CCleaner

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Gordonbp

I haven't gotten any of those calls recently (knock on wood).

Maybe it's because when I get them I play innocent for a long time and
ask a lot of questions. Then I start telling them why I don't trust
them.

I only do it when I'm not in a rush, and I hope it keeps the caller from
scamming someone else for a few minutes...

In my view, anyone who would make such a call must be a sociopath.
If I get one I play along for a bit - then tell them I'm not running
Windows, then ask if they sleep well at night.
 
X

xfile

I haven't gotten any of those calls recently (knock on wood).

Maybe it's because when I get them I play innocent for a long time and
ask a lot of questions. Then I start telling them why I don't trust
them.

I only do it when I'm not in a rush, and I hope it keeps the caller from
scamming someone else for a few minutes...

In my view, anyone who would make such a call must be a sociopath.
I use so-called "white-list" tactic for both e-mails and phone calls.

Any e-mails don't address my name go to spam folder. Unless it's from
known merchants or friends, otherwise, any solicitations go to spam folder.

For phone calls, Do I know you? No? Bye! If yes, when and how?
Wrong! Bye! Even it's from a legitimate bank or merchant for legitimate
business, but when they want to confirm my contact information at then
end, I would say: I haven't changed anything so check your computer for
account information. If I want to change anything, I'll go to your web
site or call your office.

In general, I'd spent as little time as possible with them, and don't
give out any personal information over phones or e-mails unless it's I
initiated the contact.
 
K

Ken Blake

For phone calls, Do I know you? No? Bye! If yes, when and how?
Wrong! Bye! Even it's from a legitimate bank or merchant for legitimate
business, but when they want to confirm my contact information at then
end, I would say: I haven't changed anything so check your computer for
account information. If I want to change anything, I'll go to your web
site or call your office.

In general, I'd spent as little time as possible with them,

You spend much more time on the phone with such callers than I do. As
soon as I realize that a caller is trying to sell me something, I hang
up.
 
K

Ken Blake

"Steve Hayes" wrote in message


------------>CCleaner is well worth the price (FREE!). I downloaded it from
CNet - always trustworthy.
The first time I used it, it took almost half hour to analyze my
computer, and another half hour to get rid of all the junk.
I then noticed that files and folders opened almost a full second
quicker than before.

I run it once a day. Overkill? Almost certainly, but since I have it
scheduled to run at night while I'm asleep, there's really no downside
to running it so often.
 
K

KCB

Ken Blake said:
Only few users know enough for that control to be valuable.





Only few users would choose that option.




A registry cleaner that makes a registry backup before making changes
is safer than one that doesn't. However, a backup does *not* make it
completely safe. Changes to the registry can result in an unbootable
computer. And since the "cleaning" that any registry cleaner does is
largely useless, running the risk of using it is a poor choice.
I wasn't expressing any opinion whether it should be used or not used,
merely stating facts about it's functions. That being said, all the
safeties, and the backup, are ON by default, so a user wouldn't have to
choose them.

Finally, I note that you conveniently deleted the last line in my post,
which was: "Of course, anybody who doesn't know what they
are doing shouldn't be using ANY utilities." That includes CCleaner in the
"ANY" part.
 
K

Ken Blake

Finally, I note that you conveniently deleted the last line in my post,
which was: "Of course, anybody who doesn't know what they
are doing shouldn't be using ANY utilities." That includes CCleaner in the
"ANY" part.

Conveniently? I deleted it because I wasn't replying to it, not
because it was convenient. I didn't want to reply to it because, even
though I disagreed, I didn't want to start an argument over it.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

If I get one I play along for a bit - then tell them I'm not running
Windows, then ask if they sleep well at night.
Mind if I steal your idea? :)
 
X

xfile

You spend much more time on the phone with such callers than I do. As
soon as I realize that a caller is trying to sell me something, I hang
up.
LOL I agree, you are more effective :)
 
X

xfile

I take it that your dashes and arrows are your own personal form of
quoting. Ugh.

Anyway, I thought someone said recently that CNet had resorted to
wrapping their downloads in a bundle that frequently included toolbars
and related junk. If accurate, they wouldn't be my primary choice for
a download site.

Lastly, having files and folders open a full second quicker than
before hardly seems worth the trouble.


Anyway, I thought someone said recently that CNet had resorted to
wrapping their downloads in a bundle that frequently included toolbars
and related junk.
It is true. It's a browser hijacker.
 
Q

Quilljar

A friend of mine said he tells those cold callers that he died last week. I
tried this and it certainly stopped the caller!
Q
 
E

Ed Cryer

Gene said:
Mind if I steal your idea? :)
If you get a really persistent one, then you are hereby licensed to use
the following; bearing in mind that they usually work from packed call
centres, may be monitored, and are loth to hang up.
Caller; Hello. Is that Mr Cryer?
Ed; Yes.
Caller; Do you have the time to discuss?
Ed; Discuss what?
Caller; Well, how are things with you?
Ed; I'm being pestered by a stranger on the phone.
Caller; Ah, ah, well I represent ....
Ed; Ah, now I know what I'd like to talk about - Latin poetry. I'm on
book 12 of The Aeneid and having trouble with line 7.
Do you have a copy handy?
Caller; (Silence)
Ed; Well then, how would you translate "latronis"?
Caller; (Silence then something like a "uhh")
Ed; I think that.......
.......
.......
.......

Well now, thank you for your time. It's so good to find someone who's
into Augustan Latin poetry.
(Hangs up)
[The above subject can be replaced by the individual's personal interest
or hobby-horse]


Ed
 
R

Ray

After the session I notified HP of the phony site.
I have already changed my passwords, disputed the charge and stated my
reason for not paying even though it went through PayPal.
Things I realized were questionable as to the integrity of the site:-
They lowered their fee three times with no argument.
They lied about being an agent of HP and all other remote services.
The first two I talked to could not speak understandable English and the
supervisor was not much better when I asked to speak with someone who COULD
speak English.
They asked for a credit card number AFTER they had completed "servicing" my
PC. At which point I should have left the site.
My problem was that I wanted to get out of Facebook. It took at least two
hours of them messing around in my PC trying to delete Facebook when they
finally gave up. Later I learned that Facebook is a website and cannot be
deleted. That indicates that "pcHealth Station" is not very knowledgable. I
did eventually deactivate it and got a dialog asking if I wanted to
uninstall permanently, I chose YES and a dialog box told me that my account
would be cleared completely in 14 days. The reason for my stupidly
connecting with them is that I could not find a phone number for HP Remote
Service. I Googled HP Remote Service and got the number that scammed me.
End of story.
And change your credit card, unless you want to find your account cleaned
out. --
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
I have never had a problem with a dispute with my Visa sponsor so that
doesn't bother me.
 
R

Ray

"Ken Blake" wrote in message

For phone calls, Do I know you? No? Bye! If yes, when and how?
Wrong! Bye! Even it's from a legitimate bank or merchant for legitimate
business, but when they want to confirm my contact information at then
end, I would say: I haven't changed anything so check your computer for
account information. If I want to change anything, I'll go to your web
site or call your office.

In general, I'd spent as little time as possible with them,
You spend much more time on the phone with such callers than I do. As
soon as I realize that a caller is trying to sell me something, I hang
up.
With caller ID it's easy to recognize the phony ones. If it is one I am
doubtful about I let the message machine take it and they hang up. Most of
the time the caller is listed as UNKNOWN so I cancel it immediately.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

A friend of mine said he tells those cold callers that he died last week. I
tried this and it certainly stopped the caller!
Q
I really like that idea!
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

I don't think telling them that Quilljar's friend is dead will faze them
one bit.
If you're going to criticize, at least tell me how to fix the problem.

Disclaimer:
Is a smiley needed, or is it obvious that I'm playing along with you? I
ask because I am always getting in trouble with my poker face...
 
C

charlie

If you're going to criticize, at least tell me how to fix the problem.

Disclaimer:
Is a smiley needed, or is it obvious that I'm playing along with you? I
ask because I am always getting in trouble with my poker face...
On occasion, I simply said send the check for the fine to (government
address, US District Court), That usually stopped calls for a bit.
 

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