is Outlook free on new Win7 machines

M

MikeS

And the answer is no, since you have to download and install Windows Live
Mail. :p
My buddy bought a Win7 box and is getting the latest version of Office,
so now we can get to learn how to import his contact lists and messages.

Thank you to everyone who posted,
 
J

John Ferrell

My buddy bought a Win7 box and is getting the latest version of Office,
so now we can get to learn how to import his contact lists and messages.

Thank you to everyone who posted,
Thunderbird is great for those of us who have big files of messages
stored. It is what Outlook Express should have become. It imports
everything from OE except the message filters and most folks probably
need to freshen those up anyway... Win 7 looks like a winner to me, I
just have to get intimate with it!
John Ferrell W8CCW
 
P

Peter Foldes

In Outlook (OL) it is Archiving
In Outlook Express(OE) it is Compacting

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
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LouB

Ken said:
Agent_C said:
A friend of mine has a dying XP machine and he's considering what to
buy. If he buys a new Win7 box will Outlook come with it, or will he
have to purchase Office to get it?
If you're referring to Outlook [Express]; essentially yes, it's still
free, but it's now called Windows Live Mail.

It doesn't come packaged with W7, it's a separate free download.

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-mail

A_C
Windows Live Mail is not Outlook Express renamed. Even though the look is
similar, it's an entirely different program.


In one sense, you are right of course. But in another sense, it's not
*renamed* Outlook Express, but it is a later version of Outlook
Express. Windows Mail was a later version, and now Windows Live Mail
is a still later version.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Your reply is why I look for your answers:))

A lurker.
 
K

Ken Blake

Ken Blake wrote:

Your reply is why I look for your answers:))

Thanks for the kind words.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
 
G

Gordon

Gerry Atricks said:
You really are an asshole.
Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or browser when
I've already got one?"
If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they want or
whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird definition of
"choice"...
 
S

SC Tom

Gordon said:
Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or browser
when I've already got one?"
If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they want or
whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird definition of
"choice"...
It's still choosing. If I choose to stay with what came with the system
instead of looking around, it's still a choice :)
I tried other mail and news clients, both MS and non-MS, besides OE, and
ended up coming back to it because I liked it best.
When I went from Vista to 7, I tried other clients also, but went with WLM.
There were others that were near as good, but I stayed with WLM since I was
comfortable with it. It's not the "spiffiest" looking kid on the block, but
works well and has all I need in one spot.
Same story with browsers. I tried others, but chose to come back to IE. The
only one I would have stayed with (if it was still around) other than IE was
Netscape Navigator. Does that mean I had no choice in choosing what I want?
Not in my book. . .
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Gordon said:
Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or
browser when I've already got one?"
If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they
want or whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird
definition of "choice"...
In the words of a band I used to listen to, "If you choose not to
decide you still have made a choice!" (Freewill by Rush, on the
Permanent Waves album released 1980)

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.
 
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LouB

Ken said:
Thanks for the kind words.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
There is so damn much idiocy in newsgroups I have all but given up.
That said, which if any forums do you like?

Lou
 
K

Ken Blake

There is so damn much idiocy in newsgroups I have all but given up.
That said, which if any forums do you like?

They are all pretty much the same. They have their severe
weaknesses--mostly different weaknesses from the newsgroups, but still
present.

I do Microsoft forums using their nntp bridge software, which lets me
participate with a newsreader, rather than on the web. That has its
advantages and disadvantages, for it works much better than IE for me,
since it's much faster.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
 
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LouB

Ken said:
They are all pretty much the same. They have their severe
weaknesses--mostly different weaknesses from the newsgroups, but still
present.

I do Microsoft forums using their nntp bridge software, which lets me
participate with a newsreader, rather than on the web. That has its
advantages and disadvantages, for it works much better than IE for me,
since it's much faster.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
I can not resist... Tried Chrome??

Lou
 
K

Ken Blake

I can not resist... Tried Chrome??

No, I have no interest in it. Why do you ask?

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
 
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LouB

Ken said:
No, I have no interest in it. Why do you ask?

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Well I figured as an MVP you had not (note the way I worded the
question), but I have used IE, FF and Chrome and I now really like
Chrome. It's fast and less subject to malware attempts.

Lou
 
K

Ken Blake

Well I figured as an MVP you had not (note the way I worded the
question), but I have used IE, FF and Chrome and I now really like
Chrome. It's fast and less subject to malware attempts.


You mean because it's not a Microsoft product? I don't make my
decisions that way. I choose my products based on my personal views of
what suits me the best. Although I use many Microsoft products, many
others are competitive products.

For example, I use

- WordPerfect in preference to Word

- Quicken in preference to Microsoft Money (even back when
Microsoft was still producing Money.

- Forté Agent in preference to Outlook Express, Windows Mail, or
Windows Live Mail

- Maxthon in preference to IE.


Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
 
K

Ken Blake

Isn't Maxthon just a front end to the IE engine?

Technically, yes, but it changes the interface almost completely, and
adds many wonderful features. In my view, the result makes it the best
browser on the market (at least the best one I've tried.) I like it
much better than Firefox, for example.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
 
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LouB

Ken said:
You mean because it's not a Microsoft product? I don't make my
decisions that way. I choose my products based on my personal views of
what suits me the best. Although I use many Microsoft products, many
others are competitive products.

For example, I use

- WordPerfect in preference to Word

- Quicken in preference to Microsoft Money (even back when
Microsoft was still producing Money.

- Forté Agent in preference to Outlook Express, Windows Mail, or
Windows Live Mail

- Maxthon in preference to IE.


Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Thank you:))
 
J

johnbee

LouB said:
Thank you:))
It is quite a good idea to have more than one web browser. My reason for
saying that is because when accessing a web page, and finding that error
messages, or worse, are generated, the simplest way to find out whether the
page has faults is to try it with another browser. In doing this, it is
sensible to leave the second browser settings as the defaults. If the
second browser works, of course that is a dead giveaway that your browsers
settings will not allow the page to display properly.
 

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