Attribution marks

[Bertie Doe]

When I was on OE, the posters' attribution marks were automatic. Now I'm
posting via livemail, I have to enter the (>>) att marks. Is there somewhere
in 'settings' I could change? Thanks.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

When I was on OE, the posters' attribution marks were automatic. Now I'm
posting via livemail, I have to enter the (>>) att marks. Is there
somewhere in 'settings' I could change? Thanks.

Windows Live Mail 2011? The indent marks are gone for good.

 

[Bertie Doe]

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message

When I was on OE, the posters' attribution marks were automatic. Now I'm
posting via livemail, I have to enter the (>>) att marks. Is there
somewhere in 'settings' I could change? Thanks.

Windows Live Mail 2011? The indent marks are gone for good.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA

Thanks Bruce - that's a pain.

Bertie

 

[relic]

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message





Windows Live Mail 2011? The indent marks are gone for good.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA

Thanks Bruce - that's a pain.

Bertie

Remove WLM2011 and install WLM version 14. Google.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Remove WLM2011 and install WLM version 14. Google.

That would be WLMail 2009. And, you can always hack in Windows Mail in
Win7. I use that for news and T-Bird for mail.

 

[Ken Blake]

Remove WLM2011 and install WLM version 14. Google.

Or (a much better choice, in my view) use an entirely different
newsgroup reader. For example, I greatly prefer Forte Agent.

 

[Nil]

Windows Live Mail 2011? The indent marks are gone for good.

I'm hoping the quote indicators aren't "gone for good", but just broken
in the latest release, and that they will be fixed later. Hasn't
happened yet, though, and it's been a couple of months.

 

[Stan Brown]

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message





Windows Live Mail 2011? The indent marks are gone for good. =================================================
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA =================================================

Thanks Bruce - that's a pain.

Please either choose a different newsreader or add them yourself.
When you post without them, it quickly becomes impossible to follow a
thread and know who said what.

In any event, please remember to trim your quotes. At a minimum,
that means removing signatures (like the one above).

 

[Bertie Doe]

"Nil" wrote in message
"Ken Blake" wrote in message news

Remove WLM2011 and install WLM version 14. Google.

I'm hoping the quote indicators aren't "gone for good", but just broken
in the latest release, and that they will be fixed later. Hasn't
happened yet, though, and it's been a couple of months.

Thanks Nil, I'll give it a couple of months, if it's not fixed, I'll follow
Ken's suggestion of 'Forte Agent'

 

[Bertie Doe]

"Stan Brown" wrote in message

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message





Windows Live Mail 2011? The indent marks are gone for good. =================================================
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA =================================================

Thanks Bruce - that's a pain.

Please either choose a different newsreader or add them yourself.
When you post without them, it quickly becomes impossible to follow a
thread and know who said what.

In any event, please remember to trim your quotes. At a minimum,
that means removing signatures (like the one above).

Stan, your sermon might have more impact if, at a minimum, you shortened
your signature AND removed the spam.

 

[Bob Henson]

Bertie Doe wrote:

Thanks Nil, I'll give it a couple of months, if it's not fixed, I'll follow
Ken's suggestion of 'Forte Agent'

I'd switch anyway, Bertie. It has many other problems apart from the quote
marks - not the least is that it doesn't handle signature markers
correctly, resulting in even more difficulty reading message written by it.
As it doesn't add quote marks, the whole of any reply to a message with a
signature effectively becomes part of the previous poster's signature. That
usually means it is shown very faintly or stripped out altogether
(depending on the reader's settings) , so your message probably won't get
read at all. The longer any thread which was started by, or contains
messages written by, WLM gets, the worse the mess gets. Some people have
started setting up rules to delete all messages written by WLM, so great is
the hassle it causes.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

That would be WLMail 2009. And, you can always hack in Windows Mail
in Win7. I use that for news and T-Bird for mail.

I use T-Bird (2) for both mail and news in Win7. Why do you prefer
Windows Mail for news? (I've never used Windows Mail because I never
used Vista.)

 

[Paul]

"Nil" wrote in message
"Ken Blake" wrote in message news



Thanks Nil, I'll give it a couple of months, if it's not fixed, I'll
follow Ken's suggestion of 'Forte Agent'

If you want to experiment, in a way that is independent of your current
setup, you can install a new newsreader, and practice on aioe.org .
It doesn't have an authentication system, works on the standard port,
and accepts around 25 posts per day. Use the alt.test group on there, to
send, to reply to yourself, check what happens when a signature is present
and so on. And then, go into your current tool, and read the messages
you just posted, and see how they appear. That way, you won't lose
your ability to use WLM, while you investigate a new newsreader.

Port details (119 plaintext is good enough).

http://www.aioe.org/

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

HTH,
Paul

 

[Bruce Hagen]

I use T-Bird (2) for both mail and news in Win7. Why do you prefer
Windows Mail for news? (I've never used Windows Mail because I never
used Vista.)
--
Crash

"It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory."
~ W. Edwards Deming ~

I used OE for years. When I got this Win7 machine, I didn't care for
WLMail for news. (It was barely tolerable for mail). You don't need Vista,
just a file from it. I had been thinking about using a different
newsreader for some time, (Like Agent or Gravity, etc.), but as MS dropped
its news server, 99% of my posting is in forums now, so a newsreader is
pretty much a moot point. Plus, I don't want the same program for news and
mail.

<Canned> (Using WinMail in Win7).

First, you need access to a Vista machine.

On the Win7 machine, find the "Windows Mail" folder in Program Files.
Rename it to "OldWindows Mail" as a precaution.

Using a Flash or CD, copy the "Windows Mail" folder in its entirety from
the Vista machine.

Go back to the Win7 machine and copy the "Windows Mail" from the Flash or
CD to a location in Program Files.

Open it and right click on the WinMail.exe file and send a shortcut to the
Desktop. Done.

Also see:
http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/191729-enabling-windows-mail-windows-7-a.html

 

[Uncle Max]

What does everyone think about this?

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html

 

[Bruce Hagen]

What does everyone think about this?

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html

I think that's what I posted about.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

I used OE for years. When I got this Win7 machine, I didn't care for
WLMail for news. (It was barely tolerable for mail). You don't need
Vista, just a file from it. I had been thinking about using a
different newsreader for some time, (Like Agent or Gravity, etc.),
but as MS dropped its news server, 99% of my posting is in forums
now, so a newsreader is pretty much a moot point. Plus, I don't want
the same program for news and mail.

<Canned> (Using WinMail in Win7).

First, you need access to a Vista machine.

On the Win7 machine, find the "Windows Mail" folder in Program Files.
Rename it to "OldWindows Mail" as a precaution.

Using a Flash or CD, copy the "Windows Mail" folder in its entirety
from the Vista machine.

Go back to the Win7 machine and copy the "Windows Mail" from the
Flash or CD to a location in Program Files.

Open it and right click on the WinMail.exe file and send a shortcut
to the Desktop. Done.

Also see:
http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/191729-enabling-windows-mail-windows-7-a.html

Thank you, but that wasn't my question. I also went looking for a
replacement for OE when I moved from W2K to Windows 7. I settled on
T-Bird 2 as a replacement for both mail and news. What I want to know,
since you are also using T-Bird for mail, why are you using WM for news
instead of T-Bird?

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Thank you, but that wasn't my question. I also went looking for a
replacement for OE when I moved from W2K to Windows 7. I settled on
T-Bird 2 as a replacement for both mail and news. What I want to know,
since you are also using T-Bird for mail, why are you using WM for news
instead of T-Bird?

Crash

"Something there is that doesn't love a wall, that wants it down."
~ Robert Frost ~

My last sentence said it. "Plus, I don't want the same program for news
and mail".

 

[Bertie Doe]

"Paul" wrote in message

"Nil" wrote in message
"Ken Blake" wrote in message news



Thanks Nil, I'll give it a couple of months, if it's not fixed, I'll
follow Ken's suggestion of 'Forte Agent'

If you want to experiment, in a way that is independent of your current
setup, you can install a new newsreader, and practice on aioe.org .
It doesn't have an authentication system, works on the standard port,
and accepts around 25 posts per day. Use the alt.test group on there, to
send, to reply to yourself, check what happens when a signature is present
and so on. And then, go into your current tool, and read the messages
you just posted, and see how they appear. That way, you won't lose
your ability to use WLM, while you investigate a new newsreader.

Port details (119 plaintext is good enough).

http://www.aioe.org/

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

HTH,
Paul

Agh thanks Paul, if it's free I'll have it. I've just installed aioe.org,
but as you see, it has the same problem as those I post via news.individual.

Bertie

 

[Bertie Doe]

"Bob Henson" wrote in message

Bertie Doe wrote:

Thanks Nil, I'll give it a couple of months, if it's not fixed, I'll
follow
Ken's suggestion of 'Forte Agent'

I'd switch anyway, Bertie. It has many other problems apart from the quote
marks - not the least is that it doesn't handle signature markers
correctly, resulting in even more difficulty reading message written by it.
As it doesn't add quote marks, the whole of any reply to a message with a
signature effectively becomes part of the previous poster's signature. That
usually means it is shown very faintly or stripped out altogether
(depending on the reader's settings) , so your message probably won't get
read at all. The longer any thread which was started by, or contains

messages written by, WLM gets, the worse the mess gets. Some people have
started setting up rules to delete all messages written by WLM, so great is
the hassle it causes.

Yes I think you're right Bob. I believe Forte Agent is about $30 - is this a
one-off payment?
Bertie