Can win startup login be eliminated?

[Dave Rudisill]

Thank you!

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Dave

"Alex Clayton" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

[ECLiPSE 2002]

Thanks Alex,

Your suggestion below did the trick - no longer get the username
locked box from either a cold startup or from Sleep mode.

Many thanks to you and other responders,

Mary

 

[Alex Clayton]

Thanks Alex,

Your suggestion below did the trick - no longer get the username
locked box from either a cold startup or from Sleep mode.

Many thanks to you and other responders,

Mary

Glad it worked. I am FAR from being anything approaching expert at this, but
since I started using a PC about 01, Usenet has been a lifesaver. Lot of
noise, but if you wade through it, you can normally find what you need.
When I first got a Win.7 machine this group made the switch easy.

 

[johnbee]

I would like to add a comment to this thread.

It is certainly true that users of Windows XP quite normally
ran the whole time with Administrator status. I won't give
my reasons why this was because it would provoke some to
argue that I am wrong. I am certainly not wrong about the
premise of my comment though: it is stated in Microsoft's
own publications.

Facilities setting up user accounts in Windows 7 are pretty
good, but it is nevertheless very often a blooming nuisance
running as a standard user. My guess is that in many
instances the users will demand to know an admin password.
Of course this will often be because software is not written
with Win 7 in mind - but since it won't last very long anyway this
state of affairs will continue. i.e. by the time most users have
worked out how to use it, Windows 7 will be on the point
of being replaced.

So users who say that a) they don't want to bother with a
password and b) they want to run as administrator the
whole time are in fact being perfectly reasonable and
that is how everybody was quite recently.

Of course this does not apply to people on a LAN with a
server and a PC each because the server will have decent
security measures set up, and this will be the case with
many business users. I don't know the proportions between
home and business use but I do know there are millions of
home computers and Microsoft have provided an operating
system that assumes that for home users parental control
is what is required.

 

[Gordon]

Facilities setting up user accounts in Windows 7 are pretty good, but it
is nevertheless very often a blooming nuisance running as a standard
user.

Eh? No it's not - unless the user is constantly fiddling with the machine
instead of doing work......

I run as a Standard User and have no "nuisances" at all.....

So users who say that a) they don't want to bother with a password and b)
they want to run as administrator the whole time are in fact being
perfectly reasonable and that is how everybody was quite recently.

But they have NO REGARD for security. It's not just THEIR security, it has a
knock-on effect on the whole network, and with the advent of large numbers
of people connecting permanently to broadband, the network becomes very very
large and that knock-on effect becomes very important.

 

[johnbee]

Eh? No it's not - unless the user is constantly fiddling with the machine
instead of doing work......

I run as a Standard User and have no "nuisances" at all.....

A standard user with a Yahoo email account is asked for an admin
password every time they access email. The settings have to be
tweaked to prevent it and the standard user can not do it. With
recommended settings, a standard user can not even arrange
their own start menu. I could go on quite a while with such
things.

But they have NO REGARD for security. It's not just THEIR security, it has
a knock-on effect on the whole network, and with the advent of large
numbers of people connecting permanently to broadband, the network becomes
very very large and that knock-on effect becomes very important.

You seem to be talking about users on a LAN, at work. I said why that was
a different situation, and also of course they will have an administrator
who enforces limited software usage, regular changing of secure passwords,
and so on.
You seem to think that, while most users under XP had admin
privilege, it has suddenly become crucially important that they don't..
Since
almost all software is not written with Windows 7 in mind, programs write
all sorts of stuff all over the place and this triggers off a password
demand.

Besides, if it actually mattered that much, the operating system would
ensure
that users are not hampered by security. For another thing, administrators
would be able to set passwords without mucking up users' encryption.

 

[Gordon]

A standard user with a Yahoo email account is asked for an admin
password every time they access email.

Nope - where do you get that from? If it's a free yahoo.com account then you
can only access it via a web browser where there's no permissions anyway -
if it's a paid-for account or a yahoo.uk account then you can access it via
an email client like any other POP email account. Still no "permissions"
problem.

You seem to be talking about users on a LAN, at work.

Nope - again a misunderstanding. ANYONE who accesses the internet via
always-on broadband is part of a very large network...constantly.