Change Win7 look

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choro

I have recently built myself a Win 7 desktop and it took me months
before I ventured to move over from my old WinXP desktop to my new Win7
one.

In general I must say that I have at last become rather fond of at least
some of the features of Win7 though I wish they had kept it simple. No
need for all those "Libraries" where documents do not necessarily show
up readily in any case.

What's wrong with creating your own folders and saving everything in the
relevant logically named folders?

To overcome this confusion I have started creating my very own personal
folders. I have for example created a My Docs folder within My Documents
where I keep all word documents etc so that when I click My Documents I
see all the sub-folders within it and nothing else. No clutter.

I am actually thinking of deleting the Library folders and relying
purely on my very own personal sub-folders created within My Documents.

But all is not lost. I find my new computer is fast. Very fast though I
wouldn't know how much of this is due to Win7 and how much to the state
of the art components I have used to build my new desktop.

Can anybody throw any light on this?

What if say I built and identical computer and put WinXP as the
operating system on it? I suppose I could try it on my Win7 computer by
just disconnecting the main HD and installing another HD in it with
WinXP. But it might just be too much hassle just to prove a point. I
doubt that there would be that much of a difference between the two OSs.

Still may be someone HAS actually tried this? Anybody out there?

But read further down too...

My sentiments exactly. I'm new to Win7, having just bought a laptop with
it (still hanging on to XP for desktop), and I'm just aghast at all the
things wrong with Explorer.
True, I did love the simplicity of Windows Explorer on WinXP but I guess
in time you'll get used to the new version on Win7. It is not really all
that different AND I must say the ability to click back x number of
steps down the folder tree in an instant IS a great advantage. The path
as displayed now is a great improvement in this respect.

The worst thing about Windows Explorer is that damned folder icon! Did
they really have to change the icon?

It has become fashionable to grumble about M$ but all considered you get
good value for your money really. How much do you think you are really
paying for your OS when you but a proprietary desktop or laptop? I'd say
not much.

But of course they do fleece the likes of me who builds his own desktop
and has to buy the OEM version of Windows. Buying the Retail version you
really get screwed! You have to apply some jelly to your bum if you are
not to yell out as you get screwed trying to buy the retail version.

MS Office for home users and for users is fairly reasonable in price too
now especially in view of the fact that you can install it on up to 3
home machines.

No, we can't really grumble really though taking a snipe at M$ makes
one feel good. The feel good factor, I call it.
 
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choro

I have Windows 7 and XP Pro on one computer, each on its own hard drive.
Windows 7 boots much faster and is faster once you get to the desktop as
well. Not as fast as the Linux Mint I have on yet another hard drive in
the same machine, mind you, but faster than XP.
Been thinking of doing the same myself actually but too lazy to do it as
I am utilizing a KVM into which I can plug 4 computers. I have my Win7
and WinXP machines permanently plugged in. Though I have moved over my
laptop to another desk and stopped plugging it in nowadays.

But what you wrote is very interesting. Though I have to add that when I
decided to relegate my once state of the art 10 year old WinXP machine
to second place, I decided to see if uninstalling a few unnecessary
large programs would speed things up and it worked. And it did get much
faster when I uninstalled Adobe Photoshop Elements version 5.

There are one or two other programs that I really don't need on that
machine which I should uninstall. Photo software such as the Photoshop
Elements and Corel Photo XI seem to take ages to load up unlike the
instantaneous loading of other software.

I have found out that I can do most things far simpler with IrfanView
which is a marvelous little program that can do most things a home user
would ask for and with its add-ons will tackle almost anything. It also
has a, what I would call, superb slide show facility among its other
surprises.
 
B

Bob Henson

Heather said:
Ditto here as well Dick. Typing this in OE on my desktop and the laptop
is just a month or two old and lies here closed beside me.

I will be putting a) Thunderbird on it and b) using that link for the
Classic Shell Source Forge program which will change it to an XP
interface, they say.
It won't change it entirely - but it really does help a lot, especially if,
like me, you like the old Start menu.
I wonder if there is any place I could get the prior version of Windows
Live Mail. I will check www.oldversions.com and see. Nope.......but if
anyone has any info, it might be of interest. Not quite sure which way
to go re mail and ng's.
As you said you were going to put Thunderbird on it, you would be well
advised to stick to that and not use WLM at all - even the older version is
truly dreadful and non standards compliant. Thunderbird is wonderful by
comparison.
 
G

Gordon

What's wrong with creating your own folders and saving everything in the
relevant logically named folders?
Nothing at all.
To overcome this confusion I have started creating my very own personal
folders. I have for example created a My Docs folder within My Documents
where I keep all word documents etc so that when I click My Documents I
see all the sub-folders within it and nothing else. No clutter.

So how does this impinge on "Libraries"?
I am actually thinking of deleting the Library folders and relying
purely on my very own personal sub-folders created within My Documents.
You do know what Libraries do, don't you, that you can create your own,
so that you can view files from disparate folders, disks and even
CD/DVDs all under one Library classification if you need to?
All the Libraries are is a VIEW of folders, rather like the Addressbook
"view" of Contacts in Outlook.
 
L

Lewis

In message said:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:57:29 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
There to stay? One of the first things I did after installing Win 7
was to remove the Libraries.
OK, how? I did check Google and the answers I found seemed worse than
just leaving them there (I only use the Win7 machien to play video to my
projector, so I install nothing on it but GOM, VLC, QuickTime, and
Avast!

I am hesitant to use this colution:

<http://www.tothepc.com/archives/remove-libraries-from-windows-7-navigation-panel/>

Just based on bad experiences with registry hacks in the past. If this
was a normal machine that I used myself, I would hack away, but this is
a machine that has to be absolutely rock solid 100% of the time and
can't be mucked about with since other (read, non geeks) need to use it
Agreed, it's pretty darn bad. ClassicShell helps, but doesn't fix
everything.
<1> It is not, of course, 100% rock solid. But it's pretty close. If I
had an HD projector with HDMI I'd replace the machine with a $99 Apple
TV, honestly. :)
 
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Lewis

In message <[email protected]>
Heather said:
Ditto here as well Dick. Typing this in OE on my desktop and the laptop
is just a month or two old and lies here closed beside me.
I will be putting a) Thunderbird on it and b) using that link for the
Classic Shell Source Forge program which will change it to an XP
interface, they say.
I wonder if there is any place I could get the prior version of Windows
Live Mail. I will check www.oldversions.com and see. Nope.......but if
anyone has any info, it might be of interest. Not quite sure which way
to go re mail and ng's.
I think you can still download the 2009 (v14) from Microsoft.

Hmm... maybe not.
 
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Char Jackson

OK, how? I did check Google and the answers I found seemed worse than
just leaving them there (I only use the Win7 machien to play video to my
projector, so I install nothing on it but GOM, VLC, QuickTime, and
Avast!

I am hesitant to use this colution:

<http://www.tothepc.com/archives/remove-libraries-from-windows-7-navigation-panel/>

Just based on bad experiences with registry hacks in the past. If this
was a normal machine that I used myself, I would hack away, but this is
a machine that has to be absolutely rock solid 100% of the time and
can't be mucked about with since other (read, non geeks) need to use it
daily.
I used a similar solution from here:
<http://www.askvg.com/how-to-disable-libraries-feature-in-windows-7/>

You have the option of making the Registry changes manually, or you
can simply run the downloadable script to toggle the display of
Libraries on or off. I recommend using the script.

The machine has been 100% rock solid since making the change.

By the way, the "askvg.com" site has dozens and dozens of cool hacks
and tweaks available. Pretty cool site. (No affiliation.)
 
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Char Jackson

In message <[email protected]>




I think you can still download the 2009 (v14) from Microsoft.

Hmm... maybe not.
Download links have been posted for WLM v14 several times recently in
this group. I'm too lazy to skim back and get one for the OP, but they
shouldn't be hard to find.
 
H

Heather

Char Jackson said:
Download links have been posted for WLM v14 several times recently in
this group. I'm too lazy to skim back and get one for the OP, but they
shouldn't be hard to find.
OK......I don't recall seeing them, but I will try a search on the ng.
 

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