Internet Explorer 9

[Emrys Davies]

I have Win 7 Home Premium and WLM

I have the opportunity to install IE 9. Is it beneficial and straight
forward?

 

[Drew]

I have Win 7 Home Premium and WLM

I have the opportunity to install IE 9. Is it beneficial and straight
forward?

I installed IE9 about a month ago on my win7 pro system and have had no
problems whatsoever either installing or using it. Just my 3 cents.

 

[xxxx xxxx]

I installed IE9 about a month ago on my win7 pro system and have had no
problems whatsoever either installing or using it. Just my 3 cents.

i installed it , then removed it . here's what and why .

win vista 64 bit laptop
mail program that came with it
also installed win live mail 2009 (peeps said newer version sucked)

everything works , specifically win mail and newsgroups . downloading
binaries i can view and save the attachments , worked for years. also
wlm worked

i then installed ie 9

could no longer save attachments, the choice to allow is ticked ok
but menu choice is grayed out . at first i thought i may have enabled
some security setting that i had not used before , after fishing around
many menus i gave up .

uninstalled ie 9

everything works as it did before installation . NO IE 9 FOR ME
i despise misbehaving software , it was like when you get a trial
disk for aol that dam stuff takes over makes itself the default
mail / browser takes allot of time to set it right , and then when i
canceled the Free 100 hours they billed me for a months use.

but i digress

 

[Fred]

I have Win 7 Home Premium and WLM

I have the opportunity to install IE 9. Is it beneficial and straight
forward?

Ireally like IE 9; particularly the feature of being able to drag
favourite websites to task bar. Ideal for likes of your local phone
directory and sites you visit frequently - and particularly brilliant
for web-mail such as hotmail,gmail etc. There's really no point in using
your ISP email address and a mail reader e.g. WLM, thunderbird etc.
anymore. Quicker to use your favourite freebie webmail and drag to task
bar.

 

[Stewart]

Can you please tell me how you removed it? I have looked in control panel
but not there. I know I could just take it from the program folder and put
it in the bin but do not think that is the best way to remove a program.
I want to go back to IE 8 as the bbc iplayer and some others do not work so
well with IE 9.
Thank you

 

[Bob I]

Go to Control Panel, Programs and Features, Turn Windows features on or off.

 

[Gordon]

Go to Control Panel, Programs and Features, Turn Windows features on or
off.

That removes ACCESS to whatever version of IE is being used - it does
NOT uninstall IE9 and return the system to IE8.

 

[Gordon]

Can you please tell me how you removed it? I have looked in control
panel but not there.

When in Control panel-Uninstall a program, click on View Installed
Updates in the L/H pane. Scroll down to Windows Internet Explorer 9,
highlight it and an Uninstall option will appear on the toolbar.

 

[Stewart]

Thank you, that worked. I am now back using IE 8 and BBC IPlayer working
perfectly.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

When in Control panel-Uninstall a program, click on View Installed
Updates in the L/H pane. Scroll down to Windows Internet Explorer 9,
highlight it and an Uninstall option will appear on the toolbar.

I just did that, and I lost IE altogether. No IE 8, IE 7, or IE anything.
I had to restore the system restore point to get IE9 back. I am running
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1.

 

[xxxx xxxx]

When in Control panel-Uninstall a program, click on View Installed Updates
in the L/H pane. Scroll down to Windows Internet Explorer 9, highlight it
and an Uninstall option will appear on the toolbar.

this is how i removed it as well , it just reverted to my old browser i.e. i
guess.
as to later posts saying uninstall removed the older browser , i.e. 8 or 7 .

i wonder if someone has a link to older ms browsers ?

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

this is how i removed it as well , it just reverted to my old browser
i.e. i guess.
as to later posts saying uninstall removed the older browser , i.e. 8 or
7 .

i wonder if someone has a link to older ms browsers ?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/downloads/ie

 

[Alex Clayton]

I just did that, and I lost IE altogether. No IE 8, IE 7, or IE anything.
I had to restore the system restore point to get IE9 back. I am running
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1.

This happened to one of my instructors. She took IE9 then found out it
was not yet working with Angel so she deleted it. She said then there
was no Windows browser. She had Firefox and that worked. I told her to
look at MS and download it (IE 8) again. Looking at their site it seems
to be there? Just out of curiosity if someone does this and they don't
have another browser like FF on the system what they hell would they do
to put something back? Would you have to get it on a USB or such?

 

[Char Jackson]

This happened to one of my instructors. She took IE9 then found out it
was not yet working with Angel so she deleted it. She said then there
was no Windows browser. She had Firefox and that worked. I told her to
look at MS and download it (IE 8) again. Looking at their site it seems
to be there? Just out of curiosity if someone does this and they don't
have another browser like FF on the system what they hell would they do
to put something back? Would you have to get it on a USB or such?

I suspect the problem was with this part: "so she deleted it". The
devil is in the details, of course.

As for how to get a browser when you don't have any, the easiest way
might be to use a second computer to download it. These days, doesn't
everyone have (or at least have access to) multiple computers?

 

[Alex Clayton]

I suspect the problem was with this part: "so she deleted it". The
devil is in the details, of course.

No doubt. I did not bother to ask her how she "deleted" it. Since it was
on a desk top at home not a lap top she had with her I could not see it.
I had never tried to remove IE, did not know you could. I thought it was
just part of the OS. Since I tried Linux I almost never use it myself
(IE), got so used to FF. After I downloaded the latest version of it 4,
the first thing I saw when I went to my Angel account was a big warning
about how it would not work yet. It has a link showing how to remove
either IE -9 or FF 4 but FF seems to be working fine so I did not bother
to look. I assume the instructor must have clicked the link to remove
IE9. Maybe she did not follow the instructions right or they just have
it wrong. It says it will show you how to remove 9 and go back to 8. My
wife used IE so I suppose I should look at it in case she starts having
trouble after taking 9.

As for how to get a browser when you don't have any, the easiest way
might be to use a second computer to download it. These days, doesn't
everyone have (or at least have access to) multiple computers?

Seems so, it was just idle curiosity on my part. Like I said I never
knew you could remove IE, so with the warning on Angle I was figuring
someone at school was probably going to do the same thing she did, but
not have another browser already there to fall back to.

 

[Paul]

I suspect the problem was with this part: "so she deleted it". The
devil is in the details, of course.

As for how to get a browser when you don't have any, the easiest way
might be to use a second computer to download it. These days, doesn't
everyone have (or at least have access to) multiple computers?

All you need is an FTP address of the browser download, and do it from a
command window. Most OSes come with an FTP client, which can be run from
the command line, and starts an FTP interactive session. You "cd" down
the directory tree on the site, "dir" to list directories, "binary" to
switch to binary transfer mode, "get" to get the file (using quotes
perhaps, to handle the spaces in the file name), and so on.

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6.16/win32/en-US/Firefox Setup 3.6.16.exe

If you needed a particular older version of Firefox, you could get it there.

If you're "trapped" in an environment without a GUI (Linux command line without
X windows), the browser then is Lynx. No graphics are possible, and page
navigation is a mess. But in emergencies, you use what you can get. I
used to use Lynx at work years ago, in the "dark times".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)

http://www.jim.spath.com/lynx_win32/ftp.html

In Gentoo, they offer "links" as a replacement for Lynx. And it can
be part of your install sequence, before a GUI is available.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5

If Microsoft offered standalone installers for everything, then it would
be easier to dig up copies using ancient methods like that.

I "made" a standalone installer for IE6, using a method from the web, and if
installing an older OS, I can use that folder full of stuff, to put
back IE6. I have the folder "IE6SP1_Complete_For_Win2K_and_XP" but
I've lost the recipe. It's based on saving the files that the network
based installer downloads, and storing the files for a rainy day when
IE6 no longer works. The log file the network installer keeps, keeps
references to where it got the files, such as this. This is undoubtedly
broken by now (there is no reason for these links to be valid any more).

http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_sp1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US//BRANDING.CAB
http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_sp1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US//MAILNEWS.CAB
....

Paul

 

[Char Jackson]

All you need is an FTP address of the browser download, and do it from a
command window. Most OSes come with an FTP client, which can be run from
the command line, and starts an FTP interactive session.

FTP (either from a command prompt or GUI) is fine for you, me, and
perhaps most of the people who hang out here in this group, but for
the great unwashed masses out there I suspect it's a bit over their
heads, or at least they probably think it is and therefore won't go
near it. That's why I say a second computer is probably a better bet.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

All you need is an FTP address of the browser download, and do it from a
command window. Most OSes come with an FTP client, which can be run from
the command line, and starts an FTP interactive session.

[/QUOTE]

FTP (either from a command prompt or GUI) is fine for you, me, and
perhaps most of the people who hang out here in this group, but for
the great unwashed masses out there I suspect it's a bit over their
heads, or at least they probably think it is and therefore won't go
near it. That's why I say a second computer is probably a better bet.

Even for some of the washed.

I have used a GUI FTP client for so long that I don't think I could use
a command-line FTP.

Of course that's not really true, but I'd have to spend a lot of time
looking at help (no man pages, I'm on Windows).

 

[Alex Clayton]

FTP (either from a command prompt or GUI) is fine for you, me, and
perhaps most of the people who hang out here in this group, but for
the great unwashed masses out there I suspect it's a bit over their
heads, or at least they probably think it is and therefore won't go
near it. That's why I say a second computer is probably a better bet.

That would be me alright, great unwashed. I had zero idea of how to do
what he was suggesting and doubt I would even try. I would be scared
that I would make a bad situation worse. This is why a couple times when
I had something FUBAR'd on a machine I would just use the restore to put
it back to factory. I know it is most likely every time I have done this
that there would have been a less drastic "fix", but I know this works.
When people start talking geek to me and telling me how simple it is all
I can think is no way. It was like that when Vista came out and my first
experience with it left such a bad taste in my mouth. I did not know at
the time that the problem was the machine I was setting up, not the OS.
So I tried Linux on an old desktop. Figured if it worked I was going to
try it on my laptop. I was assured it was so easy so I got a CD. It did
seem to work fine running it off the CD but slow. So I tried to install
it as a dual boot using a Partitioning software. I was told it was a
snap. I am sure it is for many. I made such a mess I had to use the
recovery discs on the machine. It would no longer even boot. Thankfully
I was talked into trying another Vista machine with the power needed to
run it. I was just about to order a laptop that had Linux factory installed.

 

[Paul]

That would be me alright, great unwashed. I had zero idea of how to do
what he was suggesting and doubt I would even try. I would be scared
that I would make a bad situation worse. This is why a couple times when
I had something FUBAR'd on a machine I would just use the restore to put
it back to factory. I know it is most likely every time I have done this
that there would have been a less drastic "fix", but I know this works.
When people start talking geek to me and telling me how simple it is all
I can think is no way. It was like that when Vista came out and my first
experience with it left such a bad taste in my mouth. I did not know at
the time that the problem was the machine I was setting up, not the OS.
So I tried Linux on an old desktop. Figured if it worked I was going to
try it on my laptop. I was assured it was so easy so I got a CD. It did
seem to work fine running it off the CD but slow. So I tried to install
it as a dual boot using a Partitioning software. I was told it was a
snap. I am sure it is for many. I made such a mess I had to use the
recovery discs on the machine. It would no longer even boot. Thankfully
I was talked into trying another Vista machine with the power needed to
run it. I was just about to order a laptop that had Linux factory
installed.

You guys crack me up

I think it all depends on how badly you wanted something, as to
what effort you'd put into it.

I have posted an entire FTP transaction, to help someone get
something they were looking for. It isn't that big a deal to
copy and paste an entire session from a cmd window. All a person
would have to do, is ask.

******* started an MSDOS (cmd) window, to do some FTP *******

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\MyUserName> cd \ <--- change directory command, to pick
a place to store the FTP file
to be transferred.

C:\>cd Downloads <--- Saved file ends up in C:\Downloads

C:\Downloads> ftp ftp.mozilla.org <--- launching the ftp interactive session

Connected to ftp.zlb-ftp.sj.mozilla.com.
220-
220- ftp.mozilla.org / archive.mozilla.org - files are in /pub/mozilla.org
220-
220- Notice: This server is the only place to obtain nightly builds and needs to
220- remain available to developers and testers. High bandwidth servers that
220- contain the public release files are available at ftp://releases.mozilla.org/
220- If you need to link to a public release, please link to the release server,
220- not here. Thanks!
220-
220- Attempts to download high traffic release files from this server will get a
220- "550 Permission denied." response.
220
User (ftp.zlb-ftp.sj.mozilla.comnone)): anonymous <--- enter account name.
"Anonymous" works if server
supports anonymous FTP,
common on public servers.
331 Please specify the password.

Password: (e-mail address removed) <--- It used to be polite to leave your real
email address, but the server won't necessarily
be checking this thoroughly. On at least one
public server, they really do check this and
go the extra mile, just to be annoying... YMMV
230-
230- ftp.mozilla.org / archive.mozilla.org - files are
230- in /pub/mozilla.org
230-
230- Notice: This server is the only place to obtain
230- nightly builds and needs to remain available to
230- developers and testers. High bandwidth servers that
230- contain the public release files are available at
230- ftp://releases.mozilla.org/
230-
230- If you need to link to a public release, please link
230- to the release server, not here. Thanks!
230-
230- Attempts to download high traffic release files from
230- this server will get a "550 Permission denied." response.
230-
230 Login successful.

ftp> cd /pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6.16/win32/en-US <--- You can also do this
cd /pub
cd mozilla.org
cd firefox
cd releases
cd 3.6.16
cd win32
cd en-US
if you want, but I know
where I'm going. Call it
cheating.

250 Directory successfully changed.

ftp> dir <--- Use this to list the remote
directory. Two files found.
We want the .exe one.

200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Here comes the directory listing.
-rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 8579448 Mar 19 16:27 Firefox Setup 3.6.16.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 ftp ftp 194 Mar 19 17:32 Firefox Setup 3.6.16.exe.asc
226 Directory send OK.
ftp: 168 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 168000.00Kbytes/sec.

ftp> binary <---- binary mode, when transferring
most non-text stuff (ZIP, exe, jpeg...)
200 Switching to Binary mode.

ftp> get "Firefox Setup 3.6.16.exe" <--- use double quotes,
if a path has spaces in it.

200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for Firefox Setup 3.6.16.exe (8579448 by
tes).
226 File send OK.
ftp: 8579448 bytes received in 29.58 Seconds 290.06 Kbytes/sec. <--- be patient,
watch your modem
light flashing.
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye. <--- interactive session ends, back to good ole MSDOS commands...

C:\Downloads> dir Firefox* <---- checking the file arrived OK

Volume in drive C is WINXP
Directory of C:\Downloads

04/24/2011 10:53 PM 8,579,448 Firefox Setup 3.6.16.exe <--- Yup

C:\Downloads> exit <--- poof. Command window disappears before your very eyes.

*******

Paul