How big is SP1?

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Bob Hatch

Just wondering how large this Service Pack is. I'm using Verizon
Wireless for my internet connection and will have to update 2 computers.
If it's big, I'd like to download the Service Pack once and install it
on both computers.

Any guesses, or facts?

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the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
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D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Bob said:
Just wondering how large this Service Pack is. I'm using Verizon
Wireless for my internet connection and will have to update 2 computers.
If it's big, I'd like to download the Service Pack once and install it
on both computers.

Any guesses, or facts?
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Assuming the final release is the same as the release candidate:

7601.17105.100929-1730-3_Update_Sp_Wave1-RC1SP1.1_DVD.iso 1875.2MB
windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe 865.4MB
windows6.1-KB976932-X86.exe 514.7MB

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e6-4056-4059-8a1b-3a9b77cdfdda&displaylang=en
http://tinyurl.com/36prwjl
 
S

Stan Brown

Assuming the final release is the same as the release candidate:

7601.17105.100929-1730-3_Update_Sp_Wave1-RC1SP1.1_DVD.iso 1875.2MB
windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe 865.4MB
windows6.1-KB976932-X86.exe 514.7MB

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e6-4056-4059-8a1b-3a9b77cdfdda&displaylang=en
http://tinyurl.com/36prwjl
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Holy Jupiter! I don't think I want to try downloading a Gigabyte
through my home internet; I'd rather download it at work where they
have a much faster connection and burn it to a DVD.

My Windows at home is activated; can I expect a problem if I install
SP1 on a different computer from the one where I activated it?
 
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Joe Morris

Bob Hatch said:
Just wondering how large this Service Pack is. I'm using Verizon Wireless
for my internet connection and will have to update 2 computers. If it's
big, I'd like to download the Service Pack once and install it on both
computers.
Click to expand...
Any guesses, or facts?
Click to expand...
Here's the contents of the production release ISO downloaded yesterday from
MSDN:

43 autorun.inf
102,672 setup.exe
947,070,088 windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe
536,437,704 windows6.1-KB976932-ia64.exe
563,934,504 windows6.1-KB976932-x86.exe
2,047,545,011 bytes total

Joe Morris
 
K

Ken Blake

Just wondering how large this Service Pack is. I'm using Verizon
Wireless for my internet connection and will have to update 2 computers.
If it's big, I'd like to download the Service Pack once and install it
on both computers.

Any guesses, or facts?
Click to expand...

It's about 2GB. And yes, you can download it once, burn it to a DVD,
and install it on multiple computers.

I can also report that the installation went very smoothly, and took
about 30 minutes here. And although I haven't yet seen any differences
with it installed, I haven't had any problems either.
 
R

relic

Stan Brown said:
My Windows at home is activated; can I expect a problem if I install
SP1 on a different computer from the one where I activated it?
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If you download the whole file, it will install SP1 on _any_ PC.
You can also Slipstream it with the base Windows 7 DVD.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

relic said:
If you download the whole file, it will install SP1 on _any_ PC. You
can also Slipstream it with the base Windows 7 DVD.
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I slipstreamed service packs into systems in the past, but it was never
a simple process. Is there some painless way to do it with Windows 7?
 
J

John Aldred

Joe said:
Here's the contents of the production release ISO downloaded yesterday
from MSDN:

43 autorun.inf
102,672 setup.exe
947,070,088 windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe
536,437,704 windows6.1-KB976932-ia64.exe
563,934,504 windows6.1-KB976932-x86.exe
2,047,545,011 bytes total
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Was there no option to just download the specific update file that you
required for a particular architecture.

For instance when I put SP1 RC on my 32 bit Home Premium system I downloaded
windows6.1-KB976932-X86.exe, which was approx 515 MB.
 
S

Stan Brown

If you download the whole file, it will install SP1 on _any_ PC.
You can also Slipstream it with the base Windows 7 DVD.
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Thanks; I'll download the ISO.

I could slipstream it if I *had* a Windows 7 DVD, but I have a Dell
computer. (But are there any manufacturers that do still supply
Windows installation disks?)
 
B

Bob Hatch

Just wondering how large this Service Pack is. I'm using Verizon
Wireless for my internet connection and will have to update 2 computers.
If it's big, I'd like to download the Service Pack once and install it
on both computers.

Any guesses, or facts?
Click to expand...
Thanks guys. Now, can I download the ISO file now, or do I have to wait
until the 22nd?

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com
 
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Joe Morris

Was there no option to just download the specific update file that you
required for a particular architecture.
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The only package currently available to MSDN and Technet subscribers is the
complete ISO with all three packages.

My expectation (based on how Microsoft has distributed service packs in the
past) would be that you will have the option to download the full update kit
for your flavor of Windows 7 once the update is generally available next
week.

Joe
 
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relic

R

relic

Bob Hatch said:
Thanks guys. Now, can I download the ISO file now, or do I have to wait
until the 22nd?
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Both.
You can download the Release Candidate now.
You can download the SP1 Release-To-Manufacturing after the 22nd.

I'd wait.
 
J

Joe Morris

Bob Hatch said:
Thanks guys. Now, can I download the ISO file now, or do I have to wait
until the 22nd?
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If you're a subscriber to MSDN or Technet, or are an OEM, you can download
the files now.

Otherwise, no, unless you download it from a non-Microsoft site. I don't
recommend that unless you've got strong affirmative reason to trust the
site, but if you must get it that way at least check the hash of the files.

Microsoft publishes that SHA1 hash of the ISO on the MSDN and Technet
download pages, along with the CRC of the ISO:

SHA1: F2ABA1102E18EAD08C78527AB422C09AB7D1F54C ISO/CRC: B07748AE

And yes, I verified the hash against what was downloaded. It matches.

Here are the hashes of the files on the DVD, which presumably will be the
same as files to be downloaded from Microsoft:

MD5 SHA-1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
sp1\autorun.inf
2f9896eb231b4e8c3b9fd38f0196da42 64555a64d3498f512701bede26d03a01400e646e

sp1\setup.exe
a16e0713d78185bf0aecf7281100f9d2 f6cc673eeebe1c59af96c37d66e7fd295622a4b4

sp1\windows6.1-KB976932-ia64.exe
c0a186b85239bfab823b22ff74c192b2 1ab97593f6f625392ca90b18f7617b0797a46f1c

sp1\windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe
28d3932f714bf71d78e75d36aa2e0fb8 74865ef2562006e51d7f9333b4a8d45b7a749dab

sp1\windows6.1-KB976932-x86.exe
4bf28fc00d86c936c89e2d91ef46758b c3516bc5c9e69fee6d9ac4f981f5b95977a8a2fa


But, of course, why should you trust any security information anyone offers
here? There are some people on USENET who know me professionally, and whom
I know similarly; I'll trust their information, but only if I can verify
that they actually posted it...and I doubt that either of us knows the other
except through these messages. Sadly, a healthy dose of paranoia is
necessry these days. Caveat emptor and all that.

Joe Morris
 
K

Ken Blake

Thanks guys. Now, can I download the ISO file now, or do I have to wait
until the 22nd?
Click to expand...

Unless you have an MSDN or Technet subscription, you have to wait
until 2/23.
 
S

Stan Brown

Thanks. That's the date then. :)
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I wonder if, for that day, Netflix's share of Internet bandwidth will
drop below 25%, as every Windows user tried to download SP1. :)
 
S

Stan Brown

"Dell Customers can now request a set of backup discs containing the
factory-installed operating system as well as the device drivers and
utilities specific to your system."

http://support.dell.com/support/top...llcare/en/backupcd_form?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
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Thanks for the thought. I hate to sound ungrateful, but, ...

Though I can't be certain from the wording of the article, it doesn't
sound like a Windows 7 installation disk. It sounds like a disk that
wipes the hard drive and returns it to factory condition (which I
already have).

Notice also that they say they are not just continually adding
drivers but continually dropping them. Thus after using this
recovery disk you may find some of your hardware doesn't work any
more.
 
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