How do MS-Win users do this?

[no.top.post]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88 & one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

== TIA.

 

[richard]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88 & one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

== TIA.

notepad is an application that can view the entire page.
not just one line or a short block of lines at a time.
so if I wanted to edit line 3, I'd just move my cursor to that line and
edit the line.
but since you don't use windows, how would notepad open for you?

 

[Jeff Layman]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88& one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

== TIA.

I would just open the file twice, so getting two versions of Notepad
running. One could be used to view line 88, the other to amend line 3.

 

[Paul]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88 & one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

== TIA.

The keyword for this is "split pane". And perhaps it
doesn't come with the bundled text editors. It might
require a visit to the shareware world.

In Solaris, I think textedit could be "infinitely" split,
and had decorations in the window that hinted at it. (I was
unable to find a sample picture of this.) In
Windows applications, you might have to visit a menu and
select "Split" or "Remove Split", to do something similar.
I don't see those options in Notepad or Wordpad.

A place you might expect to find it, is in an IDE (integrated
development environment). If Microsoft offers any free software
development tools that include an IDE, it might be in there.

Apparently you can split panes in Excel, but Excel costs money.

http://media.wiley.com/Lux/72/221972.image0.jpg

I found one Windows editor that claimed to split panes,
but in all their example pictures, the panes were editing
*different* files, rather than offering two views of the
same currently edited file.

Paul

 

[mechanic]

How do MS-Win users do this?

They install vim.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how Win-users do
this: = previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE] = after I
're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad. = now I
want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3, i.e. I
need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88 & one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

For starters, most Win users add a different, more versatile text
editor. You can check here for a large selection of text tools and
editors: http://thedatalist.com/pages/Text_Tools.htm or just
Google for "text editor."

For your specific task, if you want to overwrite line 3 with line 88,
just copy or cut line 88 to the clipboard and paste it over line 3.

If you don't know what "copy," "cut," and "paste" are, look in Windows
Help and Support.

 

[Wolf K]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88& one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

== TIA.

notepad is an application that can view the entire page.
not just one line or a short block of lines at a time.
so if I wanted to edit line 3, I'd just move my cursor to that line and
edit the line.
but since you don't use windows, how would notepad open for you?

Richard, he is using W7: "Win7 decided...."

If the single page can't show lines 88 and 3 at the same time, a simple
copy/paste will do what he wants: Copy line 88, mouse to line 3, paste
and compare. Delete superfluous text as necessary.

FWIW, there are a number of more powerful text editors than Notepad, eg
Metapad and Editpad. I've used both, recommended. Some editors are
focussed on programmers' needs, and can show the same text on two panes
at the same time, but I can't recall any names, sorry.

HTH,
Wolf K.

 

[DanS]

They install vim.

Funny, how non-Windows users have some oddball belief that Windows stops you
from being able to do something. (I'll call this being aragornian.)

(Or that the tools they use to do things are the "other-OS"-centric only.)

Windows is an OS.

It's not a 'program'....(program meaning something that gets a task done.)

Programs for Windows are written by, well, possibly millions of different people and
companies.

So, most likely...."there's an app for that".

I'd been programming since my C64 days, and around the mid-90's, I stopped,
because I had come to the realization, that nearly any piece of s/w I needed was
already written by someone else, and available as freeware, or very cheap shareware.

Unless I needed something with some very specific features, there was no point in
spending tons of time writing it.

(Since then, I have written a few titles, but again, with very very specific uses.)

So to also answer the OPs question.......

........ http://www.nonags.com/nonags/texted32.html

.......lists 54 different freeware "text editors", all with varying degrees of feature-richness,
including several that do split-screen.



In the OPs defense, I'm sure he/she had no clue that there was any other program to
do text editing under Windows other than Notepad.

However, many would say "ignorance is no excuse".

 

[Philip Herlihy]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88 & one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

== TIA.

Use Word and do this:
http://bit.ly/zIhuGv

 

[Evan Platt]

notepad is an application that can view the entire page.
not just one line or a short block of lines at a time.
so if I wanted to edit line 3, I'd just move my cursor to that line and
edit the line.
but since you don't use windows, how would notepad open for you?

bullis, first, learn to read.

Second, since you obviously don't know squat about computers, quit
trying to help people who know way more than you.

 

[Bob I]

Copy-Paste

 

[Nil]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use
notepad. = now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to
line 3, i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88 & one for
line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

They either open the file in two instances of Notepad, or they use a
different text editor. Same as in Windows 3.1

Notepad++ can open two views of a file simultaneously. As can many
other editors.

 

[no.top.post]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88& one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

== TIA.

I would just open the file twice, so getting two versions of Notepad
running. One could be used to view line 88, the other to amend line 3.
--

Good. Great ideas are often simple.
And just remember which one is write/save and which one/S are read.

BTW, Free/ETHOberon which I switched to in 199? from M$, and which
came on a single 1M4 floppy, via the [copy] button on the text-frame,
makes a duplicate-view, like when N mirrors show the cat, they ALL
show its ear moving. I.e. the screen-view and not the file view
is duplicated.

Paul wrote:-

The keyword for this is "split pane". And perhaps it
doesn't come with the bundled text editors. It might
require a visit to the shareware world.

In Solaris, I think textedit could be "infinitely" split,
and had decorations in the window that hinted at it. (I was
unable to find a sample picture of this.) In

Yes, it's not common in *nix either.
PD `wily`[copied from plan9 acme, copied from ETHOberon]
does it, but for heavy duty I launch a LinuxETHOberon.

Windows applications, you might have to visit a menu and
select "Split" or "Remove Split", to do something similar.
I don't see those options in Notepad or Wordpad.

A place you might expect to find it, is in an IDE (integrated
development environment). If Microsoft offers any free software
development tools that include an IDE, it might be in there.

Re. IDE: Win7 has got `PowerShell` which looks interesting,
but mentions <time limited authorisation>. Is this another
M$ scam, like a narcotics peddlar; where it becomes disabled
unless you keep on paying them?

== TIA

 

[Nil]

Re. IDE: Win7 has got `PowerShell` which looks interesting,
but mentions <time limited authorisation>. Is this another
M$ scam, like a narcotics peddlar; where it becomes disabled
unless you keep on paying them?

"Another"? What prior example are you referring to?

 

[richard]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88& one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

== TIA.

notepad is an application that can view the entire page.
not just one line or a short block of lines at a time.
so if I wanted to edit line 3, I'd just move my cursor to that line and
edit the line.
but since you don't use windows, how would notepad open for you?

Richard, he is using W7: "Win7 decided...."

If the single page can't show lines 88 and 3 at the same time, a simple
copy/paste will do what he wants: Copy line 88, mouse to line 3, paste
and compare. Delete superfluous text as necessary.

FWIW, there are a number of more powerful text editors than Notepad, eg
Metapad and Editpad. I've used both, recommended. Some editors are
focussed on programmers' needs, and can show the same text on two panes
at the same time, but I can't recall any names, sorry.

HTH,
Wolf K.

lately I've been using notepad++. It makes for a nice little html editor.
for a text editor I use abiword.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88& one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

Use a better text editor, like this multi-tab editor:

Notepad++ Home
http://notepad-plus-plus.org/

Yousuf Khan

 

[Stan Brown]

I stopped using Windows after W3.1, so I'm wondering how
Win-users do this:
= previously I wrote some notes/logs [on PS-ISE]
= after I 're-called' the text, Win7 decided it wanted to use notepad.
= now I want to read what I wrote to line 88, and write to line 3,
i.e. I need 2 'views' of the file: one for line 88 & one for line 3.

How do MS-Win users do this?

Native Windows isn't very good at text editing. I use Vim, which
also works on a variety of platforms. It's free, and open source.
There's a vibrant user community.

http://www.vim.org

 

[Nil]

Native Windows isn't very good at text editing.

That's a non sequitur. Windows is an operating system, not an
editor. So, of course it isn't very good at text editing. Neither is
my toaster, or my shoehorn.

I use Vim, which also works on a variety of platforms. It's free,
and open source.
There's a vibrant user community.

http://www.vim.org

Now THAT's a text editor!

 

[Stan Brown]

That's a non sequitur. Windows is an operating system, not an
editor. So, of course it isn't very good at text editing. Neither is
my toaster, or my shoehorn.

Oh please. Windows includes many application programs. Indeed, it
seems to be part of Microsoft's strategy to obscure the difference
between an operating system and an application program.

Would you have been happier if I had said "the application that is
included with native Windows, called Notepad"?

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Oh please. Windows includes many application programs. Indeed, it
seems to be part of Microsoft's strategy to obscure the difference
between an operating system and an application program.

Would you have been happier if I had said "the application that is
included with native Windows, called Notepad"?

Yes, we would (-:!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A true-born Englishman does not know any language. He does not speak English
too
well either but, at least, he is not proud of this. He is, however, immensely
proud of not knowing any foreign languages. (George Mikes, "How to be
Inimitable" [1960].)