AOL Dialup & Windows 7

[chrisv]

I read multiple groups and haven't found that to be the case.

*PLONK*

 

[chrisv]

Nope, sorry,

Fsck you arsehole troll!
*plonk*

 

[iGeek]

Gday mate.

If the Win7 box in question has USB ports on the front, you could
download the AOL software via your own internet connection, copy it to a
flash drive and copy it from there to the chosen machine.

Then install AOL and try to connect using the dialup modem built into
the computer (or an external one if that is connected).

Should be able to solve your worries and gain you one happy user.

iGeek

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Showing my ignorance here, but I didn't know Sun had their own version
of Thunderbird, or that they had any kind of Mozilla project at all.
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091118)

What I find most odd, though, is that while you said bettablue's post
came through properly formatted for you, when you replied to it the
formatting got all messed up again, so the fixes were apparently only
local to you and not preserved for follow-ups.

Or perhaps GreyCloud isn't sure what we're on about...

 

[Char Jackson]

Or perhaps GreyCloud isn't sure what we're on about...

I strongly suspect that's the case.

 

[GreyCloud]

Showing my ignorance here, but I didn't know Sun had their own version
of Thunderbird, or that they had any kind of Mozilla project at all.
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091118)

Sun was always involved. They had to, otherwise their customers
wouldn't have
these programs at all. A few years ago, Sun had to fix a security
problem in their
Mozilla web browser and supplied a patch for it. There were a few
mentions about it
in the Unix newsgroups about it.

What I find most odd, though, is that while you said bettablue's post
came through properly formatted for you, when you replied to it the
formatting got all messed up again, so the fixes were apparently only
local to you and not preserved for follow-ups.

Or, most likely, Thunderbird just passed on what it didn't need to
correct for others viewing.
Hard to say on that point... or that your newsreader doesn't catch all
the variations that it
should.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Sun was always involved. They had to, otherwise their customers
wouldn't have
these programs at all. A few years ago, Sun had to fix a security
problem in their
Mozilla web browser and supplied a patch for it. There were a few
mentions about it
in the Unix newsgroups about it.


Or, most likely, Thunderbird just passed on what it didn't need to
correct for others viewing.
Hard to say on that point... or that your newsreader doesn't catch all
the variations that it
should.

Newsreaders don't "catch all the variations". They display text (outside
of binary groups).

 

[Char Jackson]

Newsreaders don't "catch all the variations". They display text (outside
of binary groups).

I'm not buying what he's selling...

 

[GreyCloud]

I'm not buying what he's selling...

It really doesn't matter... otherwise, why would I say that I find the
post most readable?
But whether you believe it or not, sun did make sure that Mozilla (and
Thunderbird) conformed
to their requirments before selling their os package. Acutally, one
could've downloaded all of
the packages free, but then you also have to know how to install them
individually which isn't
an easy task. Much better to just buy the dvd set from Sun and let the
scripts do their job.
Which on this old box, no more Sun but Oracle. And I never did trust
Oracle. So I'm now trying
to read about all the gotchas of Win7 on this newsgroup and any other
place that may have news.
Not sure which brand of PC to purchase tho. My main concern is
reliability of the hardware.
This old sun is over 12 years old and still going strong, but no os
updates unless you pay a fortune.

 

[Char Jackson]

It really doesn't matter... otherwise, why would I say that I find the
post most readable?

First, my complaint was that bettablue's post was formatted extremely
poorly, mostly because of her choice of newsreader and her own lack of
desire to do better. Whether you found it readable or not wasn't
really the question.

Second, as for your question of why you would say you found her post
readable, my best guess is that you may not how a properly formatted
post should look. There are other possibilities, but none are very
flattering.

But whether you believe it or not, sun did make sure that Mozilla (and
Thunderbird) conformed
to their requirments before selling their os package.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I'm fairly sure it has
nothing to do with this thread. If you seriously believe your special
customized-by-Sun version of Thunderbird was able to clean up a
malformatted WLM 15 post, then by all means take a screen capture and
post a link. I'd love to see it.

 

[Roy Smith]

That's odd... his post comes in well formatted here.

Well you're not seeing the whole post as Agent does what a proper
newsreader does and clips text after a signature delimiter. Here's the
entire post with the signature delimiter munged and then you'll understand:

[..Beginning of post...]

"Stan Brown" wrote in message

So they need to install the AOL 9.6 software on the W7 machine.
However, they need to connect in order to download the software.
But - and here's the Catch-22 part - the Windows 7 dialup
connection will not support the AOL access number/username/password
combination. "Error 691".

(Please set a reasonable line length.)

I think all they have to do is wait: AOL disks keep turning up all
over. Or they could call AOL and ask for a disk. Or you could
download the software for them, burn a disk, and mail it to them.



*-*-*
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...


Bettablue Writes:

Hmmm. I haven't seen an AOL disk in a couple of years. Do they still send
those out in the mail?


**Support our 2nd Amendment Rights!**
Because, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

[...End of post...]

So as you can see here, you were not even seeing Bettablue's comments...


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Portable Thunderbird 3.1.7
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:54:19 PM

 

[GreyCloud]

First, my complaint was that bettablue's post was formatted extremely
poorly, mostly because of her choice of newsreader and her own lack of
desire to do better. Whether you found it readable or not wasn't
really the question.

Second, as for your question of why you would say you found her post
readable, my best guess is that you may not how a properly formatted
post should look. There are other possibilities, but none are very
flattering.

heh... I've been around on usenet for a very long time. I'm quite sure
I know
what a properly formatted post looks like.
It is most likely incompatibilities between various versions of
microsoft newsreader
programs. You said that the blues post was not formatted properly. I
found it was
properly formatted on this newsreader. Can I help it if Microsoft can't
stay consistent?

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I'm fairly sure it has
nothing to do with this thread. If you seriously believe your special
customized-by-Sun version of Thunderbird was able to clean up a
malformatted WLM 15 post, then by all means take a screen capture and
post a link. I'd love to see it.

Wished I could.
Sun doesn't make it easy to do, if at all. See why I'm looking for
another machine?

 

[GreyCloud]

That's odd... his post comes in well formatted here.

Well you're not seeing the whole post as Agent does what a proper
newsreader does and clips text after a signature delimiter. Here's the
entire post with the signature delimiter munged and then you'll understand:

[..Beginning of post...]

"Stan Brown" wrote in message

So they need to install the AOL 9.6 software on the W7 machine.
However, they need to connect in order to download the software.
But - and here's the Catch-22 part - the Windows 7 dialup
connection will not support the AOL access number/username/password
combination. "Error 691".

(Please set a reasonable line length.)

I think all they have to do is wait: AOL disks keep turning up all
over. Or they could call AOL and ask for a disk. Or you could
download the software for them, burn a disk, and mail it to them.



*-*-*
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...


Bettablue Writes:

Hmmm. I haven't seen an AOL disk in a couple of years. Do they still send
those out in the mail?


**Support our 2nd Amendment Rights!**
Because, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

[...End of post...]

So as you can see here, you were not even seeing Bettablue's comments...

All it shows is that his sig line is a bit excessive in length, but not
his post or actual comments.
According to usenet etiquette, four lines should suffice. But the
newsreader formatting is
proper as my newsreader presents it... and that is all I'm commenting about.

 

[Char Jackson]

Char Jackson wrote:
"Stan Brown" wrote in message

On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:43:30 -0600, BobbyZ wrote:
So they need to install the AOL 9.6 software on the W7 machine.
However, they need to connect in order to download the software.
But - and here's the Catch-22 part - the Windows 7 dialup
connection will not support the AOL access number/username/password
combination. "Error 691".
(Please set a reasonable line length.)

I think all they have to do is wait: AOL disks keep turning up all
over. Or they could call AOL and ask for a disk. Or you could
download the software for them, burn a disk, and mail it to them.



--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...


Bettablue Writes:

Hmmm. I haven't seen an AOL disk in a couple of years. Do they
still send those out in the mail?


**Support our 2nd Amendment Rights!**
Because, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell
In case it's not obvious to you, (I can assure you that it's obvious
to the rest of us), your posting style is a complete mess.

Your newsreader didn't properly attribute the post to which you
replied.
Your newsreader didn't properly quote the post to which you replied.
Your newsreader didn't trim the previous poster's sig.
Your newsreader didn't properly add a sig delimiter.

Is the junk at the end of your post part of the post itself, or is it
supposed to be sig delimited? My head hurts...

That's odd... his post comes in well formatted here.

Well you're not seeing the whole post as Agent does what a proper
newsreader does and clips text after a signature delimiter. Here's the
entire post with the signature delimiter munged and then you'll understand:

[..Beginning of post...]

"Stan Brown" wrote in message

So they need to install the AOL 9.6 software on the W7 machine.
However, they need to connect in order to download the software.
But - and here's the Catch-22 part - the Windows 7 dialup
connection will not support the AOL access number/username/password
combination. "Error 691".

(Please set a reasonable line length.)

I think all they have to do is wait: AOL disks keep turning up all
over. Or they could call AOL and ask for a disk. Or you could
download the software for them, burn a disk, and mail it to them.



*-*-*
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...


Bettablue Writes:

Hmmm. I haven't seen an AOL disk in a couple of years. Do they still send
those out in the mail?


**Support our 2nd Amendment Rights!**
Because, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

[...End of post...]

So as you can see here, you were not even seeing Bettablue's comments...

All it shows is that his sig line is a bit excessive in length, but not
his post or actual comments.
According to usenet etiquette, four lines should suffice. But the
newsreader formatting is
proper as my newsreader presents it... and that is all I'm commenting about.

You're so confused. The sig line you're talking about contains the
entire contribution from bettablue. Everything above that is from the
previous poster. I guess your newsreader isn't doing such a good job,
after all.

 

[Char Jackson]

heh... I've been around on usenet for a very long time. I'm quite sure
I know
what a properly formatted post looks like.
It is most likely incompatibilities between various versions of
microsoft newsreader
programs.

You don't have to guess at the problem since several of us have
already clearly pointed it out. The problem is WLM 15.

BTW, your newsreader seems to have a minor issue with line wrapping.

You said that the blues post was not formatted properly. I
found it was
properly formatted on this newsreader.

It's a safe bet you didn't even see it, or at the very least you
didn't understand what you were seeing. It's easy to say there wasn't
a problem when your newsreader hid most of the problems, (along with
the entire new post!), from your view.

Can I help it if Microsoft can't stay consistent?

No, but it's not helpful to deny the problem.

See why I'm looking for another machine?

No, but I'm sure you have your reasons. Good luck in your search.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

You don't have to guess at the problem since several of us have
already clearly pointed it out. The problem is WLM 15.

BTW, your newsreader seems to have a minor issue with line wrapping.

I think he presses return when he's at the end of what he thinks is a
line.

That plus his comments about WLM make an interesting juxtaposition with
his first sentence in the part I quoted above.

I really don't like to get into ad hominem, but on occasion it seems
unavoidable :-(

OT: I mistyped "hominem" as "hominen" above, and my spell checker
suggested "hominy". Should I have accepted it?

 

[Char Jackson]

I think he presses return when he's at the end of what he thinks is a
line.

That plus his comments about WLM make an interesting juxtaposition with
his first sentence in the part I quoted above.

Looking back, you might be right. It does look like there are hard
returns in there.

I really don't like to get into ad hominem, but on occasion it seems
unavoidable :-(

OT: I mistyped "hominem" as "hominen" above, and my spell checker
suggested "hominy". Should I have accepted it?

Well, hominy is used to make grits, and this is somewhat of a gritty
situation, so it's somewhat appropriate.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Well, hominy is used to make grits, and this is somewhat of a gritty
situation, so it's somewhat appropriate.

LOL.

And thanks: to paraphrase what you said to Ken Blake, you too bring the
voice of reason to this gritty situation.

 

[Char Jackson]

LOL.

And thanks: to paraphrase what you said to Ken Blake, you too bring the
voice of reason to this gritty situation.

Thanks, same to you. I have periods where I try to be helpful, but
then I slip back into being grouchy for a time. Some of y'all are much
more consistent than I am.

 

[GreyCloud]

You don't have to guess at the problem since several of us have
already clearly pointed it out. The problem is WLM 15.

BTW, your newsreader seems to have a minor issue with line wrapping.

That is just me. A lot of times I hit the enter key, forgetting that I
don't need to do this.

It's a safe bet you didn't even see it, or at the very least you
didn't understand what you were seeing. It's easy to say there wasn't
a problem when your newsreader hid most of the problems, (along with
the entire new post!), from your view.

How can I deny that there is a problem that I cannot view or see on this
newsreader?

No, but it's not helpful to deny the problem.


No, but I'm sure you have your reasons. Good luck in your search.

The reason is the costly support for one year. Around $500... and I can
buy a new PC each year for that cost.