Changing MB and CPU W7

J

Joe

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64 Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks
 
A

Allen Drake

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64 Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks
Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.
 
C

choro

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.
I would have thought he would at least have to reinstall the relevant
software for the motherboard if he is not changing anything else such as
the graphics card, the network card, the sound card (the latter two
which might be included with the new motherboard or rather built in in
which case he will *have* to install the software that comes with the
mo-bo).
-- choro
 
R

Rob

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.


Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
..........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now :)

Rob
 
J

Jolly polly

Rob said:
Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just added
the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU lucky
it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now :)

Rob
Providing the two motherboards have the same (make) chipset there should not
be a problem. There is of course, always the exception to the rule ;)
 
A

Allen Drake

Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now :)

Rob
I find sometimes it is impossible to tell in advance if you may need
to reactivate. A few times I didn't and last week I simply moved
everything to a new case and I did.

Maybe I might be interested in that CPU. Email me and let me know
what you want. What about the MoBo?

Al.
 
A

Allen Drake

I would have thought he would at least have to reinstall the relevant
software for the motherboard if he is not changing anything else such as
the graphics card, the network card, the sound card (the latter two
which might be included with the new motherboard or rather built in in
which case he will *have* to install the software that comes with the
mo-bo).
-- choro
Ya, I forgot to mention that part. Usually I put the disk in the
DVD-ROM and see what it sees and has to add like drivers and apps.

Al.
 
A

Ant

Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now :)
Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?
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A

Alex Clayton

Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?


I was wondering that same thing. If the W7 copy was a factory install
you may have a surprise coming in a month or so.
 
A

Alex Clayton

I doubt Windows 7 Ultimate is a factory install. Even if it's a generic
OEM version, it has been proven time and time again that a computer is
not defined by upgrading the MB or CPU.
Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.
 
R

Rob

Providing the two motherboards have the same (make) chipset there should
not be a problem. There is of course, always the exception to the rule ;)
NO as I have said from a 1156 to 1155 CPU which entailed a P55 chipset
to a Z68 chipset.
 
R

Rob

Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.

Its a full version of W7 x68 and it says its still activated and
genuine. If it does come up in 30 days Ill reactivate it.
 
A

Alex Clayton

Its a full version of W7 x68 and it says its still activated and
genuine. If it does come up in 30 days Ill reactivate it.
If by "full version" you mean you have a copy of the OS that you can
move to any computer you chose, then you are fine. If by full version
you mean you bought the computer and it was already installed, then you
may have to re-install it every 30 days, or try to get the manufacturer
to make it right with MS.
 
A

Alex Clayton

Acer put a new motherboard in one of our laptops and that was six months
ago and we have had no problems nor been asked to activate again. I
would have raised hell with Acer had it been me.
Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had
to have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they
would give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life
on hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.
 
R

Rob

If by "full version" you mean you have a copy of the OS that you can
move to any computer you chose, then you are fine. If by full version
you mean you bought the computer and it was already installed, then you
may have to re-install it every 30 days, or try to get the manufacturer
to make it right with MS.

*OEM - must purchase with system order. Cheapest version I can buy.

*OEM 32 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183
*OEM 64 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183
 
A

Alex Clayton

On 8/01/2012 10:57 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:


*OEM - must purchase with system order. Cheapest version I can buy.

*OEM 32 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183
*OEM 64 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183

If this means you do not have a copy you can move to another computer
then you "may" be in for a headache. It's been a while since I went
through this but MS considered a new MB as making a new machine. Now if
you have a copy of the OS that did not come pre-installed, then it will
of course not matter.
Of course this may be something that MS has decided to change also. I am
sure I was not the only person who got caught up in this, so they may
have changed their policy. You will know soon enough.
 
C

charlie

Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had to
have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they would
give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life on
hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.
Sometime back, I had a similar problem with a netbook.
After a bunch of phone calls to ACER, they sent a DVD copy of the as
installed OPS system. That installed with no problem. The original issue
was that the one time make a system backup scheme failed, due to a bad
DVD burn. While I had other means of making a backup, it really
irritated me that there was no easy way to totally restore the netbook's
HD to exactly out of the box configuration without a DVD copy.
The netbook in question is also the last XP based system I have.

One other system is an odd ball, in that it is used for hardware
debugging and general development. The ops system is up for grabs on it
- - Windows(Usually 7), Linux, and a couple of others under a virtual
machine as needed. The BIOS on that machine is also a customized
version. Seems the chipset drivers plus BIOS didn't completely conform
to current "standards", causing performance problems with some SSD
drives and SATA. It even has a current "high end" MBD, and before mods,
the current BIOS. The falling out between Intel and NVIDIA is not
helping either.
 
A

Allen Drake

Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had
to have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they
would give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life
on hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.
Alex did you get pop-up warnings that you had 30 days and reminders
your time was running out? That is very strange as I have never heard
of that happening but I always build my own and only use OEM OS
reinstalls with the old XP systems I have had for longer then I can
recall. Those I have moved to new builds and modified systems with
little hassle.

I try to stay clear of outlets and outside vendors after finding out
what Best Buys does to their laptops before they sell them.

Al.
 
A

Alex Clayton

Or multiple experiences.
That was what I was thinking, I am sure I was not the only one this
happened to. That machine is made so that the power in port is part of
the MB. If it gets damaged or broken the only fix (that will work) is
replace the MB.
So all of you who no longer have to deal with this owe me a thanks
for fixing it. :)
 
A

Alex Clayton

Alex did you get pop-up warnings that you had 30 days and reminders
your time was running out? That is very strange as I have never heard
of that happening but I always build my own and only use OEM OS
reinstalls with the old XP systems I have had for longer then I can
recall. Those I have moved to new builds and modified systems with
little hassle.

I try to stay clear of outlets and outside vendors after finding out
what Best Buys does to their laptops before they sell them.

Al.
No, everything would be fine until all of a sudden I would get a "Not
Genuine copy of Windows, bla bla bla".
The machine came from BB, but nothing was wrong until Acer "fixed it".
We had been using it for around 6 months. Wife managed to bend the pin
in the power port. I figured Acer would not cover something like that so
I took it to a shop. They said they would solder in a new port but that
it would never hold. Only way to fix it was new MB. I just bought Wife a
new machine. Then later sent that one to Acer to see how much it would
cost. They got it on a Friday and the next Monday instead of an E-mail
with cost, I got one that said they fixed it under warranty and here is
the tracking for it coming back. I thought wow, that was cool. I was
just using it for school since it was lighter to carry then. After 30
days all the fun started. After sending it back to Acer twice and
multiple re-installs I just bought a new key from MS. That machine is
now just used to play movies onto our TV. Acer could have fixed this but
they chose not to. If they had just told me the truth I would have not
really cared. I never expected them to fix the power port free. What
really pissed me off was the way they wasted so much of my time and
money stalling after they knew full well what the hell was wrong.
 

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