with upthread.

 

[FromTheRafters]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:56:26 +0100

[...]

The VERY FIRST hit on a search for "malwarebytes" is "Malwarebytes :
Free anti-malware download" from malwarebytes.org.

You're answering his statement and ignoring his question.

The question has already been adequately dealt with upthread.

I doubt that any satisfactory answer has been proffered. For instance
the answers given wouldn't explain how a directory with 100 files might
be scanned and MBAM might state that 124 objects were found to contain
signatures for known malware.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:56:26 +0100

[...]

The VERY FIRST hit on a search for "malwarebytes" is "Malwarebytes :
Free anti-malware download" from malwarebytes.org.

You're answering his statement and ignoring his question.

The question has already been adequately dealt with upthread.

I doubt that any satisfactory answer has been proffered. For instance
the answers given wouldn't explain how a directory with 100 files might
be scanned and MBAM might state that 124 objects were found to contain
signatures for known malware.

I was satisfied with the answers given.