Is there any way to use Outlook Express with WIN7?

S

SliqM

You've gotta be kidding me. One of the most prominent software
producers in the world, and they couldn't make OE available for
download? Or, alternately, releasing an OE 7?

I've been really tolerant of MS up to this point, but now they're
really starting to get to me.

Yet another reason to stay with XP for now.

Regards.
Use Mozilla Thunderbird, it has the same look and feel as OE.
 
C

Char Jackson

I've never attempted to use it as a newsreader, but I've been
using it for several years as an e-mail client only (since I dropped
Eudora), and I've really never had a single problem with it. What
aspect of it disappointed you?
Its shortcomings are well documented. I don't plan to go into it in
detail.
Enjoy the day.
Likewise!
 
W

...winston

"Nil" wrote in message
"This point" was 3 or 4 years ago when OE was discontinued.
And you're just now complaining about it? I guess I shouldn't
be surprised, since you're replying to a two-year-old post.
For historical accuracy --> OE development ceased almost 6 yrs ago (2006)
 
K

KXKVI

Check out the add on called Lightening. It will give your Thunderbird
install a calendar and tasks.
Cool. I may have a good use for that.

Thanks!
 
E

Evil Penguin

Its shortcomings are well documented. I don't plan to go into it in
detail.
Fair enough, and yes.. they are well documented. And come to
think of it.. it does give me some very rare trouble with digitally
signed messages. Easy enough to disregard, though.

Be well.
 
W

...winston

"Mortimer" wrote in message
I prefer the one file per message filesystem of Windows Mail and Windows
Live Mail, with a separate directory for each email folder. The only
disadvantage is that it takes much longer to search for messages that
contain chosen text, presumably because it is opening lots of files rather
than one big one. Even OE's approach of one file per email folder is a
dramatic improvement over Outlook's approach of one (PST) file for all email
folders: if that gets corrupted it's a long job to recoverd from a backup -
if you've got a recent one.


==
Fyi
1. Separate folders for Email accounts in OE was rather common as a feedback
request (including before and after WebDav was discontinued).
2. Outlook 2010 provides the ability to create/use separate pst files for
each configured email account (or choose the default or an existing)
 
B

blank

Slightly OT but relevant to whether it's always good to follow Micro$oft...

They created Visual Basic and developed and honed it until version 6. It is
a brilliant language with a great integrated design environment. Then a few
years ago they ditched it and replaced it with 'dot.net' which claims to be
Visual Basic. Amngst other things it has no sensible printer support and is
thus unusable for business applications. BTW, millions of vb6 developers
are now marooned, as dot.net is not compatible. And don't get me started on
Windows 8!.
 
S

southwalker

It may not seem like it right now, but Microsoft is doing you a favor
by taking OE off the table. It really wasn't very good at what it
does. Move on and make OE a distant memory.
I used OE for many years and never had a problem. I would love to have
it back.

I did not use it as a news reader.
 
E

Evil Penguin

I used OE for many years and never had a problem. I would love to have
it back.
If you liked OE, you might also like Postbox Express (freeware).
It runs under XP, Vista, and Win 7.

http://www.postbox-inc.com/?/blog/entry/introducing_postbox_express_1.0/

I've been test driving this along with Thunderbird. While Thunderbird
is definitely more powerful and feature rich, I like the user
interface a little better in Postbox Express. If you're looking for
simplicity, this might be a good fit for you.

Regards.
 
J

Jeff

I used OE for many years and never had a problem. I would love to have
it back.

I did not use it as a news reader.
I agree. I currently use TB but for the huge numbers of users (like my
wife and a couple of elderly neighbors I help with their computers) OE
is all they ever needed. When they buy a new PC because the old one has
gotten too slow and the new PC comes with W 7 Home Premium, the last
thing they want to do is learn a new mail agent. OE does the job just
fine for the millions of PC users who are not techies and just receive
and send simple emails. Most do not even subscribe to newslists unless
they come as email digests. OE is perfect for them. Even running OE in
an XP emulations is too big a hassle for almost all of them.

Microsoft certainly did not do these users - who vastly outnumber the
techies and nerds - any favors by making OE incompatible with W 7. These
users do not even know where to ask questions unless they hjave a
friendly neighbor (or a 7 year old grandson ....)

Jeff
 
J

Jeff

Windows Live Mail is more similar to OE than TB. It sucks for newsgroups
but for email I hear it's all right.
Thanks. But it is still teaching those technophobes a new tool.
 
W

Walt

Windows Live Mail is more similar to OE than TB. It sucks for newsgroups
but for email I hear it's all right.
I agree with Jeff. I also happen to be one of the neighbors who is
somewhat computer literate. OE is a SIMPLE, easy to use, mail program
that works. I never had any problem with it in all the time I used it
and neither did my neighbors. Windows Live Mail is to big and to
complicated, and hard to use. I have Vista and use Windows Mail. My
wive has Windows 7 and uses Windows Live Mail and and is always
complaining about it. She never had a problem with OE or Windows Mail.
IMHO MS really screwed up when they stopped using OE and Windows Mail.
They left a lot of older users out in the cold.
 
P

Prisca

I agree with Jeff. I also happen to be one of the neighbors who is
somewhat computer literate. OE is a SIMPLE, easy to use, mail program
that works. I never had any problem with it in all the time I used it
and neither did my neighbors. Windows Live Mail is to big and to
complicated, and hard to use. I have Vista and use Windows Mail. My
wive has Windows 7 and uses Windows Live Mail and and is always
complaining about it. She never had a problem with OE or Windows Mail.
IMHO MS really screwed up when they stopped using OE and Windows Mail.
They left a lot of older users out in the cold.
Not only older users. My other half is totally blind and uses a screen
reader, as do many others in the blind community that I help out with
computer problems. OE was simple to use with key strokes and short cuts,
even if it was basic. Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail don't work too
well with screen readers, Outlook is too bulky with far more features
than any of them need - always assuming they can afford to pay for it on
limited budgets. Thunderbird sort of works, but takes a lot of
re-learning and some of the key strokes don't work as well as they
should do, and is overall a lot less convenient.

I did manage to find a freeware email client called Postbox Express,
which is no longer supported, which my husband is now using. It's based
on Mozilla, so has similarities to Thunderbird but works more like OE.
The full Postbox version is a paid for client, and has lots of bells and
whistles which are completely useless to people with little or no
vision. It's a shame the express version is no longer supported as it
works well as an OE replacement. It can be found here, if anyone is
interested. http://www.postbox-inc.com/express_features. There is also a
start up guide here http://www.postbox-inc.com/tutorial_express/index.

Regards
Prisca
 
R

Redjak

"Alias" wrote in message
I agree. I currently use TB but for the huge numbers of users (like
my
wife and a couple of elderly neighbors I help with their computers)
OE
is all they ever needed. When they buy a new PC because the old one
has
gotten too slow and the new PC comes with W 7 Home Premium, the last
thing they want to do is learn a new mail agent. OE does the job
just
fine for the millions of PC users who are not techies and just
receive
and send simple emails. Most do not even subscribe to newslists
unless
they come as email digests. OE is perfect for them. Even running OE
in
an XP emulations is too big a hassle for almost all of them.

Microsoft certainly did not do these users - who vastly outnumber
the
techies and nerds - any favors by making OE incompatible with W 7.
These
users do not even know where to ask questions unless they hjave a
friendly neighbor (or a 7 year old grandson ....)

Jeff
Windows Live Mail is more similar to OE than TB. It sucks for
newsgroups but for email I hear it's all right.
That’s what I find. Also, I don't like that there is no "do not
download from server" option for blocked senders.

Also - I have been using Outlook - and it seems to work great also.
 
K

kraut / larry stark

I agree. I currently use TB but for the huge numbers of users (like my
wife and a couple of elderly neighbors I help with their computers) OE
is all they ever needed. When they buy a new PC because the old one has
gotten too slow and the new PC comes with W 7 Home Premium, the last
thing they want to do is learn a new mail agent. OE does the job just
fine for the millions of PC users who are not techies and just receive
and send simple emails. Most do not even subscribe to newslists unless
they come as email digests. OE is perfect for them. Even running OE in
an XP emulations is too big a hassle for almost all of them.

Microsoft certainly did not do these users - who vastly outnumber the
techies and nerds - any favors by making OE incompatible with W 7. These
users do not even know where to ask questions unless they hjave a
friendly neighbor (or a 7 year old grandson ....)

Jeff

Outlook Express 6.0

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/E-mail/E-mail-Clients/Outlook-Express.shtml
 
X

XS11E

Walt said:
OE is a SIMPLE, easy to use, mail program that works.
No, it doesn't work, it's as far from GNKSA as it's possible to be.
I never had any problem with it
No but most everyone receiving your emails has/had problems. You're
like the folks using the horrid AOL client and wondering why your
friends have all blocked your emails.
 

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