I stand by my comments about the Windows firewall.
What? That's silly. You were wrong and I provided links to sources showing how you were wrong. You were wrong about 2-way firewalls and you are still wrong about 2-way firewalls. XP never had a 2-way FW, even with SP3. The change with SP2 and SP3 was that the FW was enabled by default. Later versions of Windows have a 2-way. And I provided proof of that.
It makes no sense to state you stand by your comments, then contradict them in the very next sentence.
(Contradicting them with incorrect information, no less)
the default configurations will block some or all input communication and assumes what is installed by the OS, or the user, is legitimate and therefore is allowed to output.
Totally wrong!
Why are you making things up? The default configuration blocks all input???? Pretty hard to use the Internet then, don't you think??? And it does not assume anything. And like other firewalls, you can choose the level of intervention required.
Recent versions of Windows collect information on the apps being used on a computer and how they are being used and reports this info to Microsoft unless the user chooses to stop it. Much of this collection and reporting is opt-out, instead of opt-in, so the average user is not aware it is happening.
This is nothing but Microsoft bashing!
This comment has nothing to do with Windows Firewall and is a poor attempt to confuse the issue. How sad.
FTR, users are prompted from the start if they want to participate in any
anonymous reporting - of some (
non-personal only) statistics. And you can opt-in or out later on, if you wish.
Even when a user selects to opt-out of the Customer Experience Improvement Program, data is still collected and some of it is reported for other reasons.
Oh? Got a link to support that claim. Show us what information is being collected and sent to MS without our permission. But beyond that, this again is just more Microsoft bashing as it clearly it has nothing to do with Windows Firewall.
So I don't know what you game is here, Aminifu but it clearly is not to present truthful facts.
Just about any 3rd party firewall will attempt to foist unwanted toolbars and other unwanted add-ons to your system that consume unnecessary disk space, RAM and CPU resources. Windows Firewall does not. And note those toolbars are notorious for reporting your computing history "home".
Every user should educate themselves and decide what is appropriate for them.
Absolutely because clearly there are people who post things that are just not true, with no supporting evidence, and expect readers automatically accept that as the Gospel.
Bottom line, any user who is concerned about the traffic (malware and otherwise) in and out of their computer can not depend on default firewall configurations.
Total hogwash! Come on Aminifu! This is just total fabrication. If there were any truth to the above, there would be
100s of millions of infected users out there. And there aren't!
It is simply ludicrous to suggest (or believe) that Microsoft (or any software maker) would use a Firewall that, by default, leaves you unprotected. Especially Microsoft who gets bashed by biased MS bashers at the drop of hat - even with unrelated facts.
The traffic must be monitored over time and appropriate rules applied to allow and block what is desired. This can be done on the on 1 or more levels (app, process, port, protocol, and/or site address). This can get complicated, but there are plenty of free tools to help make the rule making process easier.
More hogwash! Clearly Aminifu is not familiar with Windows Firewall for setting up rules is not hard. But clearly Aminifu is assuming everyone needs to setup rules. That again, is not true. The vast majority of users will NEVER need to manually set up any rules.
Every user should educate themselves
I really wish you would heed your own advice. For (1), that would stop you from posting false information and (2) you would not have to take such efforts to obfuscate your false information with more hogwash!
I showed, with links, supporting evidence to backup my claims. Now backup your claims. Or at least man-up and admit your information was not accurate.
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The facts are, Windows Firewall is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. Windows Firewall is a two-way firewall. Windows Firewall is NOT spyware, it does not send information to Microsoft.
Are there more advanced, 3rd party firewalls? Sure. But the vast majority of users don't need them, or the additional responsibility required to learn, configure, or maintain them.
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Now if you are going to present some facts with supporting evidence, I will listen. If more biased MS bashing that has nothing to do with the Windows Firewall, I will give it all the attention it deserves. Otherwise, this thread needs to be returned to BEARCATJER.