K
Ken1943
The update allowed the 32 bit install with IE 9. Never tried 64 bit
because I never use it. Very rarely use IE anyway.
KenW
because I never use it. Very rarely use IE anyway.
KenW
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...winston
"Robin Bignall" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
why you saw it earlier than others)
IE10 for Win7 via Windows Update was first deployed to those who had previously installed (and using) IE 10 Release Preview (i.e.
why you saw it earlier than others)
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...winston
"s|b" wrote in message
To operate IE10 (on Win7 64 bit pcs)) in 64 bit mode you need to enable EPM (Enhanced Protected Mode) in IE's Properties (Advanced
tab)
....but that only provides the ability to operate IE10 64 bit for Content Processes not the Manager Process
- nor will you see '64 bit' when looking at IE's Help About (even though EPM is enabled)
EPM on Win7 though does not provide the same fuller featured benefits of the 64 bit mode IE10 available on a 64 bit Win8 machine
which provides increased security by causing the sandboxed Content Process to run under an isolation feature called 'AppContainer'.
Other features of IE10, on Win8 but not onWin7, are available when operating IE10 when running on a 64 bit processor running a 64
bit version of Windows
- the Manager Process always runs as a 64 bit process for the Modern UI and Desktop IE10
- Content Process always runs as a 64 bit process for the Modern UI
- Content Process always runs as a 32 bit process on IE10 Desktop unless EPM is enabled which then runs in a 64 bit process)
- Note: Likewise on Win8/IE10 64 bit does not tag itself as 64 bit in Help/About...
If you wish to read more, Google or Bing for 'Eric Law Understanding Enhanced Protected Mode'
- Eric was the MSFT IE Program Manager from 2004-2012 and instrumental in IE development and the developer of Fiddler Web debugger
(prior to moving on to his current role at Telerik and now working on Fiddler full time)
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To operate IE10 (on Win7 64 bit pcs)) in 64 bit mode you need to enable EPM (Enhanced Protected Mode) in IE's Properties (Advanced
tab)
....but that only provides the ability to operate IE10 64 bit for Content Processes not the Manager Process
- nor will you see '64 bit' when looking at IE's Help About (even though EPM is enabled)
EPM on Win7 though does not provide the same fuller featured benefits of the 64 bit mode IE10 available on a 64 bit Win8 machine
which provides increased security by causing the sandboxed Content Process to run under an isolation feature called 'AppContainer'.
Other features of IE10, on Win8 but not onWin7, are available when operating IE10 when running on a 64 bit processor running a 64
bit version of Windows
- the Manager Process always runs as a 64 bit process for the Modern UI and Desktop IE10
- Content Process always runs as a 64 bit process for the Modern UI
- Content Process always runs as a 32 bit process on IE10 Desktop unless EPM is enabled which then runs in a 64 bit process)
- Note: Likewise on Win8/IE10 64 bit does not tag itself as 64 bit in Help/About...
If you wish to read more, Google or Bing for 'Eric Law Understanding Enhanced Protected Mode'
- Eric was the MSFT IE Program Manager from 2004-2012 and instrumental in IE development and the developer of Fiddler Web debugger
(prior to moving on to his current role at Telerik and now working on Fiddler full time)
B
Bob Henson
Despite running Internet Explorer 10 mine still has two executables one
under C:\windows\Program Files, and another set-up under
C:\windows\Program Files (x86). If there is only one program why are
there two different set-ups, Bruce? Assuming they are still different,
do I need to run the 64bit one with a specific shortcut to it? If they
are not different, can I now delete the (x86) directory and contents ?
R
R. C. White
Hi, Winston.
Thank you for the tip about EPM - although I'm not sure how it applies to my
situation, if at all.
I did enable EPM in 64-bit IE10 in the Win8 x64 Desktop. (I can't see how
to get to "Internet Options" in the Modern version of IE 10.) Then I
rebooted, and the box was still checked (in both 32-bit and 64-bit IE, even
though I had not changed it in 32-bit.) But I see no other indication that
64-bit IE is running.
When Win7 was new, a couple of years ago, I spent a lot of time trying to
make 64-bit IE the default but never succeeded. The closest I came was to
put two identical icons on my Taskbar and remember which one was for the
Program Files (64-bit) version of IE. I'm not sure I ever saw any
difference, except that one said 64-bit in the About box.
Can you remind me what benefits 64-bit offers to IE?
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3505.0912) in Win8 Pro
"...winston" wrote in message
"s|b" wrote in message
To operate IE10 (on Win7 64 bit pcs)) in 64 bit mode you need to enable EPM
(Enhanced Protected Mode) in IE's Properties (Advanced
tab)
....but that only provides the ability to operate IE10 64 bit for Content
Processes not the Manager Process
- nor will you see '64 bit' when looking at IE's Help About (even though EPM
is enabled)
EPM on Win7 though does not provide the same fuller featured benefits of the
64 bit mode IE10 available on a 64 bit Win8 machine
which provides increased security by causing the sandboxed Content Process
to run under an isolation feature called 'AppContainer'.
Other features of IE10, on Win8 but not onWin7, are available when
operating IE10 when running on a 64 bit processor running a 64
bit version of Windows
- the Manager Process always runs as a 64 bit process for the Modern UI and
Desktop IE10
- Content Process always runs as a 64 bit process for the Modern UI
- Content Process always runs as a 32 bit process on IE10 Desktop unless EPM
is enabled which then runs in a 64 bit process)
- Note: Likewise on Win8/IE10 64 bit does not tag itself as 64 bit in
Help/About...
If you wish to read more, Google or Bing for 'Eric Law Understanding
Enhanced Protected Mode'
- Eric was the MSFT IE Program Manager from 2004-2012 and instrumental in IE
development and the developer of Fiddler Web debugger
(prior to moving on to his current role at Telerik and now working on
Fiddler full time)
Thank you for the tip about EPM - although I'm not sure how it applies to my
situation, if at all.
I did enable EPM in 64-bit IE10 in the Win8 x64 Desktop. (I can't see how
to get to "Internet Options" in the Modern version of IE 10.) Then I
rebooted, and the box was still checked (in both 32-bit and 64-bit IE, even
though I had not changed it in 32-bit.) But I see no other indication that
64-bit IE is running.
When Win7 was new, a couple of years ago, I spent a lot of time trying to
make 64-bit IE the default but never succeeded. The closest I came was to
put two identical icons on my Taskbar and remember which one was for the
Program Files (64-bit) version of IE. I'm not sure I ever saw any
difference, except that one said 64-bit in the About box.
Can you remind me what benefits 64-bit offers to IE?
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3505.0912) in Win8 Pro
"...winston" wrote in message
"s|b" wrote in message
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To operate IE10 (on Win7 64 bit pcs)) in 64 bit mode you need to enable EPM
(Enhanced Protected Mode) in IE's Properties (Advanced
tab)
....but that only provides the ability to operate IE10 64 bit for Content
Processes not the Manager Process
- nor will you see '64 bit' when looking at IE's Help About (even though EPM
is enabled)
EPM on Win7 though does not provide the same fuller featured benefits of the
64 bit mode IE10 available on a 64 bit Win8 machine
which provides increased security by causing the sandboxed Content Process
to run under an isolation feature called 'AppContainer'.
Other features of IE10, on Win8 but not onWin7, are available when
operating IE10 when running on a 64 bit processor running a 64
bit version of Windows
- the Manager Process always runs as a 64 bit process for the Modern UI and
Desktop IE10
- Content Process always runs as a 64 bit process for the Modern UI
- Content Process always runs as a 32 bit process on IE10 Desktop unless EPM
is enabled which then runs in a 64 bit process)
- Note: Likewise on Win8/IE10 64 bit does not tag itself as 64 bit in
Help/About...
If you wish to read more, Google or Bing for 'Eric Law Understanding
Enhanced Protected Mode'
- Eric was the MSFT IE Program Manager from 2004-2012 and instrumental in IE
development and the developer of Fiddler Web debugger
(prior to moving on to his current role at Telerik and now working on
Fiddler full time)
B
Bruce Hagen
Bob Henson said:
If you right click on IE in Program Files | Properties, it will show the
date created. The day you installed IE10. If you check the properties of
Program Files (x86), that created date should show when IE8 or IE9 was
installed.
I would not think you need this file, but I would copy it somewhere first so
you can replace it "just in case". For a lousy 5MB, I wouldn't bother
messing with it.
R
Robin Bignall
Right, so I guessed.
B
Bob Henson
They are both the same - the date of installation of Internet Explorer
10.
B
Bruce Hagen
Bob Henson said:
My bad. You're right. My IE folder shows June 13, 2009 but the contents are
from two weeks ago. (In both Program Files).
G
Gene E. Bloch
So not getting IE10 seems to be my punishment for not being an early
adopter ;-)
S
s|b
Ok, thanks!
S
s|b
Indeed and so says the browser header:
<http://whatismyuseragent.dotdoh.com/>
| Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/6.0; EIE10;ENUSWOL)
S
s|b
They are both the same.
<http://whatismyuseragent.dotdoh.com/>
Says 'WOW64' in both cases.
Bob also mentions both files are the same:
| From: Bob Henson
| Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general
| Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 10.x 64-bit?
| Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:14:28 +0000
| Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Robin Bignall
Maybe Windows Update just doesn't like you.
G
Gene E. Bloch
And here I thought I did everything right :-(
G
Gene E. Bloch
I'm not sure what that link is supposed to do, but it *does* show WOW64
in my IE9 32-bit browser.
S
s|b
The link shows the User-Agent header that your browser is
"broadcasting". Weird though that it shows 'WOW64' in your IE 9.x 32
bit... :-?
Although... I checked with Fx and it showed:
| Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0
I'm now sure that 'WOW64' is referring to 'Windows NT 6.1'. I'm betting
your OS is Windows 7 x64, right?
G
Gene E. Bloch
Yes.
My (rather vague) understanding is that WOW64 is a subdirectory of
Windows used to provide support for 32-bit apps in 64-bit Windows.
Since I have not 32-bit machines here, and since I'm being too lazy to
look it up, I'd welcome correction or corroboration from someone who
actually knows
B
Bob Henson
And with Firefox (which doesn't have a 64 bit version) so I guess that
refers to the Windows version.
J
Jim
Here's mine from IE 64 bits|b said:
Your browser's UserAgent string is: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0;
Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/5.0)
here's from IE 32 bit same PC
Your browser's UserAgent string is: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0;
Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/5.0)
Only difference I see is the 32 bit is using WOW64
Jim